UNH Wildcats 2012-2013 Postseason Thread

[smitre]

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I will never be confused with being a hockey scout but I hope TVR stays one more year for his sake.

[CrazedUNHfan]

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And a likely early departure

Can I ask if you have any reason to imply this besides the fact that he was first team Hockey East? If I were to guess I would say that he leaves after next year but I am not in any inner circles that would have any inside information on this. I think that TVR needs at least one more year for him to be physically ready for the next level. He is extremely smart with the puck but I don't think he has the top end speed or the strength to compete with the bigger guys in the NHL. That may be my bias in hoping that he will stay and keep playing here at UNH where he will be a huge part of the team.

[i'zonprize]

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http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=99552

Here's a reason not to jump early.. at any time. Liked Blake a ton, think TvR brings more to the table-- but, still what's to lose by staying? Although, in Kessel's defense, I believe he was about ot lose his 'drafted' status when he left.

[Chuck Murray]

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http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=99552

Here's a reason not to jump early.. at any time. Liked Blake a ton, think TvR brings more to the table-- but, still what's to lose by staying? Although, in Kessel's defense, I believe he was about ot lose his 'drafted' status when he left.

How about the example of Derek Bekar, who I'm positive would have put UNH over the top in '98/'99:

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=27656

[JB]

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Basically if your name isn't:

James vanRiemsdyk
Daniel Winnik
Andy Brickley
Bob Miller
Rod Langway

and you left UNH early it was some level of not great.

There maybe a few more in there but not many.

[Jacques "Rabbit" Poriveau]

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Basically if your name isn't:

James vanRiemsdyk
Daniel Winnik
Andy Brickley
Bob Miller

and you left UNH early it was some level of not great.

There maybe a few more in there but not many.

I wit you mon ami mais only to a pointe, eh? So d'udder guy who not ave it grate when de lefted early, what would one two more year at UNHs ave did pour dem? I tinking it still not go grate mais juste 2 year lateur, eh?

Da ting dat get forgotted specially in a tred like dis is dis. Zey hole life what dese guy been dreaming bout ? Playing at UNHs? Non, playing in d'NHL. All alongs da dreem beened dat. So when dat ting dey been tinking bout pour 10 year finally rite in fronte of dem c'est tres TRES difficile to say non, den you adding da monie on eet et eet au revoir Durham merci pour da fun mais I gone. U cant blame dem

Et add Rods Langway to zee liste, eh

[JB]

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I wit you mon ami mais only to a pointe, eh? So d'udder guy who not ave it grate when de lefted early, what would one two more year at UNHs ave did pour dem?

Two years closer to a degree for when that NHL cup of coffee is empty. I understand it is hard to realistically look at and wait on dreams but hope they would seak out wise counsel before going through that one way door.

Et add Rods Langway to zee liste, eh

On Rod Langway: I had forgotten he didn't play all 4 years, in my defense he played before my memory of UNH hockey starts - my first UNH memory was in 79 in the Garden. Yes he should be on the list - I went back and added him. Funny side note he was at UNH to play football (linebacker) and walked on at hockey - at least that is the story I have been told.

[Darius]

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I have to agree with The “Rabbit”. A few years back I had a casual conversation with a man whose daughter dated a UNH player so I got the scoop on another player who had just left early. He received a $600K signing bonus and I assume a decent salary since he went to the AHL and has since been there mostly with a little NHL time. From talking to people close to Manchester Monarchs players those guys, some of them anyway, make a very decent living.

If I were part way through college and someone offered me $600K, a decent salary, a job in my chosen field where I would be noticed (good or bad) by those at the top of my profession AND be able to complete my education, it would be a no brainer to leave.

[sonar]

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I just read the Quinn interview headlining the USCHO site ... and when I compare the content to UNH ... and I search my internal landscape .... all that surfaces is sadness.

[Greg Ambrose]

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Basically if your name isn't:

James vanRiemsdyk
Daniel Winnik
Andy Brickley
Bob Miller
Rod Langway

and you left UNH early it was some level of not great.

There maybe a few more in there but not many.

I'm glad you mentioned those names since there are so many others who left early and had to regret it. I was just discussing the TVR question the other day and comparing it to Blake Kessel. Leaving aside the fact that Blake left after his junior year for obvious reasons, TVR and his advisors should ask themselves these questions when comparing - are you as big as Blake Kessel? Are you as physical as Blake Kessel? Do you have the speed to compensate for your slight frame? Although clever offensively at the D1 level, do you think might have to step it up a couple of notches to compete in the NHL or even AHL? And are you physically ready to take on the rigors of an 82 game schedule? If he asked me, I'd say no to all those questions. At this point TVR is a very nice college player. He does a lot of things well. But if thinks he's ready for the pros, he should be prepared for the ECHL/AHL merry go round version.

[Jacques "Rabbit" Poriveau]

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but hope they would seak out wise counsel before going through that one way door.

One way door? Pourquoi? Assuming you a studente en goode standing - et eef you not, den dis hole conversation pointeless anyway, eh - why you can not come back someday?

[Jacques "Rabbit" Poriveau]

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I'm glad you mentioned those names since there are so many others who left early and had to regret it. I was just discussing the TVR question the other day and comparing it to Blake Kessel. Leaving aside the fact that Blake left after his junior year for obvious reasons, TVR and his advisors should ask themselves these questions when comparing - are you as big as Blake Kessel? Are you as physical as Blake Kessel? Do you have the speed to compensate for your slight frame? Although clever offensively at the D1 level, do you think might have to step it up a couple of notches to compete in the NHL or even AHL? And are you physically ready to take on the rigors of an 82 game schedule? If he asked me, I'd say no to all those questions. At this point TVR is a very nice college player. He does a lot of things well. But if thinks he's ready for the pros, he should be prepared for the ECHL/AHL merry go round version.

Deed you miss Darius poste? Juste asking.

Et ECHL/AHL eez muche higheur level of hockey den D1, so eef you ave what eet take to play en NHL eet gonna develope fasteur der, non?

[Darius]

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I just read the Quinn interview headlining the USCHO site ... and when I compare the content to UNH ... and I search my internal landscape .... all that surfaces is sadness.

Probably a good idea to not read BC, MN, UND, MI articles either . UNH will never have the financial, institutional support or length and magnitude of hockey tradition that these schools do. That we compete with BU and similar programs is a credit to our program.

Reading the piece, I did feel a hint of resignation.

[JB]

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One way door? Pourquoi? Assuming you a studente en goode standing - et eef you not, den dis hole conversation pointeless anyway, eh - why you can not come back someday?

One way door on playing college hockey and getting a portion of there education for "free". Most certainly they could come back on their own dime. If you are one of the few to get a $600k signing bonus I wouldn't blame them particularly if they invested a large portion of that initial lump some and then live of the player salary. That would seem a wise life choice. I honestly feel bad for the guys that leave and get stuck below the AHL level. Seems a poor choice and the NCAA rules leave these kids no flexibility with hard choices.

[JB]

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Another ramble the Chuck's questions started...

This leads me to looking forward.

If nobody goes early I think this year could be a stepping stone. The points by senior forwards is not huge to overcome (Henrion 4th, Block 5th, Pavelski 17th, Burke 20th) 37 goals, 24 assists. Of the 4 only Block regularly played on the top 2 lines. Some of that was injury to Burke (I really feel bad for him) and some because Henrion fit so well on the third line.

Hopefully Tyler Kelleher can be a top 6 forward impact freshman and pot some goals. This team struggled with goal scoring at the end of the year. Scoring as well as Tyler has the last 2 years against both USHL and College competition can’t hurt. I think you have to hope some of this year’s freshman step-up as I am not sure Poturalski or McNicholas (if he comes in) will help much on the scoring sheet. But many of the freshman got playing time as Umile (uncharacteristically) rotated the lineup a bunch.

The D-men Hardowa and Kostolansky had issues the longer the season went and the point totals are not a big concern for me. Hardowa was the 3rd best point scorer by one assist over Agosta and had significantly more PP time. Kostolansky had 10 assists but something tells me Pesce will take a big offensive step forward next year. Pesce’s history doesn’t show a ton of offense but he just handles the puck so well I have a hard time not seeing the assist number jump.

Quast in limited playing time seems serviceable, 3 GP and -2 isn’t great but at 6-4 215 hopefully year 2 is better. He has some more size that UNH could use.

In all this last year wasn’t bad for a one I figured to be down. If you told me at the beginning of the year UNH ends back in the NCAAs win their 1st game and be down 1-0 with 10 minutes to go in the 2nd NCAA game I would have taken it based on what I thought would happen. It is a bummer such a good chance slipped past, but I honestly think they will be better next year – enough better who knows.

As for Captain Knodel seems a steady hard worker and from where I sit I would give him the C but I don’t sit in the room…