2012-2013 Bemidji State Beavers: We Are Staying Put

[gfmorris]

Re: 2012-2013 Bemidji State Beavers: We Are Staying Put

I'm generally a fan of the cut prices to an extent, then boil the frog approach. You can't slash or zero costs: there has to be some perceived value involved. But if $12-15 tickets are a problem, then $10 ones might not be. My theory is that you want lots of people in and used to coming to your games—essentially, the situation that you had in the Glas. It would be important to look at what changed. As you noted, Millsy, winning is a part of it. Don't I know it.

GFM

[beaverhockeyfan]

Re: 2012-2013 Bemidji State Beavers: We Are Staying Put

Part 2 of the Bemidji Pioneer look at the BSU Athletic Department:

http://www.bemidjipioneer.com/conten...su-hope-energy

[beaverhockeyfan]

Re: 2012-2013 Bemidji State Beavers: We Are Staying Put

On the whole "financial" thing.....

One thing we need to remember right now is that the Mens team is in year three of having to pay WCHA admission fees (I believe they were spread out over three years) and during that time, they do NOT get a cut of WCHA tournament revenue, which typically runs 6 figures. That is hurting the bottom line as well. Now next year, those admission fess will be gone, but so will be the WCHA Tournament and the money it generates as we know it.

[Biddco]

Re: 2012-2013 Bemidji State Beavers: We Are Staying Put

On the whole "financial" thing.....

One thing we need to remember right now is that the Mens team is in year three of having to pay WCHA admission fees (I believe they were spread out over three years) and during that time, they do NOT get a cut of WCHA tournament revenue, which typically runs 6 figures. That is hurting the bottom line as well. Now next year, those admission fess will be gone, but so will be the WCHA Tournament and the money it generates as we know it.

So with those numbers you might not have these articles written.

[beaverhockeyfan]

Re: 2012-2013 Bemidji State Beavers: We Are Staying Put

As of 12/12/12

FORMER BEAVERS

-Andrew Murray-Peoria Rivermen (AHL) 11 GP, 4G-3A-7 Pts., 4 PIM, -2
-Matt Read- Sodertalje (Allsvenskan) 20 GP, 6G-18A-24 Pts., 12 PIM
-Matt Francis-Nottingham Panthers (English ELITE League) 27 GP, 13G-17A-30 Pts., 41 PIM
-Brendan Cook-Fischtown Pinguins (Germany2) 23 GP, 19G-14A-33 Pts, 16 PIM
-Tyler Scofield-Klagenfurter AC (Austria) 15 GP, 3G-5A-8 Pts, 18 PIM, -8
-Mikka Lindholm-HKC (Finland2) 10 GP, 1G-1A-2 Pts., 0 PIM
-Matt Dalton-Neftekhimik Nizhnekamsk (KHL) 22 GP, 8W-7L-5SOL, 92.6 Save %, 2.34 GAA, 2 Shutout, 2 PIM
-Emil Billberg-Sodertalje (Allsvenskan) 27 GP, 5G-1A-6 Pts., 6 PIM
-Rob Sirianni-Valpelice (Italy) 23 GP, 17G-23A-40 Pts., 75 PIM
-Matt Climie-Chicago (AHL) 10 GP, 3W-7L-OSOL, 91.1 Save %, 2.68 GAA, 2 PIM, 0 Assists, 0 Shutout
-Ian Lowe- Wichita Thunder (CHL) 23 GP, 10G-11A-21 Pts., 6 PIM, -1
-Matt Pope-Hershey Bears (AHL) 14 GP, 1G-2A-3 Pts., 6 PIM, -5
-Daryl Bat-Tyringe SoSS (Sweden2) 17 GP, 7G-10A-17 Pts., 8 PIM
-Riley Weselowski-Rapid City (CHL) 23 GP, 2G-10A-12 Pts., 8 PIM, +3
-Brandon Marino-Fort Wayne Komets (ECHL) 21 GP, 9G-19A-28 Pts., 16 PIM, +6
-Andrew Martens-Wichita Thunder (CHL) 23 GP, 1G-6A-7 Pts., 8 PIM, +5
-Ryan Cramer-Tulsa Oilers (CHL) 24 GP, 6G-6A-12 Pts., 12 PIM, -14
-Brad Hunt-Chicago Wolves (AHL) 17 GP, 1G-7A-8 Pts., 4 PIM, +4
-Drew Fisher-Tulsa Oilers (CHL) 24 GP, 2G-6A-8 Pts., 12 PIM, -8
-Darcy Findlay-Cornwall Riverkings (LNAH) 3 GP, 1G-1A-2 Pts., 0 PIM
-Dan Bakala-Tulsa Oilers (CHL) 10 GP, 2W-3L-2SOL, 86.6 Save %, 3.71 GAA, 2 PIM, 1 Assists, 0 Shutout (RELEASED)
-Chris McKelvie-Trenton Titans (ECHL) 2 GP, 1G-1A-2 Pts., 2 PIM, +1
*********Albany Devils (AHL) 3 GP, 0G-0A-0 Pts., 5 PIM, +0
-Jamie MacQueen-Denver Cutthroats (CHL) 23 GP, 6G-5A-11 Pts., 10 PIM, +2
*********Lake Erie Monster (AHL) 0 GP, 0G-0A-0 Pts., 0 PIM, +0
-Mark Soares-EC Kassel Huskies (Germany3) 0 GP, 0G-0A-0 Pts., 0 PIM, +0 (Injured)

BEAVER RECRUITS

-Brendan Harms (Signed) Fargo Force (USHL) 23 GP, 6G-21A-27 Pts., 14 PIM, +13
-Bob Kinne (Signed)-Bismarck Bobcats (NAHL) 26 GP, 4G-6A-10 Pts., 20 PIM, -4
-Corey Petrash (2013 or 2014)-Cedar Rapids Roughriders (USHL) 21 GP, 4G-6A-10 Pts., 22 PIM, +3
-Carter Struthers (2013)-Weyburn Red Wings (SJHL) 13 GP, 4G-5A-9 Pts., 10 PIM
-Mike Soucier (2014 or 2015)-Wellington Dukes (OJHL) 27 GP, 5G-8A-13 Pts., 12 PIM
*********Canada East U19 (Junior A Challenge) 5 GP, 0G-1A-1 Pts., 2 PIM
-Phillip Marinaccio (Signed)-Chicago Steel (USHL) 14 GP, 6G-3A-9 Pts., 6 PIM, -2
*********Cedar Rapids Roughriders (USHL) 7 GP, 2G-4A-6 Pts., 6 PIM, -3
-Charlie O’Connor (Signed)-Chicago Steel (USHL) 15 GP, 3G-5A-8 Pts., 16 PIM, +1
-Brady Riesgraf (2013)-Coulee Region Chill (NAHL) 24 GP, 0G-5A-5 Pts., 28 PIM, -10
-Michael Bitzer (Signed) Lincoln Stars (USHL) 9 GP, 6W-2L-1 OTL, 1.99 GAA, 91.9 Sv%
*********USA U19 (Junior A Challenge) 1 GP, 0W-0L-0T, 9.00 GAA, 75.0 Sv%
-Brett Beauvais (2013 or 2014) Kalamazoo Jr. K-Wings (NAHL) 25 GP, 2G-15A-17 Pts., 24 PIM, +5
-Jason Ford (2014 or 2015) Janesville Jets (NAHL) 29 GP, 11G-9A-20 Pts., 8 PIM, +2
-Reid Mimmack (Jan. 2013) Jamestown Ironmen (NAHL) 19 GP, 14W-4L-1 OTL, 2.35 GAA, 91.5 Sv%, 2 SO

[beaverhockeyfan]

Re: 2012-2013 Bemidji State Beavers: We Are Staying Put

So with those numbers you might not have these articles written.

No, I think the articles needed to be written, especially for the D-II NSIC sports and the fact that there were a lot of questions once it was announced that the AD was being replaced. And it is a good eye opener for the BSU fans as to where the programs sit financially.

But all the naysayers from Bemidji are going to be pointing at the numbers quoted on the hockey side of things ($200,000-$300,000 loss on the mens side, $800,000-$900,000 loss on the womens side) and say the arena never should have been built, never should have went D-I, etc., etc. But you take the fact that, if I recall correctly, that BSU has to pay $200,000 a year for three years in admit fees to the mens WCHA, plus the fact that they don't get a cut of the mens WCHA Tournament revenue (lets say $100,000 since all I have really ever heard is six figures), that makes the mens team balance neutral.

That still doesn't help the fact that the women's team still has $800,000 + that needs to be covered PLUS that BSU needs to find a way to fund 18 more D-II scholarships just to be NSIC Average. That is $1 Million + that needs to come from somewhere. Not sure where that is going to come from.....

It would be nice to see a third article in the series that breaks down the D-II sports.

[gmann]

No, I think the articles needed to be written, especially for the D-II NSIC sports and the fact that there were a lot of questions once it was announced that the AD was being replaced. And it is a good eye opener for the BSU fans as to where the programs sit financially.

But all the naysayers from Bemidji are going to be pointing at the numbers quoted on the hockey side of things ($200,000-$300,000 loss on the mens side, $800,000-$900,000 loss on the womens side) and say the arena never should have been built, never should have went D-I, etc., etc. But you take the fact that, if I recall correctly, that BSU has to pay $200,000 a year for three years in admit fees to the mens WCHA, plus the fact that they don't get a cut of the mens WCHA Tournament revenue (lets say $100,000 since all I have really ever heard is six figures), that makes the mens team balance neutral.

That still doesn't help the fact that the women's team still has $800,000 + that needs to be covered PLUS that BSU needs to find a way to fund 18 more D-II scholarships just to be NSIC Average. That is $1 Million + that needs to come from somewhere. Not sure where that is going to come from.....

It would be nice to see a third article in the series that breaks down the D-II sports.

My .02 worth.

Another item that was not included in these articles is the pull factor. On game day/weekends what kind of impact does the hockey program and the new arena have in the Bemidji community on a economic scale?

The pull factor will not show up in the financials of the University but it certainly should be used it determining the impact of the new arena.

If I had to guess I would say that the money coming into the community would correlate in a similar fashion to the trend in season ticket sales.

Bottom line, the shake up in conference alignment impacted numerous programs and universities. Given all the hoops BSU had to jump through to get into the WCHA they have to be near the top of the list in regards to getting "the shaft". BSU and the nWCHA need to deal with the changes in the D1 landscape and their goal is to find viable solutions in making it work.

Winning will cure many ailments and BSU has a proven track record to back that up. However, with the jump to D1 and the WCHA and the revenue factor of the program being required to bring in cash, it brings an entirely new set of pressures to win...............The programs higher ups (new AD) need to be prepared to make all sorts of decisions to right the ship over the next few years if in fact revenues are not generated to make a profit.

I blame Huntsville. One condition for entering the nWCHA should be that they have to purchase any tickets that don't sell at BSU home games. Forever.

[gfmorris]

Re: 2012-2013 Bemidji State Beavers: We Are Staying Put

I blame Huntsville. One condition for entering the nWCHA should be that they have to purchase any tickets that don't sell at BSU home games. Forever.

Yeah.

GFM

[beaverhockeyfan]

Re: 2012-2013 Bemidji State Beavers: We Are Staying Put

I missed this article from back on December 1 in the Bemidji Pioneer. Also, watch for a look at the NSIC sports this weekend:

http://www.bemidjipioneer.com/conten...ate-university

[vizoroo]

Re: 2012-2013 Bemidji State Beavers: We Are Staying Put

Speaking of Pioneers, links to DU Game Notes and Coach Gwozdecky's Press Conference.
Note: Gwoz corrects Mike Kennedy's pronunciation of Bemidji


Game Notes:
http://www.denverpioneers.com/ViewAr...CLID=205824102

Press Conference:
http://www.denverpioneers.com/mediaP...b_oem_id=18600

[beaverhockeyfan]

Re: 2012-2013 Bemidji State Beavers: We Are Staying Put

Thanks, that was a good one by Gwoz!

[beaverhockeyfan]

Re: 2012-2013 Bemidji State Beavers: We Are Staying Put

Game is on tonight but travel is not advised in the Bemidji area. Be safe if you go.

[codemanh]

Re: 2012-2013 Bemidji State Beavers: We Are Staying Put

Game is on tonight but travel is not advised in the Bemidji area. Be safe if you go.

Good thing I get to ride the free shuttle from campus .

I thought we looked good last night outside of all of the penalties. They didn't replay them in the arena, but I heard from someone watching at home they were pretty weak... Thoughts?

Hopefully we can pull off the win tonight, 2 points would be huge at this point!

[Nymore]

Re: 2012-2013 Bemidji State Beavers: We Are Staying Put

The DU players did a nice job of turning their back to the hits along the boards, turning a simple hit.......... into a 5 MM and automatic ejection.

The Beavs did a nice job on the PK. Having to kill multiple 5's and stay in the game.........it's not easy. .

[beaverhockeyfan]

Re: 2012-2013 Bemidji State Beavers: We Are Staying Put

I agree that Denver was good at turning their backs at the last second. But then they didn't call then one where McLeod got hit from behind. Hopefully I this called better tonight.