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  • Re: Attendance at Regionals

    Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    The entire attendance-issue could well be moot right now,as long as ESPN shows nearly all the games nationally.

    The TV money is there, as well as the national exposure, and can you imagine how embarrassed The World Wide Leader would be, trying to explain why some team like Michigan snuck-in as a 4 seed, and played on campus, just for the sake of filling the bleachers during an event that they were hyping?
    Like they'd even mention it.

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    • Originally posted by MGoBlueHockey View Post
      It won't be long before we see an outdoor regional. Bank on it.
      I'm thinking late march would run the risk of being much to warm for outdoor games... At least in the eastern area.

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      • Re: Attendance at Regionals

        Originally posted by MGoBlueHockey View Post
        It won't be long before we see an outdoor regional. Bank on it.
        I will refuse to go to an outdoor regional... you can't go that big without dedicated teams and build-up.
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        • Re: Attendance at Regionals

          Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post
          The entire attendance-issue could well be moot right now,as long as ESPN shows nearly all the games nationally.

          The TV money is there, as well as the national exposure, and can you imagine how embarrassed The World Wide Leader would be, trying to explain why some team like Michigan snuck-in as a 4 seed, and played on campus, just for the sake of filling the bleachers during an event that they were hyping?

          Hell, they have trouble selling the PWR, never mind rationalizing the manipulation of attendance... This situation is as good as it's gonna get for the time being.
          I don't know what's been said, but I can't see them going to a home-bid regional system... that would tick off WAY too many people.

          Sigh... the 12 team set up was great... I'm not asking for a return, but the casual fan was guarenteed 4 games and 6 teams. I know attendance in the east always did real well.
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          • Re: Attendance at Regionals

            Originally posted by Patman View Post
            I don't know what's been said, but I can't see them going to a home-bid regional system... that would tick off WAY too many people.

            Sigh... the 12 team set up was great... I'm not asking for a return, but the casual fan was guarenteed 4 games and 6 teams. I know attendance in the east always did real well.
            And again (and I know you know this), the east benefits with much less travel time on average, no matter how you cut it. Yes, it makes a HUGE difference. Heck, even the B1G teams' fans I know are dialing back on road trips next year b/c of travel time/cost for regular season games. And those are set matchups.
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            • Re: Attendance at Regionals

              Originally posted by Patman View Post
              I don't know what's been said, but I can't see them going to a home-bid regional system... that would tick off WAY too many people.

              Sigh... the 12 team set up was great... I'm not asking for a return, but the casual fan was guarenteed 4 games and 6 teams. I know attendance in the east always did real well.
              With all due respect, I hated that format, because there always seemed to be an auto-bye for an undeserving team. (Usually Clarkson.)

              Perhaps if the NCAA used the PWR to seed the teams, vs. gifting the auto-bids, it wouldn't be so bad.

              I still maintain that it's all about the national TV exposure, though. As long as college hockey has that, it really doesn't matter much if people attend the games... The sport will grow in spite of itself.

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              • Re: Attendance at Regionals

                IMO, PWR to seed, but have the regionals in places that will sell. Preset. Sure, you'll see the powerhouse arenas (just using the western ones) like MI, MN, UND, WI if they don't kick the tourney out of the Kohl, etc, but I'd rather see full(er) buildings than 3/4 empty ones.

                More people will get excited when they see a larger engaged crowd. Mob mentality (relatively).
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                • Re: Attendance at Regionals

                  ESPN takes great care never to show the seats.

                  No problem there.

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                  • Re: Attendance at Regionals

                    Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post
                    ESPN takes great care never to show the seats unless the other sports' contracts require them to. Just like showing the actual games.

                    No problem there.
                    Fixed.
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                    • Re: Attendance at Regionals

                      Originally posted by ericredaxe View Post
                      I'm thinking late march would run the risk of being much to warm for outdoor games... At least in the eastern area.
                      Like having a game in Los Angeles?

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                      • Re: Attendance at Regionals

                        If people liked the 12 team tournament so much I say we shift towards an east and west super regional. Have 2 regional locations, have semifinal games on Friday and Saturday with Championship games on Sunday.

                        West (or East) Regional
                        Friday:
                        Game 1: A1 vs A4
                        Game 2: A2 vs A3

                        Saturday:
                        Game 3: B1 vs B4
                        Game 4: B2 vs B3

                        Sunday:
                        Game 5: G1W vs G2W
                        Game 6: G3W vs G4W

                        Sound good?
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                        • Re: Attendance at Regionals

                          Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
                          If people liked the 12 team tournament so much I say we shift towards an east and west super regional. Have 2 regional locations, have semifinal games on Friday and Saturday with Championship games on Sunday.

                          West (or East) Regional
                          Friday:
                          Game 1: A1 vs A4
                          Game 2: A2 vs A3

                          Saturday:
                          Game 3: B1 vs B4
                          Game 4: B2 vs B3

                          Sunday:
                          Game 5: G1W vs G2W
                          Game 6: G3W vs G4W

                          Sound good?
                          I've always liked that kind of setup. One problem is the "dead" day -- in your example, for the Game 1 and Game 2 fans. That works OK for the FF, but I suspect regional attendees wouldn't like the open day for a regional.

                          One idea that occurs to me is a “regional” super-regional. For example:

                          Day 1
                          2 Regional A games at BU (or BC , Matthews, or Harvard, or Lowell)
                          2 Regional B games at Worcester (or BC, etc.)
                          with a provision that nobody gets to play at their home rink.

                          Day 2
                          2 Regional finals at Worcester

                          The key would be at least two rinks, one of which is a neutral site, that are a reasonable commute. Of course the Boston example is unique and the problem is really in the west. Maybe St. Paul/Mariucci/Mankato/St. Cloud is a possibility.

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                          • Re: Attendance at Regionals

                            Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
                            If people liked the 12 team tournament so much I say we shift towards an east and west super regional. Have 2 regional locations, have semifinal games on Friday and Saturday with Championship games on Sunday.

                            West (or East) Regional
                            Friday:
                            Game 1: A1 vs A4
                            Game 2: A2 vs A3

                            Saturday:
                            Game 3: B1 vs B4
                            Game 4: B2 vs B3

                            Sunday:
                            Game 5: G1W vs G2W
                            Game 6: G3W vs G4W

                            Sound good?
                            This is the only solution. With two games deciding Frozen Four teams on the final day, attendance should at least be decent. I wish the conference tournaments would go away (will never happen) and you go right from the regular season to the NCAA regionals. Then you would see a major boost in attendance.

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                            • Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post
                              With all due respect, I hated that format, because there always seemed to be an auto-bye for an undeserving team. (Usually Clarkson.)

                              Perhaps if the NCAA used the PWR to seed the teams, vs. gifting the auto-bids, it wouldn't be so bad.

                              I still maintain that it's all about the national TV exposure, though. As long as college hockey has that, it really doesn't matter much if people attend the games... The sport will grow in spite of itself.
                              It was not called the Clarkson Rule for nothing!!! Too bad we never took advantage of it.

                              I still think Week 1 on campus (either best of 3 or one and done) protects the top seeds, which is what the season was for, right?

                              Then go to a one & done super regional and a week later the Frozen Four.
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                              • Re: Attendance at Regionals

                                Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
                                If people liked the 12 team tournament so much I say we shift towards an east and west super regional. Have 2 regional locations, have semifinal games on Friday and Saturday with Championship games on Sunday.

                                West (or East) Regional
                                Friday:
                                Game 1: A1 vs A4
                                Game 2: A2 vs A3

                                Saturday:
                                Game 3: B1 vs B4
                                Game 4: B2 vs B3

                                Sunday:
                                Game 5: G1W vs G2W
                                Game 6: G3W vs G4W

                                Sound good?
                                The dead day issue can be fixed by making it:

                                Friday:
                                Game 1 A1 vs A4
                                Game 2 B1 vs B4

                                Saturday:
                                Game 3 A2 vs A3
                                Game 4 B2 vs B3

                                Sunday:
                                Winner Game 1 vs Winner Game 3
                                Winner Game 2 vs Winner Game 4

                                Theoretically, the #1 seeds would have Saturday off while the #2 and #3 teams play on Saturday.

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