tUMD @ UMTC : The in-state rivalry revisited!

[Stauber1]

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UMD played far better in the overtime aside from 45 seconds at about the 3 min mark.

You mean they had the better of the play while on the man advantage?

I think last night was a very even game, probably the most even I've seen all year. Could have gone either way.
As far as the Gophers, there were some real good things and some real bad things. I thought the effort was very good. Despite what was said in the above post, I thought they showed some great grit and willingness to get their noses dirty in front of the net in the offensive end.
Not good: passing was again atrocious. Decision making was slow, and cost them (credit to UMD on that, the Bulldogs played very high-pressure all game and gave the Gophers no time to get comfortable in the offensive end). Defensively looked pretty weak (looking at Fischer, he was directly involved/at fault for 3 of the UMD goals). And that 4th goal....you just can't let that kind of play occur, especially with 12 seconds left in overtime.
Honestly, this Gopher team is not far off. But they need to stop bleeding points and not put themselves in too deep a hole. I really was hoping to come into tonight without it feeling like a must win....c'est la vie.

[The Rube]

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Applause! Applause! This is my exact feeling.

Other examples of fluke goals: Wes Walz getting checked into the net with the puck in his breezers. Or an own goal on a delayed penalty or something. Something where your team is not generating offense. If a team is in front of the net putting the puck toward the goalie, it's nothing to be dismissed.

Just because the goalie is fooled or not expecting something (i.e. the David Fischer Special) doesn't make it a fluke. It doesn't have to be a perfect pretty bang-bang-bang goal for me to acknowledge it. If we all waited for perfect goals, we'd be waiting a long long time... and we hate it when our teams are trying to get "too cute" or "too fancy with the puck" or waste time waiting for the perfect highlight reel setup.

Brent did consider the 2nd goal to be a fluke, I should mention that. And then he admitted based on that it should be a tie.

And I'm not looking for the bang-bang play. But I just dismiss Fisher specials (that was a textbook fluke goal, IMO). Now, say it was shot from the circle, and it goes off a stick/shoulder/leg/whatever of a d-man in front of the net (like we've seen so many times), well, that just happens. Is that semantics? Sure, if you want to call it that, it is.

And thank you for backing me up on that MN 2nd goal thing, RWD.

[Runninwiththedogs]

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Not good: passing was again atrocious. Decision making was slow, and cost them (credit to UMD on that, the Bulldogs played very high-pressure all game and gave the Gophers no time to get comfortable in the offensive end).

This was painfully obvious. The Gophers could have killed us if they had been quicker to make plays.

[Runninwiththedogs]

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And I'm not looking for the bang-bang play. But I just dismiss Fisher specials (that was a textbook fluke goal, IMO).

See, now, you might have a problem here. Because maybe they watched a bunch of tape of Fischer and that whole thing was planned!

[The Rube]

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See, now, you might have a problem here. Because maybe they watched a bunch of tape of Fischer and that whole thing was planned!

The sad thing is......that makes sense.

[gordwiser]

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Sorry, I didn't read back far enough to see you said the second goal was a fluke. My feeling is just that MN doesn't do enough to give themselves the chances for what some people would consider fluke goals. The more I watch these games, the less inclination I have to say a team won by luck. It just seems to even out for everyone in the end... didn't mean to patronize you on that point.

MN didn't play poorly, they played average... and I don't see how that D is going to sustain protection game in and game out. I expected them to battle for the 2nd-4th spots in the league, whereas now I think they battle for the 4th-7th spot. Schroeder can light it up, he also gets pushed off the puck quite easily in the corners. Budish will be a force, he's too inconsistant right now.

No doubt, that was one of the most consistant games the Gophers have played this year. I agree they did a lot of things better, and the PP looked tons better. Are they capable of consistantly playing at a higher level? I'm not so sure.

[Biddco]

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I wonder how many gopher fans will flick me off tonight.

I hope the Bulldogs play better and we can get some more points!

Go Bulldogs!

[The Rube]

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I wonder how many gopher fans will flick me off tonight.

I hope the Bulldogs play better and we can get some more points!

Go Bulldogs!

Give 'em the finger back. Unless it's done in fun, I have no use for that. Even if it's directed at you.

And Gord, no worries. I'll take my lumps of defeat like a man; I'm not jumping ship.

[SiouxTechie]

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I'm a big fan of whenever the Gophers lose, especially at home!. So thank you Bulldogs. Let's see another Gopher loss tonight!

Go Bulldogs (man I hate sayin that :P)

[InebriatedMike]

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I wonder how many gopher fans will flick me off tonight.

I hope the Bulldogs play better and we can get some more points!

Go Bulldogs!

When we went out to Colorado Springs with Burb and Co some little old 50 year old woman gave us the finger as we did the "Beat the traffic" cheer

[goldy_331]

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I wonder how many gopher fans will flick me off tonight.

I'll be happy to oblige, what do you look like?

[ScoobyDoo]

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My how the mighty have fallen when their fans start counting up "fluke" vs "non-fluke" goals, then stating that their team "won" in the "non-fluke" goal category. Congratulations - I'm sure you were smiling as widely as tDon was on the post-game interview.

That being said, tDogs played poorly last night. I look for a better perfomance tonight.

I wasn't smiling, and I DO NOT, ABSOLUTELY DO NOT prescribe to the fluke-non-fluke goal theory to describe wins, losses, and moral victories.

[The Rube]

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I'll be happy to oblige, what do you look like?

Look for a Ginger Kid with a straight-brimmed baseball hat, hanging out with two midgets.

[The Rube]

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Congrats on the win tonight, tUMD. You played tough and beat us square up.

[Mo-Tay]

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Let's face facts:
1. gophers are just not that good.
2. NHL draft picks are overrated.
3. too many prima donnas.
4. They don't get any of these top high school recruits to do a year of juniors, so they just can't play with the big boys.
5. Lou Chia is past his glory years. The only teams he won with were guys that the previous coaches recruited. Maybe he was never a good coach.
6. Bulldogs have more skill, more heart, as do most of the other WCHA teams.
7. Their fans are mostly bandwagon types, not true hockey fans
8. In line for a 7th place finish.

Skeeter Skeeter Greezy Grimy Goldy Guts Eater, you may be right on all accounts! Except # 7....I drink the kool-aid every week.

I hate it when your mostly right.