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    Going out (way out?) on a limb time: USA defeats Canada 4-3.

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      Originally posted by jnacc View Post
      The game is not selling so well in the sun belt is a gross under statement so it's only a matter of (a short) time before the Peg and Quebec get NHL teams back. I think you'll also see another team in the Toronto region as well.....heck maybe even two more teams there.

      As for U.S. vs Canada....no doubt that the U.S. is the huge under-dog and they will have to have a ton of puck luck to win but hey anything is possible in a single game.
      The NHL game is having a hard time selling out even in hockey markets like New York and Michigan.
      Originally posted by Pablo View Post
      Thanks. Apparently no defense in this tournament!
      It is an all star tourney. There is no such thing as defense.
      Originally posted by Goon View Post
      The WJC that was in Grand Forks, ND in 2005 was crazy and a lot of fun, it was well attended because of the close distance to Winnipeg. I had never heard the Ralph so loud as it was for the Canada and Russia game. I had someone try to tell me that Holy Cross and Minnesota was louder but that isn't true.

      I was told that Ralph sold more beer during the tourney than it did for a season of Fighting Sioux hockey.
      I have to agree with your buddy the Holy Cross vs. Minnesota game was the loudest game in the Ralph's history. Nothing even comes close.

      Originally posted by Puck Swami View Post
      Minnesota hosted this event back in 1982 and no one came. To be fair, the tourney has grown quite a bit since then, and perhaps it's time to look at Minnesota again as a possible host. Besides the big arenas in the twin cities, I think it would also be cool to spread some of the lesser games around the state so the small towns could be a part of this, too.

      One of my best memories was at the 1991 World Journey in Saskatchewan, where some games were played in small towns like Humboldt, Prince Albert, and North Battleford. It was amazing how these small towns would totally sell out the local rinks, and the games were such a big deal.
      I bet the game back in 82 wasn't even marketed properly to Minnesotans. In fact that is a long time ago and even in the state of hockey the game has grown a lot.
      Originally posted by Puck Swami View Post
      Most Canadians have played the game - it defines who they are and how they get through the difficult long winters.
      This statement is true of Minnesotans.


      Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
      I parsed your post for space, but I agreed with everything you said you just did a much better job of articulating my perception that the Canadian kids take the game against the US far more seriously and to heart. It would be nice though to see the US kids pick up on that and respond as much as they can in kind.
      I agree 100%. I also believe all the college kids playing in this tourney would rather win a NCAA title instead of a gold medal.
      Slap Shot - 444 might want to consider a restraining order.
      dggoddard - Minnesota is THE ELITE Program in all of college hockey.
      wasmania - you have to be the very best to get ice time with the great gophers!

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        I also believe all the college kids playing in this tourney would rather win a NCAA title instead of a gold medal.
        Hardly! Maybe if there from the Minny prep ranks but there is no way that a player who went through the NTDP would place a college title over this tournament.

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          Originally posted by 4four4 View Post
          I have to agree with your buddy the Holy Cross vs. Minnesota game was the loudest game in the Ralph's history. Nothing even comes close...
          I was at both games and the Ralph was louder for the Russia and Canada game.
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            Originally posted by 4four4 View Post
            I have to agree with your buddy the Holy Cross vs. Minnesota game was the loudest game in the Ralph's history. Nothing even comes close.
            Were you at either game?
            How about the DU/UND 1st round playoff games where DU won the 1st game and then UND won the next two games, both in OT? It was darn loud for those two as well.
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              Originally posted by HarleyMC View Post
              Going out (way out?) on a limb time: USA defeats Canada 4-3.
              I'm going to go with a "Dirty" type quote:

              Canada - 3

              USA - 275

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                Originally posted by redwing77 View Post
                I'm going to go with a "Dirty" type quote:

                Canada - 3

                USA - 275

                Dirty wouldn't say that.
                He'd say:

                USA Sweeps
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                  Originally posted by redwing77 View Post
                  I'm going to go with a "Dirty" type quote:

                  Canada - 3

                  USA - 275

                  But are we playing with regular Ditka or mini Ditka?
                  This space for sale.

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                    Originally posted by 4four4 View Post
                    It is an all star tourney. There is no such thing as defense.
                    Other people have pointed out the fallacy of several of your other statements, but wanted to point out that this one is also very incorrect. Are you actually watching any games or just spouting off after seeing a box score?



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                      Originally posted by mwade View Post
                      Other people have pointed out the fallacy of several of your other statements, but wanted to point out that this one is also very incorrect. Are you actually watching any games or just spouting off after seeing a box score?
                      I'll give ya a clue, he has a liquor license. He can buy lots of it very cheap and consume it in large quantities with very little effort.

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                        is todays game on any other network then the nhl network?

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                          Originally posted by gofishingtom View Post
                          is todays game on any other network then the nhl network?
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                            Originally posted by jnacc View Post
                            Hardly! Maybe if there from the Minny prep ranks but there is no way that a player who went through the NTDP would place a college title over this tournament.
                            I have to disagree. For example, I will bet most NHL players would rather win a Stanley Cup over an Olympic Gold medal.

                            Originally posted by Goon View Post
                            I was at both games and the Ralph was louder for the Russia and Canada game.
                            See below.

                            Originally posted by brianvf View Post
                            Were you at either game?
                            How about the DU/UND 1st round playoff games where DU won the 1st game and then UND won the next two games, both in OT? It was darn loud for those two as well.
                            Nope. Only the Gophers.

                            Originally posted by mwade View Post
                            Other people have pointed out the fallacy of several of your other statements, but wanted to point out that this one is also very incorrect. Are you actually watching any games or just spouting off after seeing a box score?
                            I am sorry I will have to disagree. IMO, the only time teams in tourneys like the WJC is when they get to the semi-finals and finals. When the game is on the line that is when players start playing defense.

                            Originally posted by HarleyMC View Post
                            I'll give ya a clue, he has a liquor license. He can buy lots of it very cheap and consume it in large quantities with very little effort.
                            Slap Shot - 444 might want to consider a restraining order.
                            dggoddard - Minnesota is THE ELITE Program in all of college hockey.
                            wasmania - you have to be the very best to get ice time with the great gophers!

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                              The Stanley Cup and NCAA title are club championships that are really earned over the course of a long season and grinding playoffs. You win those for your teammates, your home fans and yourself. They have value because of the long sustained effort required to attain them over 6-8 months.

                              The Olympics and WJC are world championships, and while the effort required to attain them takes far less time, the idea of having a sanctioned medal that sees you crowned as the best in the world while wearing your country's name on your chest is tremendously appealing for any athlete and for their whole country.

                              I think the answer is not very clear-cut. Each athlete may value different things...

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                              • Neal Broten has won just about everything you can win but he regrets not winning the HS championship. Someone with a better memory than I can probably recall which title he found most special (I swear he stated it) but Swami is right I don't think there's a definitive favorite across the board.

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