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  • Re: 2013-2014: NCAA Weekly Pick'em

    Originally posted by all bear View Post
    I setup a Google spreadsheet a couple years ago to do HE picks. Basically gave access to the sheet for all the players. They enter their own picks ; saves you a ton of work.
    I thought about doing that this year, but it allows people to change their picks after they have posted (and after the game has been played). Perhaps if there were a locking option where no one could edit it after a certain time? I'm not really disappointed in the way it worked this year...wasn't too difficult for me at all. Although, I can see where having a more visible option might be enticing for a lot of people. I'm sure we can figure something out in time for next season.
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      Thanks for running the thread - it is great fun! I would like to see fewer bonus questions but not get rid of them completely. I am available to help also.
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        Originally posted by Siouxfaninseattle View Post
        Thanks for running the thread - it is great fun! I would like to see fewer bonus questions but not get rid of them completely. I am available to help also.
        Seconded, and seconded and seconded! Really enjoyed the season, even after slipping off the early national pedestal.

        If I were to suggest modification, it would be towards more games and fewer bonus points. Just seems to me that after the great season 5hole had, he should have been closer to the overall top (even if he is a BC fan ). Also I little discomfited by my nearness to allbear in multiple categories. Not good to have the UNH and ME fans too close together

        Wonder how the conferences fared overall. Hockey East and the Nacho are decently represented in the standings, but don't know where a lot of the players' allegiance lies.

        Thanks again FS. [I wore my black Sioux jersey for the semi-, but it obviously wasn't enough ]
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          Originally posted by Siouxfaninseattle View Post
          Thanks for running the thread - it is great fun! I would like to see fewer bonus questions but not get rid of them completely. I am available to help also.
          Originally posted by Aerman View Post
          Seconded, and seconded and seconded! Really enjoyed the season, even after slipping off the early national pedestal.

          If I were to suggest modification, it would be towards more games and fewer bonus points. Just seems to me that after the great season 5hole had, he should have been closer to the overall top (even if he is a BC fan ). Also I little discomfited by my nearness to allbear in multiple categories. Not good to have the UNH and ME fans too close together

          Wonder how the conferences fared overall. Hockey East and the Nacho are decently represented in the standings, but don't know where a lot of the players' allegiance lies.

          Thanks again FS. [I wore my black Sioux jersey for the semi-, but it obviously wasn't enough ]
          So, this season, I generally tried to find 2 games/conference each week that was a good matchup and not an easy prediction. When a conference only had 1 game represented, I did a "bonus" for that conference (i.e. shots on goal in the NCHC on Saturday if the only NCHC game was from Friday).

          As far as points are concerned, the bonus only represented about 20-25% of the points scored. Moreover, there was only a couple % points difference from the "best" bonus scorer and the "worst" (taking out those that didn't predict bonus questions). In other words, it didn't really make too much of a difference in the standings. What made the difference was the increase in points given out for the games from the 1st half to the 2nd half (2 to 4) and then from the regular season to the tournaments. For example, FH12 went 80-37-13 (.665) in the first half of the season, but finished 83-63-12 (.563). It was still good enough to take home the % title, but the reason FH12 slipped in the points race was not due to bonus, but rather the 10% drop in accuracy down the home stretch when the games were worth more and others increased their accuracy.

          Given all that, here are some proposed solutions that might make everyone happier...please let me know what option you prefer, or what changes to certain options you would like

          GAMES PICKED w/BONUS OPTIONS:

          1) We pick 15 games each week, generally spread throughout the conferences. There will be 1 bonus question each week.

          2) We pick 12 games each week, 2 from each of the 6 conferences regardless of matchups. In weeks where not enough conference games are played, non-conference games or extra matchups from the conferences will be used. There will be 1 bonus question each week.

          3) We pick 10 games each week, generally spread throughout the conferences. There will be 2 bonus questions each week.

          4) We pick every game in college hockey (minus exhibitions). There will be only rare bonus questions, around 4-5 times/season.

          5) We pick 20 games each week, generally spread throughout the conferences. There will be 1 bonus question each week.

          GENERAL SCORING OPTIONS:

          A) In the first half of the season, the games will be worth 2 points. In the second half of the season, the games will be worth 4 points. Points will increase for the conference and national tournaments.

          B) In the first half of the season, the games will be worth 1 point. In the second half of the season, the games will be worth 2 points. Points will increase for the conference and national tournaments

          C) Throughout the entire season, the games will be worth 2 points. This will include conference and national tournament games.

          D) Throughout the regular season, the games will be worth 3 points, but points will go up for conference and national tournaments.

          BONUS SCORING OPTIONS:

          I) Each Bonus Question will be worth 5 points.

          II) Each Bonus Question will be worth 10 points.

          III) In the first half of the season, the bonus will be worth 5 points. In the second half of the season, the bonus will be worth 10 points.

          IV) All Bonus Questions will be all or nothing, and will vary throughout the season as to how much they are worth. They will be worth at least 5 points, but never more than 15.


          Obviously, there are many more options that could be created, but I thought I would use these to get a start going. If there is a perfect scenario that is included here, let me know. For example, you could say you like Option 5-A-II. We have some time before the start of next season, so no rush, but it would be nice to get things squared away as soon as possible.

          Thanks once again to everyone for giving me your thoughts. I'll keep trying to improve NCAA Pick'em until it is as perfect as we can get it.
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            Thank you FS23 for your time and efforts with running this. It makes scoreboard watching more interesting through the season, and I'll be back next year! I don't love the bonus stuff either, but am going to play along either way.

            My picks = 5), C)
            Last edited by 97osu; 04-14-2014, 11:23 AM.
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              I vote for 1. - D. - II. And, of course, something festive for Christmas Tournaments! Can we earn candy canes?
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              • Re: 2013-2014: NCAA Weekly Pick'em

                Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
                So, this season, I generally tried to find 2 games/conference each week that was a good matchup and not an easy prediction. When a conference only had 1 game represented, I did a "bonus" for that conference (i.e. shots on goal in the NCHC on Saturday if the only NCHC game was from Friday).

                As far as points are concerned, the bonus only represented about 20-25% of the points scored. Moreover, there was only a couple % points difference from the "best" bonus scorer and the "worst" (taking out those that didn't predict bonus questions). In other words, it didn't really make too much of a difference in the standings. What made the difference was the increase in points given out for the games from the 1st half to the 2nd half (2 to 4) and then from the regular season to the tournaments. For example, FH12 went 80-37-13 (.665) in the first half of the season, but finished 83-63-12 (.563). It was still good enough to take home the % title, but the reason FH12 slipped in the points race was not due to bonus, but rather the 10% drop in accuracy down the home stretch when the games were worth more and others increased their accuracy.

                Given all that, here are some proposed solutions that might make everyone happier...please let me know what option you prefer, or what changes to certain options you would like

                GAMES PICKED w/BONUS OPTIONS:

                1) We pick 15 games each week, generally spread throughout the conferences. There will be 1 bonus question each week.

                2) We pick 12 games each week, 2 from each of the 6 conferences regardless of matchups. In weeks where not enough conference games are played, non-conference games or extra matchups from the conferences will be used. There will be 1 bonus question each week.

                3) We pick 10 games each week, generally spread throughout the conferences. There will be 2 bonus questions each week.

                4) We pick every game in college hockey (minus exhibitions). There will be only rare bonus questions, around 4-5 times/season.

                5) We pick 20 games each week, generally spread throughout the conferences. There will be 1 bonus question each week.

                GENERAL SCORING OPTIONS:

                A) In the first half of the season, the games will be worth 2 points. In the second half of the season, the games will be worth 4 points. Points will increase for the conference and national tournaments.

                B) In the first half of the season, the games will be worth 1 point. In the second half of the season, the games will be worth 2 points. Points will increase for the conference and national tournaments

                C) Throughout the entire season, the games will be worth 2 points. This will include conference and national tournament games.

                D) Throughout the regular season, the games will be worth 3 points, but points will go up for conference and national tournaments.

                BONUS SCORING OPTIONS:

                I) Each Bonus Question will be worth 5 points.

                II) Each Bonus Question will be worth 10 points.

                III) In the first half of the season, the bonus will be worth 5 points. In the second half of the season, the bonus will be worth 10 points.

                IV) All Bonus Questions will be all or nothing, and will vary throughout the season as to how much they are worth. They will be worth at least 5 points, but never more than 15.


                Obviously, there are many more options that could be created, but I thought I would use these to get a start going. If there is a perfect scenario that is included here, let me know. For example, you could say you like Option 5-A-II. We have some time before the start of next season, so no rush, but it would be nice to get things squared away as soon as possible.

                Thanks once again to everyone for giving me your thoughts. I'll keep trying to improve NCAA Pick'em until it is as perfect as we can get it.
                Thank you for running this!

                My picks:

                1, C, I
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                  FS23, thanks for running the board - I enjoyed it, and had more reason to look at scores from out of my conference.

                  For next year, I pick 5, D, and IV
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                  • Re: 2013-2014: NCAA Weekly Pick'em

                    Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
                    I thought about doing that this year, but it allows people to change their picks after they have posted (and after the game has been played). Perhaps if there were a locking option where no one could edit it after a certain time? I'm not really disappointed in the way it worked this year...wasn't too difficult for me at all. Although, I can see where having a more visible option might be enticing for a lot of people. I'm sure we can figure something out in time for next season.
                    I really have no complaints other than I wish I was able to play more of the games. I think I played or picked about half the games this season. Whatever you do, with less or more bonus points is OK with me. Thanks for all the effort and work running this. Looking forward to next season again )
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                      1, C, I are my votes.
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                      • Re: 2013-2014: NCAA Weekly Pick'em

                        Originally posted by BCeagle View Post
                        I really have no complaints other than I wish I was able to play more of the games. I think I played or picked about half the games this season. Whatever you do, with less or more bonus points is OK with me. Thanks for all the effort and work running this. Looking forward to next season again )
                        Anytime...I'm sure I enjoy it as much as everyone else as well.

                        You certainly missed out on a good chunk of games. You wound up picking 206 games out of 288 possible. You missed almost the entire first half of the season (only picked 2 of the first 11 weeks), but picked almost every game starting with the Holiday Tournaments and through the NCAA Tournament. Had you picked every week and received the average, you would have added 135 points for 728 points, just between myself and FH12.
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                          Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
                          For example, FH12 went 80-37-13 (.665) in the first half of the season, but finished 83-63-12 (.563). It was still good enough to take home the % title, but the reason FH12 slipped in the points race was not due to bonus, but rather the 10% drop in accuracy down the home stretch when the games were worth more and others increased their accuracy.
                          I was absolutely amazed no one passed me. My picks sucked in the second half. So what's that say about everyone else?

                          Thanks for doing this FS23. I enjoy Pick'em very much. I prefer a less bonus questions, but whatever you decide is fine with me.

                          I play two games during the season... Pick'em and Fantasy College Hockey. Between the two, one really gets a feel for what's going on in ALL of D-1 hockey. Not only the individual player stats, but the strength of the teams as well, and what makes certain teams stronger than others. That is of course, if one is paying attention.
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                          • Re: 2013-2014: NCAA Weekly Pick'em

                            I don't think it is necessary to have the exact same number of games every week. There might be some great match-ups one week and maybe not the next. I would like to see 12-15 games/week with one or two bonus questions/week. The number of points could vary with the question - maybe 5 points for # of minutes played in XYZ conference and 10 points for SOG (but never or rarely all or nothing for number of points). I like 2 points for games in the first half and four points in the second half. Higher points for the FF is a good idea but maybe not 25 and 50. One thing that I think would increase enthusiasm and keep people interested is more timely reporting. I realize that you are very busy, so take the offer of help that a few posters have offered!
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                              Have not been really involved here, but, would there be any interest in a USCHO NHL playoff pick-em group over at NHL.com. Apologies if I have been redundant. I would volunteer to set it up if there is interest.
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                              • Re: 2013-2014: NCAA Weekly Pick'em

                                Think you should keep a little flexibility on the "Pick Em." Some weeks have more compelling matchups, so as long as each conference has one included, most interesting games prevail.
                                2. We pick 12 games each week generally spread throughout the conferences. with 1 or 2 bonus questions-surprise us
                                C or D until national tournament then go up.
                                I or II, but not all or nothing.


                                Hmmm, I think I did better on bonus questions than picking so ==1 point a game and at least 20 for bonus
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