Save Uah Hockey!

[MikeAnderson]

Re: Save Uah Hockey!

Something else that would be cool...especially if some CCHA schools were willing to pull it off:

A small patch, say 1.5" tall by 1" wide, of blue fabric on the front of jerseys from the other schools. A show of solidarity, as it were.

Just a blue square.

We would know what they mean.

[Beer Pong Horn]

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I would pay good money to see "Save UAH Hockey" buttons on a BSU student section as it chants "Who Hates Huntsville!!!" Even more if the buttons were on BSU jerseys.

The juxtaposition would just be...delicious.

May I suggest a slight edit for this season?

Who Hates Huntsville?
Anastos Hates Huntsville!

[wnickelson]

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May I suggest a slight edit for this season?

Who Hates Huntsville?
Anastos Hates Huntsville!

That idea keeps getting thrown my way, but the way I see it Anastos didn't have a dog in that fight (even if it was his house), so it's unfair to single him out. Better to vilify the body as a whole than singling out any one person that may or may not have been on our side. (Of course we could single people out if they didn't hide behind the vote by acclimation.)

The blue square on the sweaters is a nice idea, but I'd settle for a shot of willing ADs wearing a "Save UAH Hockey" button.

[joecct]

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I guess that I wasn't clear. It isn't the monetary aspect, it's the academic clout that the Ivies have. The RPI administation, for example, likes being mentioned in the same sentence as Harvard, Yale et al.

What about Clarkson?? You're with us in all sports and just in one with those stinkin' Ivies.

Has this thread been hijacked?

[wnickelson]

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Again: Biscuits? I don't get it.

The biscuits routine came about while I was jotting down slogan ideas for the merch. I've got a list of them, but once I came across Danny Martin's follow on piece where he spoke with Forrest Karr, inspiration struck.

CCHA will miss out on Southern 'sugar' and biscuits

A native of Tishomingo, MS, Mr. Martin was lamenting on how he was hoping to come home to some of his momma's biscuits. It just kind of took off from there. Seemed clever enough. Alternately, and I may offer them as well, was "The CCHA Hates Grits" and "We Want Grits."

[Larch]

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Alternately, and I may offer them as well, was "The CCHA Hates Grits" and "We Want Grits."

I don't think that's works though, only people in the south like grits, where many of us do like biscuits.

[ScoobyFanClub]

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See, I agree with this. I've been saying this to lots of people: if we were a perfect fit for the CCHA, they would've taken us. We weren't, and they didn't.

That said, Adam Wodon's been writing about our impending demise for some time now.

GFM

Do you have any citations that would prove that this is something he was happy about? Or was it just being written as a statement of unfortunate possibility?

[ScoobyFanClub]

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Why was UNO, who let us not forget, left the CCHA without even a second thought, so crucial to the CCHA? Why is it okay to cry foul at the WCHA when one of its own members was so eager to leave?

From what I've read, the CCHA people were upset at the WCHA - not for doing what they did in taking UNO -- but by doing so and claiming that it was for the "good of college hockey" -- while really, it was just to make their own league stronger. It wasn't for the "good of college hockey" to take UNO. Sure, it helped Bemidji out - but if the WCHA were purely just trying to help college hockey, there were numerous other things it could've done that wouldn't have been as damaging to the CCHA.

The bottom line again is, the WCHA, UNO, CCHA, etc... all did what was best for them at the time they did it. Or at least what they think is sincerely best for them. Let's not try to make ANYONE seem more noble than anyone else. This is where the defense of the CCHA comes in. Me, and lots of other people, wished the CCHA would take UAH - and don't want to see UAH disappear ... we are merely defending the CCHA from attacks that aren't fair.

Relying upon matters of fairness on this issue only pinpoints the fact that the CCHA was so utterly unprepared to deal with this eventuality that they deserve to be found culpable.

I don't understand this paragraph at all? So, it's not OK to point out the unfairness of vilifying the CCHA for making a decision in its own best interests - just like everyone else has? And in what way was the CCHA supposed to be prepared?

All of these statements put out by Weston and the CCHA are ambiguous double-speak that fail to properly explain the CCHA's decison.

From the articles I've read - not necessarily here, but elsewhere - the decision seems pretty well explained. Even if you don't agree with it. What else are you looking for? Some Bowling Green/Save Ferris conspiracy theory? Maybe that's not part of the explanation because that's not part of the reason. What else do you want? Look at Wodon's column - he touches on the Big Ten stuff, but only briefly. Mentions many other reasons. A simple matter of economics for the CCHA - and its members that are worried, for various reasons, about those economics. There is nothing more to understand than that.

I can even accept that it is the CCHA's right to make decisions as it pleases. But please do NOT think that shifting blame to the WCHA for this problem is a "fair" and acceptable way to shift responsibility for the CCHA's actions. That's like saying: Alan pushed Bob, so Bob punched Chris in the face. Defending the CCHA's decision on a matter of relative fairness (which seems to be the overwhelming consensus approach from writers like Weston and Wodon) is a losing battle. In fact, on a matter of fairness, the CCHA deserves to be vilified.

I don't see it that way at all. I don't think anyone I saw has shifted blame to the WCHA. I think it was made pretty clear that there is no bad guy at all. The decision just is what it is. Please show me where blame was attempted to be shifted to anyone else? Defending the CCHA from being attacked for acting in its own best interests, by pointing out how others have done the same, is NOT a "shifting of blame."

In the end, the only real loser here is UAH. So why don't you ask UAH if that's fair?

It totally sucks for UAH, and I and everyone I know sympathizes with them wholeheartedly. I wish they were playing in the CCHA next season. But that does not mean I will attack the CCHA as villains for their decision.

[Goon]

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Again: Biscuits? I don't get it.

They like Gravy and Biscuits for breakfast in the south?
That was one way you could look at it.

[gfmorris]

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Do you have any citations that would prove that this is something he was happy about? Or was it just being written as a statement of unfortunate possibility?

Who needs citations?! This is a message board.

GFM

[ScoobyDoo]

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From what I've read, the CCHA people were upset at the WCHA - not for doing what they did in taking UNO -- but by doing so and claiming that it was for the "good of college hockey" -- while really, it was just to make their own league stronger. It wasn't for the "good of college hockey" to take UNO. Sure, it helped Bemidji out - but if the WCHA were purely just trying to help college hockey, there were numerous other things it could've done that wouldn't have been as damaging to the CCHA.

Bemidji would not be in the WCHA today if there was another league for them to fit into. Period. The WCHA was stable as it was and had no intention of expanding.

And, there is no other league for UAH to fit into right now except the CCHA.

The WCHA did something about the issue, the CCHA did not. You can argue in every thread on the board till your blue in the face and it won't change those simple facts.

[vizoroo]

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Bemidji would not be in the WCHA today if there was another league for them to fit into. Period. The WCHA was stable as it was and had no intention of expanding.

And, there is no other league for UAH to fit into right now except the CCHA.

The WCHA did something about the issue, the CCHA did not. You can argue in every thread on the board till your blue in the face and it won't change those simple facts.

I must agree with Scooby which probably won't happen again once the season begins

[PCM]

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I must agree with Scooby which probably won't happen again once the season begins

Same here. Now watch Scooby change his position just because I agree with it.

[ScoobyDoo]

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Same here. Now watch Scooby change his position just because I agree with it.

Nope.

[SCSU Euro]

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Bemidji would not be in the WCHA today if there was another league for them to fit into. Period. The WCHA was stable as it was and had no intention of expanding.

And, there is no other league for UAH to fit into right now except the CCHA.

The WCHA did something about the issue, the CCHA did not. You can argue in every thread on the board till your blue in the face and it won't change those simple facts.

Scooby's Fan getting schooled by Scooby... its like the student getting out of line and then getting *****-slapped by the master.... i like it