Ice Breaker Tournament: Clarkson vs. New Hampshire & Mercyhurst vs. Minnesota

[Bonin21]

Re: Ice Breaker Tournament: Clarkson vs. New Hampshire & Mercyhurst vs. Minnesota

Let’s assume Brodzinski and Bischoff absorb the scoring loss on D and speculate their combined season effort yields a generous estimate of 44 pts. total.

If this happens, I'll give you an internet dollar.

[HarleyMC]

Re: Ice Breaker Tournament: Clarkson vs. New Hampshire & Mercyhurst vs. Minnesota

I'll take the bet that at least one of our freshmen get to 25 pts this season. In fact, I'll take the bet that at least two do.

And I already posted a link to my thoughts on replacing scoring (including the numbers I think the freshmen will put up) in my season preview. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

I never bet against the Gophers doing the impossible under any circumstances. I took a look at your blog. This isn't a slam on you personally, but your analysis is not based upon critical inferential statistical principles and is essentially invalid.

If this happens, I'll give you an internet dollar.

High roller heh? You must be one of those guys that goes to a casino just to watch. Don't hold your breath, it's highly unlikely.

[mnstate0fhockey]

I never bet against the Gophers doing the impossible under any circumstances. I took a look at your blog. This isn't a slam on you personally, but your analysis is not based upon critical inferential statistical principles and is essentially invalid.

Not a slam on you personally, but I think the analysis is as "valid" as anything you've offered. And that's admitting that my opinions are nothing but speculation.

[HarleyMC]

Re: Ice Breaker Tournament: Clarkson vs. New Hampshire & Mercyhurst vs. Minnesota

Not a slam on you personally, but I think the analysis is as "valid" as anything you've offered. And that's admitting that my opinions are nothing but wild speculation.

I haven't offered anything here that even remotely represents inferential statistical analysis or "projections" as you have in your blog. Trust me, you're in over your head...you can't perform statistical analysis in the way you've done so in your blog, even if it's just speculation...it's statistical rubbish. Freshman putting up more points than Bjugs, Budish, and Schmidt last season? FYP.

[mnstate0fhockey]

I haven't offered anything here...

Exactly, you haven't really offered much of anything of substance. As for the rest of your post..... Blah, blah, blah.

We can agree to disagree. This discussion became a bore long ago. We'll see where this team ends up, then we can compare notes. Until then, it's all just speculation.

And FYI - I didn't predict that either of the freshman defenders would put up as many points as Schmidt did last season. Guess you didn't "read" what I wrote that closely

[HarleyMC]

Re: Ice Breaker Tournament: Clarkson vs. New Hampshire & Mercyhurst vs. Minnesota

Exactly, you haven't really offered much of anything of substance. As for the rest of your post..... Blah, blah, blah.

We can agree to disagree. This discussion became a bore long ago. We'll see where this team ends up, then we can compare notes. Until then, it's all just speculation.

Very mature answer... What are you a "B" cup now?

[mnstate0fhockey]

Very mature and intelligent answer... What are you a "B" cup now?

Wish I could say the same for your response.

[mnstate0fhockey]

Re: Ice Breaker Tournament: Clarkson vs. New Hampshire & Mercyhurst vs. Minnesota

I have Brodzinski leading freshman defensemen with 6 pts and only two freshman forwards breaking 30 pts.

Predicted stats

You keep talking about the freshman replacing the stats Bjugstad, Haula (you forgot to list our points leader from last year), Budish, and Scmidt put up last year, but what you fail to consider is that one of these freshmen defenders will also be replacing Mark Alt and/or Seth Helgeson who put up pretty pedestrian numbers last season. Won't be nearly as difficult to improve on those with the talent we are brining in. I predicted neither freshmen defender will fully replace the points Schmidt put up.

As for freshmen putting up 30+ points, take a look at the list of past freshmen you listed and compare what the ones who didn't do so well their freshmen seasons did in juniors and compare that to what some of our incoming freshmen did. Take a look at shooting % of some of the incoming freshmen forwards. Both Lettieri and Guertler scored on a pretty high percentage of their shots. It's also no fluke that Cammarata has put up huge numbers at every level he's played.

I think we'll see a freshmen defender put up 10-15 pts this year (though I predicted both will have less above) because I think they have the talent and will get the minutes. I also think we'll see a few of our freshmen forwards put up 30+ pts this season as I think they have the talent, experience in juniors, and will get special teams opportunity. You apparently disagree, which is fine. We'll see at the end of the season.

[burd]

Re: Ice Breaker Tournament: Clarkson vs. New Hampshire & Mercyhurst vs. Minnesota

I have Brodzinski leading freshman defensemen with 6 pts and only two freshman forwards breaking 30 pts.

Predicted stats

You keep talking about the freshman replacing the stats Bjugstad, Haula (you forgot to list our points leader from last year), Budish, and Scmidt, but what you fail to consider is that one of these freshmen defenders will also be replacing Mark Alt and/or Seth Helgeson who put up pretty pedestrian numbers last season. Won't be nearly as difficult to improve on those with the talent we are brining in. I predicted neither freshmen defender will fully replace the points Schmidt put up.

As for freshmen putting up 30+ points, take a look at the list of past freshmen you listed and compare what the ones who didn't do so well their freshmen seasons did in juniors and compare that to what some of our incoming freshmen did. Take a look at shooting % of some of the incoming freshmen forwards. Both Lettieri and Guertler scored on a pretty high percentage of their shots. It's also no fluke that Cammarata has put up huge numbers at every level he's played.

I think we'll see a freshmen defender put up 10-15 pts this year (though I predicted both will have less above) because I think they have the talent and will get the minutes. I also think we'll see a few of our freshmen forwards put up 30+ pts this season as I think they have the talent, experience in juniors, and will get special teams opportunity. You apparently disagree, which is fine. We'll see at the end of the season.

Do you anticipate any change in scoring based on the change in the teams they will be playing the most this year?

[mnstate0fhockey]

Do you anticipate any change in scoring based on the change in the teams they will be playing the most this year?

That's a great question. I took a look at the schedule to try and project wins and losses (very informally), but didn't really factor the schedule into projecting stats. Might be fun to do if I get the time. I'm guessing the answer to that question will probably be yes.