Michigan Wolverines 2013-14 Season Thread: The B1G Time

[J.D.]

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Watching on TV. Looked like your goalie's positioning was off on that tying goal.

[UMICH]

Watching on TV. Looked like your goalie's positioning was off on that tying goal.

Yep, I was there and saw it clear as day. He anticipated a pass and slid to his left leaving that side of the goal wide open. Attribute that to youth and inexperience.

[Hammer]

Re: Michigan Wolverines 2013-14 Season Thread: The B1G Time

I thought he was screened pretty well, too, but I was 250 feet from the play. *shrug*

[Yosterizer]

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What was the point of the shootout? The game is recorded as a tie, so....what am I missing? The shootout win doesn't count or mean anything. Right?

[Hammer]

Re: Michigan Wolverines 2013-14 Season Thread: The B1G Time

You're correct. We wondered about that ourselves. Especially the goal review in said shoot-out. Think about that. We're reviewing a goal in a shootout that doesn't count for anything.

[CollegeHockeyRinkReport]

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http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2013...-in-a-thriller
Chris Dilks' instant analysis and recap of the 2-2 tie with Ferris State.

[Yosterizer]

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Yeah, that was pretty funny. All that concern about a shootout goal that is completely meaningless. And not only that, but all the Michigan fans (including me) were celebrating the great shootout win! And the FSU parents section were really quiet. But in reality, FSU got a tie in a tough away game environment, and to be honest, mostly outplayed the home team.

[Hammer]

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I don't like playing this game, but tHat could have been a 4-1 Ferris win quite easily. Had they cashed in on a couple more odd-man rushes in the 1st, and had Copp not played Plinko with the Ferris d-man's skate, this is much different game early on.

[alfablue]

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I thought he was screened pretty well, too, but I was 250 feet from the play. *shrug*

Screened, yes, but more important, 6-8 in from the post. That's exactly why you are told to put the puck on the net- it happens.

For me, the reason that happened wasn't just because of poor goalie position- no, worse was the simple fact that the D had control of the puck, ony to turn it over. Not because of being challenged, but because the D guy is back at having problems doing *anything* with the puck. Should have been able to pass their way out of the zone, and it ended up in that chance where things happen.

This was the same D man who challenged the play that led to Ferris's first goal, too. Very bad time to pinch- the winger was already there, no Michigan forwards were heading back, and it was a really nice 2-1 chance. have to say- it was a pretty smart play by Schempp-he got Nagelvoort thinking, and tucked a tight backhand in.

[alfablue]

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I don't like playing this game, but tHat could have been a 4-1 Ferris win quite easily. Had they cashed in on a couple more odd-man rushes in the 1st, and had Copp not played Plinko with the Ferris d-man's skate, this is much different game early on.

Playing that game, it also could have been 4-1 michigan. Once the shooting started in the 2nd, there were a lot of shots.

coudla, woulda, shoulda. didn't.


As for the shootout- we left at the end of regulation, and both CHN and MGOBLUE2Go reported the game correctly- 2-2 tie. I had no idea there was a SO until this morning. whew- i hate those.

[streaker]

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I don't like playing this game, but tHat could have been a 4-1 Ferris win quite easily. Had they cashed in on a couple more odd-man rushes in the 1st, and had Copp not played Plinko with the Ferris d-man's skate, this is much different game early on.

It could have been, but it wasn't. Part of that was dumb luck (crossbar) and some of it was that Michigan got their head out of their tails in the 2nd period and made a game of it.

I'd say that from a team perspective, Michigan would be satisfied with a tie after that atrocious first period where they should have been buried. The defense was brutal and served up 5-6 odd man chances plus the two breakaways. I can see why Ferris would feel like they deserved a better fate- and actually got it in the last five minutes.

After taking the lead (yes, one of the goals was fortuitious) Michigan settled in pretty well until the last 7-8 minutes. I'd say the game tying goal wasn't as gift wrapped as the first, but it was close- so let's not play up Copp's first goal too much. Nagelvoort was out of position, partially screened, but should have made the save. I think I can credit our defensive play with aiding and abetting as much as Ferris creating scoring chances.

[alnike]

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Yeah, Mac Bennett handed two pucks over on a platter last night in the defensive zone. While Bennett has played fine and he has a lot of pressure and responsibility on him this year, I thought he would be more of a difference maker as a senior.

[streaker]

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Yeah, Mac Bennett handed two pucks over on a platter last night in the defensive zone. While Bennett has played fine and he has a lot of pressure and responsibility on him this year, I thought he would be more of a difference maker as a senior.

He got the GWG in Ohio and has been pretty steady. He made a few huge recovery plays last night, too.. but the turnover at the blueline that clanked off of the cross bar was disturbing.

He is the least of the problem though... Clare was on the ice for both goals... the first was just a bonehead move, coming off the benchand then taking a sunday stroll towards the Ferris blueline in an attempt to pinch and got caught flatfooted. Schempp scored on the 2x1. The second was his failure to clear the zone when Ferris had us pinned in deep. It eventually became the Nagelvoort derp from the blue line. Worse yet, he was paired with Sinelli, who, as hard as he works, is not a worthy defenseman- he's a 4th line forward. For the life of me I can't figure out why Chiasson was scratched unless he is hurt. I also question Clare's health- he is not taking the body and is frequently challenging opponents along the boards or in the corners with one hand on the stick poking, instead of being physical. He just seemed to be out of it last night.

Downing made a couple poor decisions, too. DeJong and Serville did a decent job, but also made some poor defensive zone decisions. Part of that was the Ferris forecheck and part of that was the frustration trying to break the neutral zone trap. It seems that everyone knows Michigan's d-zone cycling patterns and has a gameplan to forecheck on it. The problem with d-zone or neutral zone turnovers is that the forwards can't back check as effectively.

[alfablue]

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He got the GWG in Ohio and has been pretty steady. He made a few huge recovery plays last night, too.. but the turnover at the blueline that clanked off of the cross bar was disturbing.

He is the least of the problem though... Clare was on the ice for both goals... the first was just a bonehead move, coming off the benchand then taking a sunday stroll towards the Ferris blueline in an attempt to pinch and got caught flatfooted. Schempp scored on the 2x1. The second was his failure to clear the zone when Ferris had us pinned in deep. It eventually became the Nagelvoort derp from the blue line. Worse yet, he was paired with Sinelli, who, as hard as he works, is not a worthy defenseman- he's a 4th line forward. For the life of me I can't figure out why Chiasson was scratched unless he is hurt. I also question Clare's health- he is not taking the body and is frequently challenging opponents along the boards or in the corners with one hand on the stick poking, instead of being physical. He just seemed to be out of it last night.

Downing made a couple poor decisions, too. DeJong and Serville did a decent job, but also made some poor defensive zone decisions. Part of that was the Ferris forecheck and part of that was the frustration trying to break the neutral zone trap. It seems that everyone knows Michigan's d-zone cycling patterns and has a gameplan to forecheck on it. The problem with d-zone or neutral zone turnovers is that the forwards can't back check as effectively.

Claire was my issue last night- he seems confused when he had the puck. Instead of making a good play- or ANY play, he does a gentle dump up the boards to nobody, which was the turnover that lead to goal 2. And then there was the time where he and Sinelli traded the puck back and forth, even though Sinelli was covered. It was almost as if Claire expected Sinelli to do something with the puck, and didn't want to do anything. that play was a 1 on 2 deep, which should have been an easy break out, but ended up with Ferris getting the puck back and putting pressure.

That pairing seems very questionable.

[5mn_Major]

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Good game. The first period was Ferris...primarily just from a scoring chances standpoint. It was funny the announcers didn't seem to feel the Ferris had the upper hand until they saw the shots on goal. Then all they could talk about was how dominating Ferris was in the first.

Michigan held the second...although Ferris still had some quality chances. IMO in the game overall, MI carried the puck a bit more and Ferris overall had the better of the chances. It will be interesting to see how Ferris fairs at Mariucci in the upcoming weeks...MI and MN have different play styles although both are full on aggressive.