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  • LtPowers
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1-#59

    Originally posted by Snively65 View Post
    Thanks for the plots, much as I thought. I am not so sure about your take on the points formula, as it seems to be heavily weighted on participating in and winning the FF. Looks like a really smooth exponential except for teams 5 through 8?
    Yes, and I think that's misleading. On the logarithmic plot, it appears that the distance between, say, 8 and 9 is similar to the distance between 51 and 52. On a percentage basis, that's true, but points are awarded on a set scale, not a sliding scale. So #52 would have to do a lot less than #9 would to move up a rank. The only reason they appear similar on the log plot is because #52 hasn't done much in the past while #9 has.


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  • Snively65
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    Originally posted by LtPowers View Post
    Keep in mind that there's nothing about the formula that should result in anything exponential, so a logarithmic scale is probably misleading in some respect or another.


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    Thanks for the plots, much as I thought. I am not so sure about your take on the points formula, as it seems to be heavily weighted on participating in and winning the FF. Looks like a really smooth exponential except for teams 5 through 8?

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  • gfmorris
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    Right on to both.

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  • LtPowers
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1-#59

    Keep in mind that there's nothing about the formula that should result in anything exponential, so a logarithmic scale is probably misleading in some respect or another.


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  • LtPowers
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1-#59

    Originally posted by gfmorris View Post
    It would be interesting to plot these logarithmically.
    As you wish, courtesy of Excel.

    http://www.pixhoster.info/f/2016-08/...63fd970e98.png

    Note that this is the 2015 data, so Arizona State cannot be plotted on the logarithmic graph (as its score was 0).


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    Last edited by LtPowers; 08-08-2016, 03:48 PM.

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  • Snively65
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    Originally posted by gfmorris View Post
    It would be interesting to plot these logarithmically.

    GFM
    Exactly.

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  • gfmorris
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1-#59

    Originally posted by Snively65 View Post
    IIRC, from hereon the point totals are anything but linear.
    It would be interesting to plot these logarithmically.

    GFM

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  • Siouxfaninseattle
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    #31 – ST. CLOUD STATE HUSKIES

    Points: 29.46804 Points
    Points earned in 2015-2016 2.4846 Points
    Points earned in past five seasons: 15.80464 Points
    Last Season Ranking: #32


    The Huskies have had a great last four years, winning 20+ games from ’12-’13 to ’14-’15 and 31 games last season. They won the NCHC playoffs before losing in the regionals. They will be hard-pressed to continue the recent success, with several key players leaving the program for the pros and due to graduation.

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  • Siouxfaninseattle
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    #32 – NORTHEASTERN HUSKIES

    Points: 29.33969 Points
    Points earned in 2015-2016 1.0852 Points
    Points earned in past five seasons: 4.41019 Points
    Last Season Ranking: #30


    The Huskies had quite a season in ’15-’16, starting the year 1-11-2 and finishing the season at 22-14-5, winning the Hockey East playoffs and losing in the regionals to the eventual national champion. They are in good shape to continue their run in the upcoming season with 8 seniors returning to the team.

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  • Siouxfaninseattle
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    #33– BROWN BEARS

    Points: 22.68181 Points
    Points earned in 2015-2016: -0.0017 Points
    Points earned in past five seasons: 4.18201 Points
    Last Season Ranking: #33


    Brown stayed at #33 this past season but will need to have a better season to avoid getting passed by Lowell. After the Bear’s last winning season in ’12-’13, they have three consecutive losing seasons. They will need to improve on 2.10 goals/game and 3.47 goals against/game.

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  • LtPowers
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    Originally posted by komey1 View Post
    Most of the teams below UVM were either in mid-major conferences for a significant period of time or bottom feeders for their conference, or new. BSU has a shot to make a bit of a jump now that they are in the WCHA. RIT will likely need to win a game in the NCAA to get a significant amount of points.
    Winning the AHA tournament and beating #1 overall seed Mankato in 2015 still only got us 1.87 points. It's a huge uphill battle; there's a ton of points awarded for beating good teams in the regular season.


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  • komey1
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    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    That's a heck of a gap between UVM & BSU.
    Most of the teams below UVM were either in mid-major conferences for a significant period of time or bottom feeders for their conference, or new. BSU has a shot to make a bit of a jump now that they are in the WCHA. RIT will likely need to win a game in the NCAA to get a significant amount of points.

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  • ecbrevik
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    Wow, the UMass-Lowell points earned over the last 5 seasons exceed the total points for anyone ranked #37 or below!

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  • Siouxfaninseattle
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1-#59

    Originally posted by ScottK View Post
    4 appearances in the national tournament (and at least 1 win each time), not 3.
    Thanks - fixed.

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  • ScottK
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1-#59

    Originally posted by Siouxfaninseattle View Post
    #34– UMASS LOWELL RIVER
    HAWKS


    Points: 21.12905 Points
    Points earned in 2015-2016: 1.7995 Points
    Points earned in past five seasons: 14.04975 Points
    Last Season Ranking: #35


    It has been a great run since the Riverhawks last losing season, when they went 5-25-4 in ’10-‘11. They have won 24, 28, 26, 21 and 25 games in the past five seasons, which resulted in a regular season title, 2 HEA playoff titles, 3 appearances in the national tournament and the program’s first trip to the Frozen Four.
    4 appearances in the national tournament (and at least 1 win each time), not 3.

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