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  • Snively65
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    Originally posted by scoreboard View Post
    Zoofer, I usually like what you have to say. Given that, UNH has choked over the years. Do you believe that Maine, RPI, Minn-Duluth had bigger budgets than UNH? They have all won championships since UNH became relevant. Even tonite they are tied against one of the lowest ranked HE teams at home. Budgets aren't their problem. They don't, and haven't ever, had a killer attitude. See BC.
    make that "were tied"

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  • scoreboard
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    Originally posted by zoofer View Post
    Like 1982, I agree with the gist of what C Murray says but to put things in context I'll liken the discussion to having just heard Barry Melrose talk about the Blackhawks chances of keeping their run going on PTI, " given the way our game goes, injuries, puck bounces, ref calls anything can come into play...." We all love hockey for how tough it is to win thru So many variables....does UNH choke every year? I say I'm not happy that we have no NC but no way do we choke! Am I proud that year in, year out we compete with schools who have unlimited athletic facilities and budget, you're GD straight!! When the university as a whole is given $49 million for operation and Michigan's athletic budget alone is $98 million, then yes I'm proud of UNH every year!!
    If you don't think that any of this has an effect on how a team produces on the ice, well then why all the conference changes within college sports to maximize the TV buck?
    As I've always said, enjoy the journey not just where you end up.....
    Zoofer, I usually like what you have to say. Given that, UNH has choked over the years. Do you believe that Maine, RPI, Minn-Duluth had bigger budgets than UNH? They have all won championships since UNH became relevant. Even tonite they are tied against one of the lowest ranked HE teams at home. Budgets aren't their problem. They don't, and haven't ever, had a killer attitude. See BC.

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  • zoofer
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    Like 1982, I agree with the gist of what C Murray says but to put things in context I'll liken the discussion to having just heard Barry Melrose talk about the Blackhawks chances of keeping their run going on PTI, " given the way our game goes, injuries, puck bounces, ref calls anything can come into play...." We all love hockey for how tough it is to win thru So many variables....does UNH choke every year? I say I'm not happy that we have no NC but no way do we choke! Am I proud that year in, year out we compete with schools who have unlimited athletic facilities and budget, you're GD straight!! When the university as a whole is given $49 million for operation and Michigan's athletic budget alone is $98 million, then yes I'm proud of UNH every year!!
    If you don't think that any of this has an effect on how a team produces on the ice, well then why all the conference changes within college sports to maximize the TV buck?
    As I've always said, enjoy the journey not just where you end up.....

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  • unh1982
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    Originally posted by C-H-C View Post
    According to Al Pike, Greg Burke and Jeff Silengo are still out with concussions and Nick Sorkin (hand injury) will play.
    any time table on silengo.

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  • C-H-C
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    Originally posted by unh1982 View Post
    does anyone know how the cats stand with injuries heading into the last two weeks ...........
    According to Al Pike, Greg Burke and Jeff Silengo are still out with concussions and Nick Sorkin (hand injury) will play.

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  • unh1982
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    sorry at work got cut off......

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  • unh1982
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    Originally posted by Chuck Murray View Post
    We have a winner, right here.

    For those who say UMass Amherst and UMaine are "playing for their playoff lives" ... there is a reason they're down where they are, and it's because they're not as good as the top six teams. No one is saying they won't be motivated, but why should that make any difference against an equally-motivated, more talented UNH team on its home ice?? The only variable there is IF UNH isn't equally-motivated as their opposition. And for the life of me, with two weekends left in the regular season, and nothing but elimination games facing them from that point forward ... why wouldn't/shouldn't UNH be at least equally motivated as lower tier opponents, who realistically have very little chance of getting past the HE Quarters, much less winning postseason hardware??

    A UNH team that takes at least 7 points these next two weekends tells me there is hope and a legit shot at playing for postseason honors at some point.

    A UNH team that finishes 3rd place or lower in the regular season could fall in the HE Quarters again, and not even make it to Boston. Even if they get past the HE Quarters from that position, does anyone really think they have a legit shot at taking the HE Tourney, or later on even advancing out of their (host) NCAA bracket?

    I want to believe this year is "the year", but the win one, lose/tie one pattern of the last two months does not fill me with optimism. And if they can't be expected to win some very winnable games against lower-tier opposition AT HOME these next two weekends, how can we expect them to beat BC, UMass-Lowell, PC, BU or Merrimack in future elimination games?? From here on out, it's all about desire and focus, and if UNH can't find both quickly, their opponents will, and another post-season will end without any hardware, most likely early in the weekend of the NCAA Regionals in their home state, as we've seen happen a few times in the past.

    I still do think UNH has outperformed their preseason expectations, and I do give them a ton of credit for turning things around from last season. But that's just a consolation prize, and a month from now, no one will care about "moral victories". But somehow, factors have conspired to give them a chance to do a whole lot more than outperform preseason expectations. I'm sure the coaches and players at a few other HE schools are thinking the same thing right now, so the sooner UNH shows it's up for the fight, the better I'll feel about their postseason chances. The postseason is no place for a "soft" team to expect any success. JMHO.
    i agree with everything stated above , however I think maine might be a little better than there record indicates , but UNH should take7 out 8 points and win hockey east ... One could look at lowel 5 weeks ago , look at them now...

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  • Chuck Murray
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    Originally posted by goblue View Post
    Play each game to win, and make it a habit. As I've said before, you have to be hot, lucky, or both to win it all. Let's start with hot (which, quite frankly, we haven't been for a while now. There's no time like the present.) And as to 1982's point about UMass and Maine, sure, they'll be playing for their lives, but who won't be, come tourney time? Play with that mindset now. By the time we get to that point, I hope that UNH will be playing hungry hockey rather than scared hockey.
    We have a winner, right here.

    For those who say UMass Amherst and UMaine are "playing for their playoff lives" ... there is a reason they're down where they are, and it's because they're not as good as the top six teams. No one is saying they won't be motivated, but why should that make any difference against an equally-motivated, more talented UNH team on its home ice?? The only variable there is IF UNH isn't equally-motivated as their opposition. And for the life of me, with two weekends left in the regular season, and nothing but elimination games facing them from that point forward ... why wouldn't/shouldn't UNH be at least equally motivated as lower tier opponents, who realistically have very little chance of getting past the HE Quarters, much less winning postseason hardware??

    A UNH team that takes at least 7 points these next two weekends tells me there is hope and a legit shot at playing for postseason honors at some point.

    A UNH team that finishes 3rd place or lower in the regular season could fall in the HE Quarters again, and not even make it to Boston. Even if they get past the HE Quarters from that position, does anyone really think they have a legit shot at taking the HE Tourney, or later on even advancing out of their (host) NCAA bracket?

    I want to believe this year is "the year", but the win one, lose/tie one pattern of the last two months does not fill me with optimism. And if they can't be expected to win some very winnable games against lower-tier opposition AT HOME these next two weekends, how can we expect them to beat BC, UMass-Lowell, PC, BU or Merrimack in future elimination games?? From here on out, it's all about desire and focus, and if UNH can't find both quickly, their opponents will, and another post-season will end without any hardware, most likely early in the weekend of the NCAA Regionals in their home state, as we've seen happen a few times in the past.

    I still do think UNH has outperformed their preseason expectations, and I do give them a ton of credit for turning things around from last season. But that's just a consolation prize, and a month from now, no one will care about "moral victories". But somehow, factors have conspired to give them a chance to do a whole lot more than outperform preseason expectations. I'm sure the coaches and players at a few other HE schools are thinking the same thing right now, so the sooner UNH shows it's up for the fight, the better I'll feel about their postseason chances. The postseason is no place for a "soft" team to expect any success. JMHO.

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  • unh1982
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    does anyone know how the cats stand with injuries heading into the last two weeks ...........

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  • unh1982
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    where did that team go , they became to offensive minded and forgot what got them the # 1 ranking in the first place
    D E F E N S E . Ive been saying this for weeks . But i think this team has finally bought into this concept once again .

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  • Snively65
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    Originally posted by Darius View Post
    Defense wins championships.
    Exactly. If the Cats had continued to play team defense like I watched them play against Lowell, BU, and others in the first half of the season, the regular season championship would have been wrapped up a couple of weeks ago. Where did that team defense concept go since the Colorado trip? How can the Cats get it back? This team does not have a single player who can create offense or be that sniper goal scorer when needed. So, the only way that this team is going far in the post-season this year will be based on their support of one another on defense, in my opinion. And, of course, DeSmith cannot have any "off" games.

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  • unh1982
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    yes was thinking of making the drive up from providence , but might wait till next weeks game ... FCS both nights works for me.

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  • wildcatdc
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    Originally posted by unh1982 View Post
    I see it the other way both umass and maine will be fighting for there lives , to try and secure a spot in playoffs . i think they oppose en even more difficult out .
    Agreed 100%. While we aren't playing the top teams, and we're at home, Mass and Maine have PLENTY to play for, and not much to lose. The mitigating factor is that I can't see us being complacent at ALL, because...

    1. We've been extremely mediocre since Colorado, and the team and Umile seem to know it
    2. The HEA RS championship is now FIRMLY within reach, and at the same time, a LONG way from being a "fait accompli"
    3. We know what is at stake for our opponents the next two weeks

    etc. etc.

    I hope the Whitt has some energy. Was thinking about coming in for the weekend, but various duties call here in Minneapolis. Will watch on FCS.

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  • unh1982
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    Originally posted by e.cat View Post
    I agree with your point and to add to it if I might; I'm sure Maine would love nothing better than to kick our ***** all the way into the Oyster River and make us "swim with the fishes!!"

    I don't think it will be a cake walk but I like our chances in these games though.
    my point is also UNH might get up for one game , but seem to have difficulty elevating there game for a complete weekend. With that said Ive yet to see them win a must win game . All season long they had opportunity to pull a head . however when there backs are against the wall they do play passionate hockey and thats what they need for the next two weeks . question is will they get complacent like they always seem too.... I think any hockey east team this week is a tough out , just look at the parity this league has to offer. I exspect 3 wins and a tie , if we get that we are hockey east champs once again. The million dollar question will that happen , would also like to see them hang on to their 4 th in power ranking and get 1 seed , but thats many moons from now and probably wishfull thinking .

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  • e.cat
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    Originally posted by unh1982 View Post
    I see it the other way both umass and maine will be fighting for there lives , to try and secure a spot in playoffs . i think they oppose en even more difficult out .
    I agree with your point and to add to it if I might; I'm sure Maine would love nothing better than to kick our ***** all the way into the Oyster River and make us "swim with the fishes!!"

    I don't think it will be a cake walk but I like our chances in these games though.

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