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  • genecarr
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    Re: Spreading Hockey in NYC - 9 Rink Complex Coming To The Bronx

    Originally posted by Osorojo View Post
    We may be missing the main point here. Within a couple of miles of this proposed rink complex there are several million youngsters who will be given access to ice time and hockey programs. Talent does not depend upon nationality or race or political boundaries. With all respect to upper mid-west elitists, the odds are this new complex will become a gold mine of DI recruits. This and the larger fan base will not harm DI hockey.
    "E pur, si muove."
    I read that there will be something similar to the Ed Snider Youth Hockey Foundation (http://www.esyhf.org/default.asp) included as part of the overall mission. I detest the Flyers but this is a very good program, and I'd love to see it succeed in the Bronx.

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  • blackswampboy
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    Re: Spreading Hockey in NYC - 9 Rink Complex Coming To The Bronx

    Originally posted by ADK11 View Post
    You obviously don't know much about this part of the Bronx, or Westchester for that matter. Kingsbridge is a middle class neighborhood and nearby Riverdale and Marble Hill are pretty affluent. Overall this is a nice section of the Bronx with a lot parks, the NYC Botanical Gardens and several colleges. Yonkers & Mount Vernon in Westchester are in tougher shape then some of this area. Yes, there are plenty of poor people and bad areas in the Bronx, but there is no reason that a youth hockey program can't offer some financial help, donated equipment, etc. to encourage kids to play who wouldn't normally have the resources. Overall this sounds like a great idea, though you have to wonder how the economics would work with 9 rinks going.
    I haven't been to the Bronx for years, and certainly not intending to dump on it. but as you say...9 rinks is a lot, and funding is always an issue.
    good to hear about the programs for letting city kids play hockey. wish it nothing but success.

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  • Ralph Baer
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    Re: Spreading Hockey in NYC - 9 Rink Complex Coming To The Bronx

    Originally posted by ADK11 View Post
    You obviously don't know much about this part of the Bronx, or Westchester for that matter. Kingsbridge is a middle class neighborhood and nearby Riverdale and Marble Hill are pretty affluent. Overall this is a nice section of the Bronx with a lot parks, the NYC Botanical Gardens and several colleges. Yonkers & Mount Vernon in Westchester are in tougher shape then some of this area. Yes, there are plenty of poor people and bad areas in the Bronx, but there is no reason that a youth hockey program can't offer some financial help, donated equipment, etc. to encourage kids to play who wouldn't normally have the resources. Overall this sounds like a great idea, though you have to wonder how the economics would work with 9 rinks going.
    I haven't been past there since I graduated HS in 1964 (been a while ). It's right at the Kingsbridge Road station of the Jerome Avenue El, directly south of Lehman College (formerly NYU-uptown).

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  • ADK11
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    Re: Spreading Hockey in NYC - 9 Rink Complex Coming To The Bronx

    Originally posted by blackswampboy View Post
    kids from westchester, sure. but it won't be many bronx kids, unless there's a lot of money on the table every year for equipment and ice time.
    the building is mighty impressive, but success will come down to the nuts & bolts of operation... they're gonna have to be creative & clever in running the place.
    You obviously don't know much about this part of the Bronx, or Westchester for that matter. Kingsbridge is a middle class neighborhood and nearby Riverdale and Marble Hill are pretty affluent. Overall this is a nice section of the Bronx with a lot parks, the NYC Botanical Gardens and several colleges. Yonkers & Mount Vernon in Westchester are in tougher shape then some of this area. Yes, there are plenty of poor people and bad areas in the Bronx, but there is no reason that a youth hockey program can't offer some financial help, donated equipment, etc. to encourage kids to play who wouldn't normally have the resources. Overall this sounds like a great idea, though you have to wonder how the economics would work with 9 rinks going.

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  • joecct
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    Re: Spreading Hockey in NYC - 9 Rink Complex Coming To The Bronx

    Originally posted by ExileOnDaytonStreet View Post
    Naturally, one assumes that the most likely New York school to add hockey (if it were to ever somehow happen) would be the Ivy League school. However, according to google maps, Kingsbridge Armory is about 6.9 miles from the Columbia campus. If I know New Yorkers like I think I do, that means that it might as well be in Delaware.

    And, for the record, the only other Ivy without a program (Penn) has a rink and they dropped their program years ago. I don't know if the rink is a dump, but from what I've read it even has a seating capacity larger than some other Ivy rinks.
    Penn dropped their varsity program after the 77-78(?) season. They have an ACHA team now.

    The Class of '23 rink is a concrete box that is not bad. Good sightlines. Saw a 12-10 game there (D-I) many years ago.

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  • du78
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    Re: Spreading Hockey in NYC - 9 Rink Complex Coming To The Bronx

    Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    It's also possible that someone who has played in the area is feeling philanthropic. Have you ever heard of "Hasek's Heroes" in Buffalo, which gives lower income families a chance for their kids to play hockey?
    Same thing with the "Ice Hockey in Harlem" program which the Rangers are one of the sponsors. I could see that program expanding into this new venue and growing.

    http://www.icehockeyinharlem.org/
    Last edited by du78; 04-24-2013, 05:15 PM.

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  • FlagDUDE08
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    Re: Spreading Hockey in NYC - 9 Rink Complex Coming To The Bronx

    Originally posted by blackswampboy View Post
    kids from westchester, sure. but it won't be many bronx kids, unless there's a lot of money on the table every year for equipment and ice time.
    the building is mighty impressive, but success will come down to the nuts & bolts of operation... they're gonna have to be creative & clever in running the place.
    It's also possible that someone who has played in the area is feeling philanthropic. Have you ever heard of "Hasek's Heroes" in Buffalo, which gives lower income families a chance for their kids to play hockey?

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  • blackswampboy
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    Re: Spreading Hockey in NYC - 9 Rink Complex Coming To The Bronx

    Originally posted by Osorojo View Post
    We may be missing the main point here. Within a couple of miles of this proposed rink complex there are several million youngsters who will be given access to ice time and hockey programs. Talent does not depend upon nationality or race or political boundaries. With all respect to upper mid-west elitists, the odds are this new complex will become a gold mine of DI recruits. This and the larger fan base will not harm DI hockey.
    "E pur, si muove."
    kids from westchester, sure. but it won't be many bronx kids, unless there's a lot of money on the table every year for equipment and ice time.
    the building is mighty impressive, but success will come down to the nuts & bolts of operation... they're gonna have to be creative & clever in running the place.

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  • FlagDUDE08
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    Re: Spreading Hockey in NYC - 9 Rink Complex Coming To The Bronx

    Originally posted by northeastern View Post
    ..that's a good point.
    This is signature worthy.

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  • ExileOnDaytonStreet
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    Originally posted by northeastern View Post
    ..actually Fordham U. is nearby as stated.. pretty logical for them as well.
    I suppose Fordham would be more likely to add hockey than the school that I was mixing them up with (Hofstra). I knew that there was a relatively well known NYC school that was dropping sports, and I got those two mixed up.

    Still... one would think that the Ivy League school would be more likely to add something if there were easy enough access to a rink.

    Originally posted by Osorojo View Post
    We may be missing the main point here. Within a couple of miles of this proposed rink complex there are several million youngsters who will be given access to ice time and hockey programs. Talent does not depend upon nationality or race or political boundaries. With all respect to upper mid-west elitists, the odds are this new complex will become a gold mine of DI recruits. This and the larger fan base will not harm DI hockey.
    "E pur, si muove."
    Fair point. Anything that gets kids playing hockey is good for the sport.

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  • northeastern
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    Re: Spreading Hockey in NYC - 9 Rink Complex Coming To The Bronx

    Originally posted by Osorojo View Post
    ..Within a couple of miles of this proposed rink complex there are several million youngsters who will be given access to ice time and hockey programs. Talent does not depend upon nationality or race or political boundaries. With all respect to upper mid-west elitists, the odds are this new complex will become a gold mine of DI recruits..
    ..that's a good point.

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  • Osorojo
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    Re: Spreading Hockey in NYC - 9 Rink Complex Coming To The Bronx

    We may be missing the main point here. Within a couple of miles of this proposed rink complex there are several million youngsters who will be given access to ice time and hockey programs. Talent does not depend upon nationality or race or political boundaries. With all respect to upper mid-west elitists, the odds are this new complex will become a gold mine of DI recruits. This and the larger fan base will not harm DI hockey.
    "E pur, si muove."

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  • KnightsOfTheRound
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    Re: Spreading Hockey in NYC - 9 Rink Complex Coming To The Bronx

    Originally posted by Patman View Post
    For college a lot will come down to how many seats one dedicated rink will have... If you get say 4000 seats in one then there is potential. IMO, I'd have to think there would be a market for cheap hockey in that area
    The "main" rink will have seating for ~5,000. Plenty big for college hockey.

    source: http://www.mikebloomberg.com/index.c...1E2AF19E658D62

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  • northeastern
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    ..i read somewhere, they were thinking of about 5000 seats for the main rink.

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  • Patman
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    Re: Spreading Hockey in NYC - 9 Rink Complex Coming To The Bronx

    For college a lot will come down to how many seats one dedicated rink will have... If you get say 4000 seats in one then there is potential. IMO, I'd have to think there would be a market for cheap hockey in that area

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