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Originally posted by chickod View PostHow can population have "nothing to do with it?" The reason why you get good attendance in Manchester, Providence and Worcester is because there is a LARGE POPULATION within an hour of these locations. There is not a LARGE POPULATION within an hour of Bangor. Unless the percentage of "Maine" hockey fans is three times higher than anywhere else in the country. So what you're saying is, say, 40% of the population in Penobscot County (population: 153,786) will go to the games, whereas only 1% of the population in Eastern Massachusetts (population: about 4,000,000), Southern New Hampshire (population: around 800,000) and Rhode Island (population: 1,050,292) will go to the games down there (the percentages are hypothetical - you get the point).
And by the way........you DO realize that people in Maine don't mind driving 2, 3, 4 hours to see college hockey games......right? Many used to drive to Orono before the program was driven into the ground. Mainers aren't like NH and MA residents that think a "long drive" is 20 minutes.
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Originally posted by Fishhawk View PostUhhh... YES IT DOES! It's too small, it's 4 hours away from the nearest other D1 hockey team and it has NO ICE!! Maine only sells 4100 tickets to it's own games, you think those people are going to spend 3 or 4 times the money to watch teams from out of state play? I have no axe to grind against you or Maine but watching you make a fool of yourself is getting painful! Please. Stop.
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Originally posted by chickod View PostNot to mention that most of the games are joined in progress because apparently ESPN doesn't understand that there is not a finite time limit in hockey...especially in the post-season where it seems as though every little thing is "reviewed" and the game drags out longer and longer.
It's just a matter of time before we get one of those multiple OT games in a venue where the times are staggered late just to accommodate TV. When it happens, not only will they miss broadcasting huge portions of the following game, but it will really screw the fan who paid $80 to see it.
One more reason this whole round needs to be "rethought" by the NCAA.
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Worcester and Manchester both have averaged over 8000, Providence is lower but still respectable.
I remember the previous regional in Providence didn't draw that great -- one reason being that the ticket $$ was higher than it was in Worcester (if I'm remembering it correctly) that same year. At least it wasn't any higher this time around, and certainly the promotion was also better this time as well.Last edited by HockeyMan2000; 04-02-2013, 10:55 AM.
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Originally posted by sandiegoblkbr View PostMainers aren't like NH and MA residents that think a "long drive" is 20 minutes.
And just as a side note, we drive to New Jersey (4 1/2 hours) all the time to visit relatives. We don't drive as much because we don't HAVE to...which is the whole point of this discussion. Everything is within closer proximity.
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Originally posted by sandiegoblkbr View PostIf Portland is a crap hole than most other cities in New England must be total sh*t.Last edited by chickod; 04-02-2013, 10:46 AM.
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Originally posted by HockeyMan2000 View PostWhat would've happened if that St.Lawrence-BU game in Albany years back had been played not at Noon time but in the 5:30 slot this year in Providence?
But, the more we complain the more we're going to hear from the people who say, "Be happy it's on at all." Which is true, because years ago the only way you could see these games was to go. It would be nice if they tried to be accomodating, but the reality is the NCAA just doesn't care enough.
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Originally posted by chickod View PostI was at that game (not a good memory ) DiPietro made 77 saves. We had good intentions of staying for the next game, but left after about 10 minutes. Even then, I think I got home at 3:00 a.m.
But, the more we complain the more we're going to hear from the people who say, "Be happy it's on at all." Which is true, because years ago the only way you could see these games was to go. It would be nice if they tried to be accomodating, but the reality is the NCAA just doesn't care enough.
I mean, surely these games aren't bringing in big ratings for ESPN. It's good that they're being televised, but really most of the games have been available to people for a long time now (one way or another). If they wanted to, they could put more games into syndication -- like they did back at the time we were up in Albany -- and not do ridiculous things like play late games in Providence with face-offs after 9pm. That's the kind of thing that can be changed. Those Providence games should've been played at Noon and 3:30. I guarantee you they would've had more walk-up business playing at that hour too.
Playing games in empty or half-full arenas isn't good for the sport or the gate that's being generated. I agree totally that 2 regional sites is the way to go. Whether that requires 3 days of games, or a "preliminary" on campus round, we can debate about it. But to me, ever since they split the regionals up into 4 sites, it's been a losing proposition in terms of the quality of the product, and it needs to be addressed. I can't imagine it won't be eventually when you have 1000-2000 fans out west. That's just pathetic (and understandable!).Last edited by HockeyMan2000; 04-02-2013, 11:09 AM.
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Originally posted by HockeyMan2000 View PostProvidence, I feel, did well with the field they were allotted, especially when you consider Manchester had two local/nearby HE schools and two big programs out of the WCHA. By comparison, Quinnipiac, Canisius, Union are not necessarily big names that would get the casual fan to show up. BC doesn't always bring huge numbers and they were playing the late game the night before Easter on top of it. To do 11,000 over the two days, with a Q-U final as well, was pretty decent. If they had more "draws" there, I think they would've filled the place up with no problem.
I remember the previous regional in Providence didn't draw that great -- one reason being that the ticket $$ was higher than it was in Worcester (if I'm remembering it correctly) that same year. At least it wasn't any higher this time around, and certainly the promotion was also better this time as well.
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Originally posted by chickod View PostEasy there, big guy. You're still missing the point. I don't care how long they're willing to drive. As you saw, if you add the total populations of Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Rhode Island (not even including Connecticut), Maine comprises about 12% of that. So what you're telling me is that they will draw as many people as the other venues that have 8 times the population? Good luck.
And just as a side note, we drive to New Jersey (4 1/2 hours) all the time to visit relatives. We don't drive as much because we don't HAVE to...which is the whole point of this discussion. Everything is within closer proximity.
So tell me why Bangor, Maine draws 10.....12....15K to concerts 10-15 times per summer???? Ticket prices range from $50-$100+...........there just can't be enough people in the Central/Eastern Maine area to generate those types of crowds at those prices multiple times every summer......??? Oh, what's that you say...........people are driving hours to see these concerts? That can't be.........why would people drive to Bangor when there are numerous summer concert venues all over New England.....many with the same concert line-ups........???? Hmmm.........gonna have to think this one through...........
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Originally posted by sandiegoblkbr View PostSo what you are saying is that Providence would draw well with the right teams.......and if ticket prices were lower.......and if it wasn't the day before Easter.......and......and....
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Originally posted by sandiegoblkbr View PostSo tell me why Bangor, Maine draws 10.....12....15K to concerts 10-15 times per summer????
In order to draw crowds, you have to have a POPULATION BASE to draw from. We're not picking on Maine. I'd say the same thing if it were Vermont. There AREN'T ENOUGH PEOPLE there. Nobody is saying anything about whether they're "good" fans or not. It's the same reason they don't have the American Dental Association (or fill in some major event here) Convention in Old Town. Conversely, it's the same reason whey they have conventions every WEEK in Boston. You live in a RURAL area. Not enough people are going to go there!!!!!
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