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  • #16
    Re: More proof that the Regional system is a disaster: Today's attendance at the X is

    Originally posted by UMDbulldogs#1 View Post
    It used to be that way, but everyone got sick of Michigan playing home games in the NCAA tournament.
    The issue wasn't so much Michigan playing home games in the NCAA tournament, it was Michigan playing home games as the weaker seed.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by MUnRPI View Post
      but how many more times will Minnesota and North Dakota be in the same regional, at the X..?
      How many campus sites can outdraw what the X drew on what has been a very down year?

      Throw even just Minnesota or North Dakota at the X on a typical year and it outdraws what you could get at a vast majority of campus sites.
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      • #18
        Re: More proof that the Regional system is a disaster: Today's attendance at the X is

        Took a look at the sites next year. Happy to see a regional returning to Providence and don't have a problem with Manchester or Grand Rapids...

        But, Toledo? W T F?

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        • #19
          Re: More proof that the Regional system is a disaster: Today's attendance at the X is

          First # is attendance / Second # is capacity

          Green Bay
          3465 / 8709 40%
          3108 / 8709 36%
          6573 / 17418 38%

          Bridgeport
          5090 / 8412 61%
          5328 / 8412 63%
          10418 / 16824 62%

          Attendance for the two days:
          (Regional SF)
          9386 / 18064 52%
          5090 / 8412 61%
          3465 / 8709 40%
          5925 / 12239 48%
          23866 / 47424 50%

          (Regional Finals)
          5328 / 8412 63%
          3108 / 8709 36%
          8436 / 17121 49%

          Total attendance
          32302 / 64545 50%

          1) Bring down prices.
          2) Tier prices for seats. Nosebleeds should not be the same price as front row.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by J.D. View Post
            Took a look at the sites next year. Happy to see a regional returning to Providence and don't have a problem with Manchester or Grand Rapids...

            But, Toledo? W T F?
            Manchester is an awesome site! Toledo, not so much.
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            • #21
              Re: More proof that the Regional system is a disaster: Today's attendance at the X is

              Originally posted by Bigus Paulus View Post
              Part of this has to do with the availability of games on TV these days, even with the issues of blackouts on D-TV and such. Back in the nineties it was nearly impossible to see regional action on TV. The rest has to do with pricey tickets combined with not knowing where your favorite team is playing until travel costs become sky high which ultimately leads to empty arenas.
              Bingo. The availability of it on TV and the Internet is one of the biggest problems for attendance, and I think the NCAA should look at this and figure in costs. Is it nice to see your team play live? Sure. But when you pay to fly or drive, pay $50+ for tickets, food, lodging...it adds up quickly. The expose is great for college hockey but it certainly is a downfall when it comes to getting butts in seats.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Priceless View Post

                1) Bring down prices.
                2) Tier prices for seats. Nosebleeds should not be the same price as front row.
                Bingo!
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                • #23
                  Re: More proof that the Regional system is a disaster: Today's attendance at the X is

                  Originally posted by mnstate0fhockey View Post
                  How many campus sites can outdraw what the X drew on what has been a very down year?

                  Throw even just Minnesota or North Dakota at the X on a typical year and it outdraws what you could get at a vast majority of campus sites.
                  Every campus site would sell out and it would be more entertaining / affordable for the fans. When 60% attendance is considered a "win" for the non-Minnesota Regionals something is wrong...

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                  • #24
                    Re: More proof that the Regional system is a disaster: Today's attendance at the X is

                    We could make a huge list. Add in not forcing people to buy the entire weekend package.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by J.D. View Post
                      We could make a huge list. Add in not forcing people to buy the entire weekend package.
                      Agreed. They didn't release single game tickets at the X until I believe today. Release those earlier, tier the ticket prices, and I'm sure the venues are much closer to sellouts.
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                      • #26
                        Re: More proof that the Regional system is a disaster: Today's attendance at the X is

                        Originally posted by Caustic Undertow View Post
                        But this, to me, is an absolute travesty. If you can't even draw 10,000 fans at the X for the two biggest fan bases in the WCHA, your regional system is broken. It is an insult to the players, the coaches, the fans, and the sport itself. It must change.

                        The NCAA must drop neutral-site regionals and play the first 12 games at the home sites of the higher seeds.
                        I'm confused how games at Mariucci or REA (or anywhere else for that matter) would have drawn more fans all thing considered equal.

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                        • #27
                          Re: More proof that the Regional system is a disaster: Today's attendance at the X is

                          Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                          I'm confused how games at Mariucci or REA (or anywhere else for that matter) would have drawn more fans all thing considered equal.
                          Why do more fans = better? IMO the higher seed getting to play at home and making the environments 100000x better is a win.

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                          • #28
                            Re: More proof that the Regional system is a disaster: Today's attendance at the X is

                            What do we do when a 3,000 seat arena team warrants a home game and 2,000 of those seats are owned by season ticket holders? How do we account for the loss in total revenue when you actually limit attendance even if demand is higher. Do we make each D-1 team specify a rink of 5,000 or greater capacity as a home playoff site? (good idea IMO)
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                            • #29
                              Re: More proof that the Regional system is a disaster: Today's attendance at the X is

                              Oh, and sell beer BTW and allow exit and re-entry between contests at all venues.
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                              • #30
                                Re: More proof that the Regional system is a disaster: Today's attendance at the X is

                                Originally posted by LTsatch View Post
                                What do we do when a 3,000 seat arena team warrants a home game and 2,000 of those seats are owned by season ticket holders? How do we account for the loss in total revenue when you actually limit attendance even if demand is higher. Do we make each D-1 team specify a rink of 5,000 or greater capacity as a home playoff site? (good idea IMO)
                                That's a good idea. When demand is higher than the attendance limit that creates excitement! Why are we trying to mold college hockey into something that it is not?

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