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  • Fighting Sioux 23
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1-#59

    Originally posted by giwan View Post
    Side note it should be Greatest programs of all time #1- #60

    Other side note, is it really not up yet?
    Arizona State had not added its program when I started this iteration of the thread (The original was only #1-58, as Penn State had not added its program when I first finished the calculations). Rest assured, when this thread reaches its maximum posts, I will start a new thread correctly noting 60 programs.

    And I know...I'm a slacker. It typically takes me about a week or two to enter in the numbers and do the double-triple check to ensure accuracy. I should have the rankings ready probably a bit after Easter. I will likely be asking for a volunteer or two to help post the rankings similar to how previous rankings have been posted.

    All that being said, expect Denver to add a huge amount of points...similar to what North Dakota did last season. This year's DU squad was one of the most dominant teams of all-time. No question they are #4. Big question will be how close they got to Minnesota for #3.

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  • giwan
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1-#59

    Side note it should be Greatest programs of all time #1- #60

    Other side note, is it really not up yet?

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  • Fighting Sioux 23
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1-#59

    Originally posted by UMICH View Post
    Huh?
    The University of Denver Pioneers.

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  • UMICH
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1-#59

    Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    the Pios

    Huh?

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  • Fighting Sioux 23
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1-#59

    Originally posted by UMICH View Post
    Uggggghhhhhh....but I can't root for Notre Dame.
    Well, turns out it wouldn't have mattered.

    Denver's win should lock up the #1 spot for North Dakota, and should push the Pios back to #4.

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  • UMICH
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1-#59

    Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    I was just glancing at the numbers to see what effect certain teams winning the national championship this weekend would have on the rest of the field. One interesting possibility is that a Notre Dame national championship could leap Michigan over North Dakota for the #1 spot. Something to keep an eye out for if Notre Dame wins it all on Saturday.

    The race for #4 is going to be extremely tight as well. If DU wins a game this weekend, they will almost certainly take over the #4 spot. If not, DU likely gains ground on BC/BU, but will be just shy. BC and BU are going to be very, very close.

    A national title will put Harvard and Michigan Tech in a dead heat for the #10 spot, and it looks like Minnesota Duluth can jump as high as about 11th-12th if they hoist their second national championship.

    Notre Dame likely maxes out at 22nd, but could sneak in the top 20 if the results play out just right. Either way, they will be right on the cusp of the top 20 if they win their first national title.

    Good luck to Denver, Harvard, Minnesota Duluth, and Notre Dame today and, for those that advance, Saturday. I will be crunching the numbers as early as Saturday evening and hope to complete the post 2016-2017 rankings by Easter. I will post here when I'm done, and will likely ask for some help again in posting the results to this thread.
    Uggggghhhhhh....but I can't root for Notre Dame.

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  • Fighting Sioux 23
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1-#59

    I was just glancing at the numbers to see what effect certain teams winning the national championship this weekend would have on the rest of the field. One interesting possibility is that a Notre Dame national championship could leap Michigan over North Dakota for the #1 spot. Something to keep an eye out for if Notre Dame wins it all on Saturday.

    The race for #4 is going to be extremely tight as well. If DU wins a game this weekend, they will almost certainly take over the #4 spot. If not, DU likely gains ground on BC/BU, but will be just shy. BC and BU are going to be very, very close.

    A national title will put Harvard and Michigan Tech in a dead heat for the #10 spot, and it looks like Minnesota Duluth can jump as high as about 11th-12th if they hoist their second national championship.

    Notre Dame likely maxes out at 22nd, but could sneak in the top 20 if the results play out just right. Either way, they will be right on the cusp of the top 20 if they win their first national title.

    Good luck to Denver, Harvard, Minnesota Duluth, and Notre Dame today and, for those that advance, Saturday. I will be crunching the numbers as early as Saturday evening and hope to complete the post 2016-2017 rankings by Easter. I will post here when I'm done, and will likely ask for some help again in posting the results to this thread.
    Last edited by Fighting Sioux 23; 04-06-2017, 08:46 AM.

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  • UMICH
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1-#59

    Originally posted by UMICH View Post
    Whah.......... we knew that it was likely over but now it's official. Hopefully we can put together a good season with all of the kids we have coming in. Michigan basically has to reload every year so this won't seem extra difficult. Let's just hope who we are bringing in is as good as advertised. And of course the goalie situation...
    Well, it was. That was evident by our worst season since the early 80's? Wow that was ugly...

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  • Fighting Sioux 23
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1-#59

    Well, it is that time of year again, and I wanted to give a quick preview on how the NCAA Tournament may impact these rankings before the NCAA Tournament officially starts.

    In order of Pairwise Ranking:

    #1 - Denver

    Denver finished 6th in these rankings after last season, but the Pios have had a great season thus far. They won't be caught by Wisconsin for 6th position, and with a National Championship will almost certainly surpass both BC and BU for 4th place. DU won't be able to catch Minnesota for 3rd, but given their strong season this year, the Pioneers will be within another national title of surpassing the Gophers.

    #2 - Minnesota Duluth

    Duluth finished 16th in these rankings after last season, and is unlikely to be caught by anyone, with the possible exception of Providence. With a Frozen Four run, the Bulldogs will be within barking distance of Clarkson, and a trip to the National Title game likely will result in at least a 15th finish. If UMD wins the national title, they could jump as high as 11th, depending on what Cornell and Harvard do in the NCAA Tournament.

    #3 - Harvard

    Speaking of the Crimson, Harvard finished 14th in these rankings last season, and have put together a solid 2016-2017 campaign with both ECAC titles in hand. With a National Title, Harvard is a threat to crack the Top 10. A Frozen Four run and/or National Title game appearance is likely necessary to jump CC and perhaps LSSU.

    #4 - Minnesota

    The Gophers finished 3rd after last season's rankings, and they are in rankings purgatory as they cannot move up or down. With a National Title, Minnesota will find themselves just outside the Top 2 discussion. It would likely take a national title for either BU or DU for those schools to come close to Goldy.

    #5 - Massachusetts Lowell

    The Riverhawks finished 34th after last season, so they can make a big leap in these rankings depending on how far they can go. Moving up one spot is highly likely, and with a Frozen Four run, UML could crack the top 30. A National Title likely puts Lowell somewhere in the top 25.

    #6 - Western Michigan

    WMU finished 41st after last season. If the Broncos can finally get that elusive NCAA Tournament victory, they will likely push the top 40. A Frozen Four trip likely moves Western somewhere in the high-30s. A national title game appearance will likely boost the Broncos into the mid-30s, and a national championship could rocked them to the cusp of the Top 25.

    #7 - Boston University

    BU finished 5th after last season, and, like Denver, can finish no worse than 6th. A Frozen Four run would likely move the Terriers past arch-rival BC, and a National Title would guarantee a 4th finish.

    #8 - Union

    The Dutchmen finished 24th after last season, one of the biggest movers over the last five years. Union can move up a spot or two with a Frozen Four run, and would likely crack the Top 20 with a National Title. Barring a national title run from a team below them, it is unlikely that the Dutchmen will drop below the 24th spot, although they will always be #26 in our hearts.

    #9 - Penn State

    Penn State finished 56th after last season. Pedophile State University will almost certainly see a jump in the rankings based solely on their run this season. The Nittany Lions would push the Top 40 with a Frozen Four run, and could creep up to the top half of the rankings with a National Championship.

    #10 - North Dakota

    The Sioux finished 1st after last season, and will almost certainly remain on top after this season. North Dakota can pad its lead, and would likely put the top spot out of reach next season with a National Championship this season.

    #11 - Cornell

    Cornell finished 11th after last season. The Big Red can crack the top 10 with a Frozen Four run and a first round loss by Tech. Cornell can move past Maine as well with a National Title game appearance, but that will be as far as they can move this season. They are also at risk of being caught from behind if Harvard or Duluth make strong runs.

    #12 - Air Force

    The Falcons finished 44th after last season. Air Force has a chance to move up even with a first round loss, and could jump into the top 40 with a win or two in the Regionals. A Frozen Four birth likely would place the Academy somewhere in the mid- to upper-30, and a National Title would vault the Falcons into the top half of the rankings.

    #13 - Notre Dame

    The Irish came in at 27th after last season. With a Frozen Four birth, Notre Dame likely will crack the top 25, and could find itself on the edge of the top 20 with a national title.

    #14 - Providence

    The Friars finished last season 19th, and are looking for another miracle run ala 2015. PC can supplant New Hampshire for 18th with a Frozen Four birth, and would push Duluth for the 16th position with a National Title.

    #15 - Ohio State

    After last season, the Buckeyes came in at #35. OSU can move up a few spots with a regional final appearance, but it would likely take a National Title Game appearance to crack the top 30. A National Championship would put the Buckeyes within shouting distance of Union at #24.

    #16 - Michigan Tech

    The Huskies finished last season at #10. Tech could move up to #9 with a Frozen Four run, but is in danger of being caught by Cornell and Harvard if the Huskies slip up against Denver.

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  • UMICH
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1-#59

    Originally posted by Tipsy McStagger View Post
    Also, they are in the little six, so someone has to win the conference.
    You'd think....

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  • The Sicatoka
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1-#59

    Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
    It's all fun, but I want that 9th to tie Michigan.
    Why stop there?

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  • vizoroo
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1-#59

    Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
    It's all fun, but I want that 9th to tie Michigan.
    Rather have the 8th to pass BU/BC.

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  • Tipsy McStagger
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1-#59

    Originally posted by UMICH View Post
    Whah.......... we knew that it was likely over but now it's official. Hopefully we can put together a good season with all of the kids we have coming in. Michigan basically has to reload every year so this won't seem extra difficult. Let's just hope who we are bringing in is as good as advertised. And of course the goalie situation...
    Also, they are in the little six, so someone has to win the conference.

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  • UMICH
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1-#59

    Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    #1 – NORTH DAKOTA FIGHTING HAWKS

    Points: 506.80162 Points
    Points earned in 2015-2016: 45.7870 Points
    Points earned in past five seasons: 70.64102 Points
    Last Season Ranking: #2


    North Dakota put together one of the great seasons in college hockey history in 2015-2016, finishing the campaign with an impressive NCAA Tournament run knocking off two of the best programs in Michigan and Denver en route to the program's eighth national championship. UND lost a lot to graduation/early departure, as 2/3s of its vaunted "CBS Line" and blue line are gone. Of course, North Dakota returns top netminder Cam Johnson, and Hobey Baker candidate Brock Boeser along with a stellar incoming class, and the Fighting Hawks should put themselves into position to make another run at a national title. They will need to if they want to put any distance between themselves and Michigan for the #1 spot.


    #2 – MICHIGAN WOLVERINES

    Points: 505.14106 Points
    Points earned in 2015-2016: 8.9868 Points
    Points earned in past five seasons: 13.74876 Points
    Last Season Ranking: #1


    After maintaining the #1 ranking in every rendition of this list since its inception, the Wolverines have slipped to #2 after a strong 2015-2016 campaign where the program won the B1G tournament championship, and advanced to the Regional Finals before falling to the eventual national champions. Michigan lost most of its firepower from a season ago, including all three Hobey Baker finalists. However, the U of M will return Alex Kile and bring in five from the National Team Development Program to highlight an impressive Freshman class, which should help the Wolverines reload for 2016-2017 and try and reclaim the #1 spot.
    Whah.......... we knew that it was likely over but now it's official. Hopefully we can put together a good season with all of the kids we have coming in. Michigan basically has to reload every year so this won't seem extra difficult. Let's just hope who we are bringing in is as good as advertised. And of course the goalie situation...

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  • SJHovey
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    Originally posted by burd View Post
    Thanks again to FS and SF for all the work that goes into this. I can't imagine having the patience to do that.

    You are, of course, also responsible for turning a whole bunch of ordinarily kind, humble Nodaks into arrogant pryks. I don't know how anybody is going to be able to live with me until the F'hawks get swept at home.
    It's all fun, but I want that 9th to tie Michigan.

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