Big Ten Hockey Conference

[UMICH]

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...what's the point of the internet if you can't complain about things you have no control over?

Porn, duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[alfablue]

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It's the off season and this is a message board full of bored, passionate fans who are witnessing a major change in the focus of their passion. What did you expect? Once the season rolls around this will die off a bit only to ramp up again next off season before the B1G actually starts. We all know it's going to happen but what's the point of the internet if you can't complain about things you have no control over?

Had the horse died anytime in the last 6 months, sure. But the B1G horse died a few years ago. For a conference that has so much potential for entertaining hockey, the gloomers and doomers here sure like to take the wind out of the sails.

(I now need to think of a bunch of cliche's to post, I suppose)

[5mn_Major]

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I stand by what I said, and I also stand by the notion that the BTHC was happening independent of what anyone else said.

Your really going out on a limb on that one. Not one person has said that Alverez could launch the BTHC by himself.

The desired effect for ending the showcase was to start including OSU on the non-con schedule more and to not continually bury B1G non-con games on a holiday weekend.

That said, all of Barry's statements surrounding the final showcase had to do with getting OSU into the mix.

You're making it sound like Barry was just kind of watching without any bias except for a concern for OSU. Definitely not the case...he was pushing for the BTHC all along:

Plan for Big Ten hockey league iced in summer of ’09

A series of high-level discussions took place this summer about the creation of a new men's hockey league featuring the five Big Ten Conference members that sponsor the sport.

UW senior associate athletic director Sean Frazier, who oversees the men's and women's hockey programs, said he and athletic director Barry Alvarez share "major concerns'' about the overall health and direction of men's hockey at the NCAA Division I level.

Alvarez believes the sport needs to be more regionalized, especially as it relates to programs in the CCHA and WCHA. Both leagues have schools that stretch from the Eastern time zone to Alaska. They also have diverse memberships, with schools whose other athletic programs are classified from NCAA Division I to I-AA to Division III, as well as carrying varied academic requirements.

Ohio State officials are openly supportive of the idea of a Big Ten affiliation. Calls to administrators at Michigan and Michigan State were not returned, but multiple sources around college hockey say they brought open minds to the summer talks.

Whatever momentum the initiative seemed to have gained, though, apparently slowed because Minnesota athletic director Joel Maturi spoke out strongly against it.

[JDUBBS1280]

Your really going out on a limb on that one. Not one person has said that Alverez could launch the BTHC by himself.



You're making it sound like Barry was just kind of watching without any bias except for a concern for OSU. Definitely not the case...he was pushing for the BTHC all along:

Plan for Big Ten hockey league iced in summer of ’09

A series of high-level discussions took place this summer about the creation of a new men's hockey league featuring the five Big Ten Conference members that sponsor the sport.

UW senior associate athletic director Sean Frazier, who oversees the men's and women's hockey programs, said he and athletic director Barry Alvarez share "major concerns'' about the overall health and direction of men's hockey at the NCAA Division I level.

Alvarez believes the sport needs to be more regionalized, especially as it relates to programs in the CCHA and WCHA. Both leagues have schools that stretch from the Eastern time zone to Alaska. They also have diverse memberships, with schools whose other athletic programs are classified from NCAA Division I to I-AA to Division III, as well as carrying varied academic requirements.

Ohio State officials are openly supportive of the idea of a Big Ten affiliation. Calls to administrators at Michigan and Michigan State were not returned, but multiple sources around college hockey say they brought open minds to the summer talks.

Whatever momentum the initiative seemed to have gained, though, apparently slowed because Minnesota athletic director Joel Maturi spoke out strongly against it.

Everyone knows the real reason Barry pulled UW out of the Showcase had everything to do with pressuring Minnesota. Some people just aren't honest enough to admit it.

[5mn_Major]

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Everyone knows the real reason Barry pulled UW out of the Showcase had everything to do with pressuring Minnesota. Some people just aren't honest enough to admit it.

Timing is suspicious. The talks to advance the BTHC fell apart...and low and behold:

2010 will be final Showcase among 4 Big Ten schools
11/09

After this year's games at MSU and U-M and next year's stop in Minneapolis and Madison, Wis., the showcase will end after an 18-year run.

"My preference would be to play (Minnesota and Wisconsin) twice (each season),'' said Comley, who is not in favor of a Big Ten league at this point.

"We have one more year after this and that's it,'' MSU coach Rick Comley said. "Wisconsin did not want to extend the Showcase. They want to get Ohio State involved and they prefer a Big Ten Conference.''

[bronconick]

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Alvarez believes the sport needs to be more regionalized, especially as it relates to programs in the CCHA and WCHA. Both leagues have schools that stretch from the Eastern time zone to Alaska.

Oh yes, that worked out really well.

[ScoobyDoo]

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Oh yes, that worked out really well.

Yes. Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin, OSU, and MSU will have WAY less travel now that they're in the Big 10. It's a miracle how that worked out so well.

[bronconick]

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Yes. Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin, OSU, and MSU will have WAY less travel now that they're in the Big 10. It's a miracle how that worked out so well.

I went from 4 road trips that I could make by leaving work an hour or two early on a Friday in conference play to none. Definitely a bonus for your actual college hockey fans.

[Spartanforlife4]

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I went from 4 road trips that I could make by leaving work an hour or two early on a Friday in conference play to none. Definitely a bonus for your actual college hockey fans.

Seriously, what the hell was Alvarez talking about? It couldn't have been more regionalized. With the exception of the Alaska schools it was an exact East/West split.

[Tiggsy]

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Had the horse died anytime in the last 6 months, sure. But the B1G horse died a few years ago. For a conference that has so much potential for entertaining hockey, the gloomers and doomers here sure like to take the wind out of the sails.

(I now need to think of a bunch of cliche's to post, I suppose)

It's their own fault then for not launching the conference a year sooner. I still am suprised you expect everyone to just say okay and move on happily with the biggest shake up in colelge hockey, which is still over a year away. Sure there is some potentially entertaining hockey but lets not forget all the entertaining hockey that will be no more. Many great, regional rivalries ended. Not sure why the fact people are upset about that is still shocking. People accept it because there is nothing that can be done at this point, but no one has to like it. It will fade in time, but it's still pretty fresh since it hasn't happened yet.

[Gurtholfin]

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It's their own fault then for not launching the conference a year sooner. I still am suprised you expect everyone to just say okay and move on happily with the biggest shake up in colelge hockey, which is still over a year away. Sure there is some potentially entertaining hockey but lets not forget all the entertaining hockey that will be no more. Many great, regional rivalries ended. Not sure why the fact people are upset about that is still shocking. People accept it because there is nothing that can be done at this point, but no one has to like it. It will fade in time, but it's still pretty fresh since it hasn't happened yet.

I'm WAY over it. Can't wait, actually.

Thanks Uncle Barry!!!

[bigmrg74]

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Seriously, what the hell was Alvarez talking about? It couldn't have been more regionalized. With the exception of the Alaska schools it was an exact East/West split.

I think what Alvarez was saying was that Cocaine is a Hell of a Drug.

[Tiggsy]

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I'm WAY over it. Can't wait, actually.

Thanks Uncle Barry!!!

I guess someone has to push the first one over before the rest of the dominos fall. Way to be at the front of the line!

I went from 4 road trips that I could make by leaving work an hour or two early on a Friday in conference play to none. Definitely a bonus for your actual college hockey fans.

Barry must think we're all corpies with private jets that have no issues making these trips.

[JDUBBS1280]

I guess someone has to push the first one over before the rest of the dominos fall. Way to be at the front of the line!



Barry must think we're all corpies with private jets that have no issues making these trips.

Or he's just a brain dead scum bag???

[MUhawks628]

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I think what Alvarez was saying was that bath salts are a Hell of a Drug.

Fixed

nom nom nom.