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  • Re: Michigan Wolverines 2013-14 Season Thread: The B1G Time

    Congrats on the win. Will be interesting to see what the PWR says after this tomorrow and what you need to happen next weekend to get in short of winning the tourney.

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      Originally posted by Hammy View Post
      Not really. They tweaked lines more than usual (I can't figure that one out), held out their 2nd leading scorer for precautionary reasons, etc. The Gophers basically threw the towel in on that game before it even started. I'm not happy about it either.
      Not really? C'mon. They sat Warning, none of the defensive pairings got changed. Wilcox makes a big difference for the confidence of the team.

      Just the same, if it wasn't for Nagelvoort early on, it could have been a different game. The 2nd goal was a bit of a fluke, but not on some of those other goals. Minnesota didn't have the same intensity but I don't think they laid down, either.

      PWR was at 12, we'll see next weekend how things shake out.

      Heard on WTKA during the pre-game that if Michigan would have swept PSU and beaten MSU last weekend that they would be sitting 5th in the PWR. That's how fragile it is. This team needed to show the same effort in those games as they did this weekend and they wouldn't be in desperation mode.

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      • Originally posted by streaker View Post
        Not really? C'mon. They sat Warning, none of the defensive pairings got changed. Wilcox makes a big difference for the confidence of the team.

        Just the same, if it wasn't for Nagelvoort early on, it could have been a different game. The 2nd goal was a bit of a fluke, but not on some of those other goals. Minnesota didn't have the same intensity but I don't think they laid down, either.

        PWR was at 12, we'll see next weekend how things shake out.

        Heard on WTKA during the pre-game that if Michigan would have swept PSU and beaten MSU last weekend that they would be sitting 5th in the PWR. That's how fragile it is. This team needed to show the same effort in those games as they did this weekend and they wouldn't be in desperation mode.
        Nice win, but if you think the Gopher lineup was essentially the same, you're kidding yourself. Wilcox sitting alone was a huge deal, but we also sat our points leader as a precautionary measure and moved one of our more productive freshmen to our 4th line (for God only knows why). I think our coaches sent the wrong message to our players before this game even began.

        Now, that's not to say your team didn't play outstanding and wouldn't have won anyways, but I'm pretty confident you wouldn't have hung six on us and put this game away that early.

        See you in the conference tourney. Always fun when these teams play.
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        • Re: Michigan Wolverines 2013-14 Season Thread: The B1G Time

          Originally posted by mnstate0fhockey View Post
          Nice win, but if you think the Gopher lineup was essentially the same, you're kidding yourself. Wilcox sitting alone was a huge deal, but we also sat our points leader as a precautionary measure and moved one of our more productive freshmen to our 4th line (for God only knows why). I think our coaches sent the wrong message to our players before this game even began.

          Now, that's not to say your team didn't play outstanding and wouldn't have won anyways, but I'm pretty confident you wouldn't have hung six on us and put this game away that early.

          See you in the conference tourney. Always fun when these teams play.
          I thought I said that... Wilcox being the biggest difference. Truth is, your team didn't play with the same intensity b/c they had nothing to play for. It didn't mean they weren't dangerous... our goaltending was the difference early and we popped some goals that I think even Wilcox may not have stopped. But, keep telling yourself that you put out the 'B' team without Warning in the lineup and "let us win". We'll take it- the same way BC did when they lost at Yost.

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            It was nice of the gophers to let us win. The only thing I don't understand is why, when we were winning 1-0 after the first period, Lucia didn't just forfeit the game. That would have given his team a lot more rest. Or maybe just not let us score any more and walk away with a one goal loss. I don't know, but I will defer to tDon on that.

            It was good to see the seniors all have good games. Everyone showed up in the boxscore (Deblois would probably liked to have something besides two penalties, though.)

            On to St. Paul. Early game on Thursday. 2pm, I believe.
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            • Originally posted by streaker View Post
              I thought I said that... Wilcox being the biggest difference. Truth is, your team didn't play with the same intensity b/c they had nothing to play for. It didn't mean they weren't dangerous... our goaltending was the difference early and we popped some goals that I think even Wilcox may not have stopped. But, keep telling yourself that you put out the 'B' team without Warning in the lineup and "let us win". We'll take it- the same way BC did when they lost at Yost.
              Sorry, it was late and I probably misread your post. My bad.

              Anyways, no matter how you slice it, your team played one heck of a good game last night. They deserved that win. Now we know how talented this Michigan squad is when they play to their potential.

              Loving this rivalry already
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              • Originally posted by bluevox View Post
                It was nice of the gophers to let us win. The only thing I don't understand is why, when we were winning 1-0 after the first period, Lucia didn't just forfeit the game. That would have given his team a lot more rest. Or maybe just not let us score any more and walk away with a one goal loss. I don't know, but I will defer to tDon on that.

                It was good to see the seniors all have good games. Everyone showed up in the boxscore (Deblois would probably liked to have something besides two penalties, though.)

                On to St. Paul. Early game on Thursday. 2pm, I believe.
                Please don't interpret what I said to mean that the Gophers let Michigan win. Not what I (and I assume others) were trying to say. Michigan absolutely deserved that win.

                I just don't think the Gophers put their best foot forward yesterday, which led to the game getting out of control fairly fast.

                When both of these teams are playing to their potential, I think they are two very evenly matched teams. I'd expect the norm to be more like Friday (close, hard fought games) then yesterday.
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                  Originally posted by mnstate0fhockey View Post
                  Please don't interpret what I said to mean that the Gophers let Michigan win. Not what I (and I assume others) were trying to say. Michigan absolutely deserved that win.

                  I just don't think the Gophers put their best foot forward yesterday, which led to the game getting out of control fairly fast.

                  When both of these teams are playing to their potential, I think they are two very evenly matched teams. I'd expect the norm to be more like Friday (close, hard fought games) then yesterday.
                  Agreed. But to say that your team was suffering by taking one 20 pt scorer out of the lineup with seven more in the lineup is a bit disingenuous. Wilcox makes a huge difference but, even last night it probably wouldn't have mattered.

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                  • Originally posted by streaker View Post
                    Agreed. But to say that your team was suffering by taking one 20 pt scorer out of the lineup with seven more in the lineup is a bit disingenuous. Wilcox makes a huge difference but, even last night it probably wouldn't have mattered.
                    Going to have to strongly disagree that not having Wilcox in made little difference. And it wasn't just taking Warning out of the lineup. They moved Cammarata to the 4th line and had him play a role he is completely unsuited to play and put Isackson (who has struggled mightily) in the lineup. Essentially, our top two lines were disrupted and showed little chemistry at times. And our fourth line had a 5'6" finesse player asked to play a checking role. Those changes were more significant than you're suggesting.

                    Long story short, I don't think the Gophers put their best foot forward at all. It was an ugly outcome. Not going to discount how well your team played (they played outstanding) or say that the Gophers would have definitely won that game had they not made the lineup changes they did (guessing they still would have lost), but the game probably would have been much closer to Friday night (close, hard fought game until the end).

                    Hope we get to meet again in the conference tourney final. Never a boring game when these two teams play!
                    Last edited by mnstate0fhockey; 03-16-2014, 07:13 PM.
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                    • Re: Michigan Wolverines 2013-14 Season Thread: The B1G Time

                      That was a fun weekend of hockey. Friday's game was close and exciting. Gophs needed an overtime power play to win that one. Dang, Minnesota is fast, but so much fun to watch these two teams skate against each other. Saturday night was just fun, and I'm glad that Senior Night went so well that we got to see Janecyk play a few minutes.

                      Once again we've seen this team can win against anyone (yes, I know the Gophers Saturday lineup wasn't their strongest, but I think Friday proved enough). Now we just need to be consistent. It was fun watching the team play defense. Even Guptill was putting in effort on both ends of the rink.


                      Originally posted by streaker View Post
                      I think the team played one of the best games of the season but couldn't find that 3rd goal they needed. They played too cautious and late in the 2nd it cost them. Kloos' goal was a result of speed allowed through the neutral zone that pushed the defense back, without any backcheck support. It was a great shot.

                      Some other idle partisan views:

                      The officiating seems to be targeting Downing. He is looking around now every time he hits an opponent and got another penalty (for charging) on what was a legitimate hit. Coasted into the guy and never left his feet.

                      McInchak and Hunt swallowed their whistles the entire 3rd period, allowing both teams to get away with interference and other minor infractions, then has the gonads to make that hooking call in OT. Berenson admitted that the PK broke down on the coverage, but he was saying something else as he walked off the ice. He was offering daggers at McInchak. I had added my own .02 to Piotrowski after the game. Both teams deserved something out of this game and IMO, that was denied on a cheap call.
                      I have the same partisan view, so I agree with this. I was surprised that the officials would make a call in overtime with what they were letting go late in the third. And Downing does seem to be targeted. I thought there was a questionable call on him at Munn as well.
                      (please note the tone of this post is not, "OMG the refs screwed us!" but rather, "huh, that sucks")


                      Originally posted by UMICH View Post
                      Rumor has it that student ticket prices are coming way down for next year. Down to $150 from $215 this year.
                      How about regular season tickets? I am beyond sick of getting promo e-mails from Michigan about hockey tickets that were cheaper than my season tickets. I'm considering just buying single games next year. Was the OSU Thanksgiving weekend the only sell out? Certainly it was the only game that by the time I got to the rink it was sold out.
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                      • Re: Michigan Wolverines 2013-14 Season Thread: The B1G Time

                        Originally posted by mnstate0fhockey View Post
                        Please don't interpret what I said to mean that the Gophers let Michigan win.
                        I didn't necessarily mean you or even this thread. My comment was more about the games thread that the Michigan posters have boycotted. I think some of your Gopher friends feel like Michigan didn't win the game, Minnesota let them win.

                        The difference in the game on Saturday was goaltending. Nagelvoort made some tremendous saves in the first to keep Michigan in the game. Shibrowski was not able to make the same types of saves in the second period. Things got away from the Gophers from that point. Would Wilcox have been able to make those saves, I don't know. Would it have made a difference if he had played, yes. Would Michigan have won the game, I think so, but we don't know.

                        I do agree that watching the games between these two teams are fun and fast paced. Good luck in the tournament.
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                        • Re: Michigan Wolverines 2013-14 Season Thread: The B1G Time

                          It's now about believing what they did was real. As much as people will po-po the win, the fact that they played hard all weekend, was able to control the game during significant stretches during the game reminds us what we have. They CAN beat anyone. It's a matter of if they really believe it.

                          Friday was obviously close the entire game, and Satuday was not so much. Both game, both teams got the ice slanted in their direction a few times, and managed to sustain good pressure. Even up in St. Paul, much of the games, they were in them- skating evenly.

                          So remember the game you played against the current #1 and #2 teams in the country. You can do that. Getting one or two close goals and perhaps one pretty one- and we can win.

                          Hopefully Downing will not let the ref's get to his head too much- since there wasn't much else to be even called, they are going to keep an eye on the guy who has gotten in trouble. The charge he was called- I even thought he wiffed on the check more than he hit the guy, lol.... We can remind ourselves that even one guy getting 3 consecutive penalties can still result in a national championship, as we saw back in '96. Just play the game that got you there.

                          We can hope, now.

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                          • Originally posted by wolverineTrumpet View Post
                            How about regular season tickets? I am beyond sick of getting promo e-mails from Michigan about hockey tickets that were cheaper than my season tickets. I'm considering just buying single games next year. Was the OSU Thanksgiving weekend the only sell out? Certainly it was the only game that by the time I got to the rink it was sold out.
                            I did that the year after I graduated. Of course that was at the previous version of Yost and i still went with the students. By big game tickets from the box office, the others get to know the scalpors. You can find a ticket for $10 or less.
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                            Still bitter, eh? Gotta get over it someday. He left, and UMICH was right.
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                            • Re: Michigan Wolverines 2013-14 Season Thread: The B1G Time

                              Originally posted by bluevox View Post
                              I didn't necessarily mean you or even this thread. My comment was more about the games thread that the Michigan posters have boycotted. I think some of your Gopher friends feel like Michigan didn't win the game, Minnesota let them win.

                              The difference in the game on Saturday was goaltending. Nagelvoort made some tremendous saves in the first to keep Michigan in the game. Shibrowski was not able to make the same types of saves in the second period. Things got away from the Gophers from that point. Would Wilcox have been able to make those saves, I don't know. Would it have made a difference if he had played, yes. Would Michigan have won the game, I think so, but we don't know.

                              I do agree that watching the games between these two teams are fun and fast paced. Good luck in the tournament.
                              Agree all the way around. And have to add that I loved the announcer's little twist to the "thank you" on Saturday.

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                              • Re: Michigan Wolverines 2013-14 Season Thread: The B1G Time

                                Originally posted by streaker View Post
                                Agree all the way around. And have to add that I loved the announcer's little twist to the "thank you" on Saturday.
                                +1 in a very big manner.

                                The season ended at Yost in a very nice manner.

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