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  • zoofer
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    Congrats to Mile Ayers on his hire to the BC coaching staff! Personally if it could've been any other team aside from the Screaming Eagles, it would go down easier but we know that BC recognized talent and there's no denying Ayers has it in spades! Best of luck Mike!

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  • Greg Ambrose
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    Originally posted by JB View Post
    I like Umile as a coach and note regularly to the Fire Umile crew be careful what you wish for, UNH is not the easiest place to coach college hockey and he has kept the program relevant.

    But that game didn't start well for UNH down 2-0 at the 25 minute mark. Some of that was Noeth making a mess (14 power plays in that game the calls were ridiculous - both ways) however some of that was UNH playing tight sloppy hockey. The rest of the game there were too many missed opportunities some was a hot goalie some was potentially the squeeze on the stick. In that game UNH was clearly the superior talent, but at the end not the superior team, I personally think somebody like Walsh that had the experience and been there before beats that Maine team 4-1 ish like UNH had done a month back. (it ended just over 10 minutes into single overtime)

    Look at the Hockey East Championship game the same year UNH was down 3-0 15 minutes in and 4-1 end of the first. Finally straightened things out in the 2nd and got that game to OT.

    In both those games to be within a bounce is great, fighting back in both to be tied and within that bounce is fantastic. A better start in those games and the bounce wouldn't have mattered.

    It appears to me that a decade later (far too long) UNH has finally started to learn how to play those games, since 2009 UND/BU regional into the last couple of years, they have not clearly been the superior talent but have been a tough out.



    Hopefully you all realize the rest is for fun ... Mike Ayers for President!
    Hate to rehas a game that is 14 years old, but the interference call on Haydar about 3 minutes into the game was horrendous. Sure, they put themselves in a hole, but they came back. Coaching have anything to do with that? On the other end, the HE semi in 2008 beyond horrendous, up 4-1 before the collapse. Umile was rightly blamed for that meltdown. I'm just saying that if he gets blamed for one, he should get a shout out for the other.

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  • Snively65
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    Originally posted by Felger View Post
    Can someone refresh my memory? Who was the captain of that 2007 team that folded down the stretch?
    Josh?

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  • Snively65
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    Originally posted by JB View Post


    Hey on that plan by 2022 UNH should have the big hardware... just 9 short years away...

    You Maroon-and-Golder's don't mind a Blue and White guy standing on the back bumper for a little while, do ya?
    I thought that Nick said earlier that this past season would bring the big hardware to UNH?

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  • Felger
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    Originally posted by JB View Post
    How about the 2006-07 or the 2007-08 UNH teams that came out oh so tight in the NCAAs to get bounced in the 1st round by lower seeds
    Can someone refresh my memory? Who was the captain of that 2007 team that folded down the stretch?

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  • JB
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    Originally posted by Greg Ambrose View Post
    You can criticize Umile for the '08 collapse, I really thought that team had a chance to win it all. But '99 is a different story. Maine and UNH (as well as BC) were pretty much equal that year. When you lose a game in double overtime, after you almost win it (John Sadowski), it's pretty hard to blame it on the coach or the players. Just a bounce of the puck. If you're going to do that, give Umile credit for winning HE in '03 (Ryan Whitney).
    I like Umile as a coach and note regularly to the Fire Umile crew be careful what you wish for, UNH is not the easiest place to coach college hockey and he has kept the program relevant.

    But that game didn't start well for UNH down 2-0 at the 25 minute mark. Some of that was Noeth making a mess (14 power plays in that game the calls were ridiculous - both ways) however some of that was UNH playing tight sloppy hockey. The rest of the game there were too many missed opportunities some was a hot goalie some was potentially the squeeze on the stick. In that game UNH was clearly the superior talent, but at the end not the superior team, I personally think somebody like Walsh that had the experience and been there before beats that Maine team 4-1 ish like UNH had done a month back. (it ended just over 10 minutes into single overtime)

    Look at the Hockey East Championship game the same year UNH was down 3-0 15 minutes in and 4-1 end of the first. Finally straightened things out in the 2nd and got that game to OT.

    In both those games to be within a bounce is great, fighting back in both to be tied and within that bounce is fantastic. A better start in those games and the bounce wouldn't have mattered.

    It appears to me that a decade later (far too long) UNH has finally started to learn how to play those games, since 2009 UND/BU regional into the last couple of years, they have not clearly been the superior talent but have been a tough out.



    Hopefully you all realize the rest is for fun ... Mike Ayers for President!
    Last edited by JB; 05-29-2013, 04:24 PM.

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  • New Hampshire 'Cats Fan
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  • Darius
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  • J.D.
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    Good lord, Darius...

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  • Nick Papagiorgio
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    Originally posted by Darius View Post
    How'd BC do in the post season this year? Just sayin'.
    Usually it's best to say something intelligent before using the "just sayin" phrase. Otherwise it just doesn't work.

    Just sayin'

    (see what I did there?)

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  • Darius
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    How'd BC do in the post season this year? Just sayin'.

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  • Greg Ambrose
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    Originally posted by JB View Post
    Too often under both UNH just didn't seem prepared the "right" way for the big game. My test is swap Umile and Walsh in 1999 and does the Umile coach Maine team win that game? How about the 2006-07 or the 2007-08 UNH teams that came out oh so tight in the NCAAs to get bounced in the 1st round by lower seeds would York have done better? There is something in that game prep history that leave UNH teams tight - may have been solved with the recent run of 1st round NCAA wins...

    In 3 to 5 years when Umile is ready to step down, Ayers will be ready to step in having been assistant coach for several HE tournament champs and at least 1 NCAA champ (based on York's run rate). This will make the UNH Admin (read budget) happy as the cost of a proven head coach is much higher than a 1st time head coach. Hopefully Ayers can bring with him that something that UNH's staff can't get across and can push UNH over the top.

    I just can't wait for the fall of 2018...
    You can criticize Umile for the '08 collapse, I really thought that team had a chance to win it all. But '99 is a different story. Maine and UNH (as well as BC) were pretty much equal that year. When you lose a game in double overtime, after you almost win it (John Sadowski), it's pretty hard to blame it on the coach or the players. Just a bounce of the puck. If you're going to do that, give Umile credit for winning HE in '03 (Ryan Whitney).

    I do like your fantasizing though. Looks like in a few short years we'll have all these alums to choose from I guess. Be careful for what you wish for. Let's see how any of these guys pan out, both on recruiting the players and coaching them up. Look at those alums who are already in the coaching ranks and tell me how they have produced.

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  • JB
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    Originally posted by Nick Papagiorgio View Post
    Whoa... slow down there.


    Hey on that plan by 2022 UNH should have the big hardware... just 9 short years away...

    You Maroon-and-Golder's don't mind a Blue and White guy standing on the back bumper for a little while, do ya?

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  • Nick Papagiorgio
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    Originally posted by JB View Post
    Ayers to BC looks like a fantastic move for UNH...

    Ayers gets to learn at the elbow of the current master of college hockey. Ayers gets to see how things are done at BC and a different way to operate.

    All the repect in the world to Holt and now Umile but what they both do hasn't shown a consistent way to get it done. Too often under both UNH just didn't seem prepared the "right" way for the big game. My test is swap Umile and Walsh in 1999 and does the Umile coach Maine team win that game? How about the 2006-07 or the 2007-08 UNH teams that came out oh so tight in the NCAAs to get bounced in the 1st round by lower seeds would York have done better? There is something in that game prep history that leave UNH teams tight - may have been solved with the recent run of 1st round NCAA wins...

    In 3 to 5 years when Umile is ready to step down, Ayers will be ready to step in having been assistant coach for several HE tournament champs and at least 1 NCAA champ (based on York's run rate). This will make the UNH Admin (read budget) happy as the cost of a proven head coach is much higher than a 1st time head coach. Hopefully Ayers can bring with him that something that UNH's staff can't get across and can push UNH over the top.

    I just can't wait for the fall of 2018...
    Whoa... slow down there.

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  • JB
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    Ayers to BC looks like a fantastic move for UNH...

    Ayers gets to learn at the elbow of the current master of college hockey. Ayers gets to see how things are done at BC and a different way to operate.

    All the repect in the world to Holt and now Umile but what they both do hasn't shown a consistent way to get it done. Too often under both UNH just didn't seem prepared the "right" way for the big game. My test is swap Umile and Walsh in 1999 and does the Umile coach Maine team win that game? How about the 2006-07 or the 2007-08 UNH teams that came out oh so tight in the NCAAs to get bounced in the 1st round by lower seeds would York have done better? There is something in that game prep history that leave UNH teams tight - may have been solved with the recent run of 1st round NCAA wins...

    In 3 to 5 years when Umile is ready to step down, Ayers will be ready to step in having been assistant coach for several HE tournament champs and at least 1 NCAA champ (based on York's run rate). This will make the UNH Admin (read budget) happy as the cost of a proven head coach is much higher than a 1st time head coach. Hopefully Ayers can bring with him that something that UNH's staff can't get across and can push UNH over the top.

    I just can't wait for the fall of 2018...

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