Fire Mike Eaves?

[wjefwhite]

Re: Fire Mike Eaves?

Isn't the 09-10 attendance figure skewed by having 55,000 home attendance for the Camp Randall game?

Yes, attendance is down but youve got an apple in with those oranges...

Say what?

[GB Puck Fan]

Say what?

The 15,000+ figure is inflated because of the home game at Camp Randall. The other years cited don't have that anomaly, therefore you are comparing apples and oranges.

[joeyv]

Re: Fire Mike Eaves?

Long hiatus for me. I can no longer remain silent. Eaves must go...period. I am tired of games, low octane offense, and talk of "hard work".

Wisconsin Hockey: Disaster at the Door.

[Chuck Schwartz]

Re: Fire Mike Eaves?

Long hiatus for me. I can no longer remain silent. Eaves must go...period. I am tired of games, low octane offense, and talk of "hard work".

Wisconsin Hockey: Disaster at the Door.

Wisconsin Hockey: You know things are bad when joeyv comes out of retirement

[joeyv]

Wisconsin Hockey: You know things are bad when joeyv comes out of retirement

I am officially on the regime change bus. The talent is there...but talent has to have the latitude to be creative and not just conform to a system. Eaves has not shown the ability to adjust...and kids are not going to come if they know eaves is going to stifle them.

Wisconsin Hockey: It IS Bad.

[Hammy]

Re: Fire Mike Eaves?

I am officially on the regime change bus. The talent is there...but talent has to have the latitude to be creative and not just conform to a system. Eaves has not shown the ability to adjust...and kids are not going to come if they know eaves is going to stifle them.

Wisconsin Hockey: It IS Bad.

Good to see you alive and well. Even if the topic isn't pleasant for you.

[joeyv]

Good to see you alive and well. Even if the topic isn't pleasant for you.

Scott...thanks. It's been a very busy couple of years. Very frustrated with the direction of the program.

Wisconsin Hockey: Alive but not Well.

[Greyeagle]

Re: Fire Mike Eaves?

Good to see you alive and well. Even if the topic isn't pleasant for you.

Ditto.

[gwhinwi]

Re: Fire Mike Eaves?

Isn't the 09-10 attendance figure skewed by having 55,000 home attendance for the Camp Randall game?

Yes, attendance is down but youve got an apple in with those oranges...

If you take out the Michigan game, the 2009-10 season still averages 13049.15, and the low game for that year, attendance-wise, was 11,225.

No game, for the entire 2012-13 season has even hit that number yet. That's a very large drop off in attendance in 3 seasons, but let's go further back...

2008-2009 - Average attendance - 13,785
2007-2008 - Average attendance - 14,133
2006-2007 - Average attendance - 14,430

That is over $100,000 per game in revenue lost on ticket sales alone. Not to mention merchandise and food and drink.

It's clear that something has to change, because you can't keep losing money like this. Fans expect better out of a program like this and there is just no light at the end of the tunnel right now.

[joeyv]

Ditto.

Hey Sean. How u doin? In NY for giants/pack tonite and checked the uw scores...Christ what a disgrace.

Wisconsin Hockey: Go Pack Go.

[GB Puck Fan]

Re: Fire Mike Eaves?

It's clear that something has to change, because you can't keep losing money like this. Fans expect better out of a program like this and there is just no light at the end of the tunnel right now.

The question becomes what is the definition of "losing money"?

If the hockey team is still profitable - or, to put it another way - if it is meeting budget expectations, then the decrease in attendnance may not be alarming to the bean counters.

Is attendance down? Yes. And I don't think anyone thinks that's a good thing, either from a budget standpoint or from an atmosphere point of view. What we don't have here (to my knowledge) is an understanding of 'tolerance' on a budget side. If the budget is for 9,000 per game (with above that being 'gravy') then this line of thinking may not yet advance the argument of those wanting Eaves dismissed.

[bucky15]

Re: Fire Mike Eaves?

The question becomes what is the definition of "losing money"?

If the hockey team is still profitable - or, to put it another way - if it is meeting budget expectations, then the decrease in attendnance may not be alarming to the bean counters.

Is attendance down? Yes. And I don't think anyone thinks that's a good thing, either from a budget standpoint or from an atmosphere point of view. What we don't have here (to my knowledge) is an understanding of 'tolerance' on a budget side. If the budget is for 9,000 per game (with above that being 'gravy') then this line of thinking may not yet advance the argument of those wanting Eaves dismissed.

I think you are correct. Barry doesn't want to pay for two head coach's wages, so unless attendance drops to 6k and the team only wins less then 10 games nothing will change until his contract is up. If you want to make a difference cancel your tickets and stay at home and watch the game or find something else to do in the winter on Friday and Saturday night from 7-9:30 pm. That is tough to say and do, but what is on the ice at this moment is a joke. Also, Eaves post game comments are a joke after each game about the team showing improvements. They have taken one period off each game and have no offense to make up for the period they decide to just go through the motions.

[solovsfett]

Re: Fire Mike Eaves?

I think you are correct. Barry doesn't want to pay for two head coach's wages, so unless attendance drops to 6k and the team only wins less then 10 games nothing will change until his contract is up. If you want to make a difference cancel your tickets and stay at home and watch the game or find something else to do in the winter on Friday and Saturday night from 7-9:30 pm. That is tough to say and do, but what is on the ice at this moment is a joke. Also, Eaves post game comments are a joke after each game about the team showing improvements. They have taken one period off each game and have no offense to make up for the period they decide to just go through the motions.

"I told the kids we're beginning to turn the boat"

yeah, again moral victories don't count. Engblom had to be embarrassed for that team's performance, I'm sorry he witnessed that. And stop with the metaphors and anecdotes Coach, the kids have to be tired of it.

[solovsfett]

Re: Fire Mike Eaves?

Long hiatus for me. I can no longer remain silent. Eaves must go...period. I am tired of games, low octane offense, and talk of "hard work".

Wisconsin Hockey: Disaster at the Door.

Joeyv - glad to see you back!

anyone know if Eric Hybert is still lurking here at all?

[bucky15]

Re: Fire Mike Eaves?

"I told the kids we're beginning to turn the boat"

yeah, again moral victories don't count. Engblom had to be embarrassed for that team's performance, I'm sorry he witnessed that. And stop with the metaphors and anecdotes Coach, the kids have to be tired of it.

As is this fan.