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Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
Originally posted by ericredaxe View PostECAC gives its auto bid to the regular season champ and not the tournament champ?
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Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
Originally posted by Bomber View PostHighlights of last night anywhere? If so, please post.
Not the greatest camera angles/quality, but it works. The Gill goal is ridiculous from what I can see.
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Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
So...now that the latest round of controversy has subsided somewhat, I thought I'd "perk up" the thread with some more controversy. I'm soliciting opinions...based on the following assumptions:
1) A team can't really "control" where they finish in the pairwise.
2) Forget that I said a couple of days ago not to look at the pairwise until the day of the selection show...
3) BC will finish in the top 4 of the pairwise
4) BC will finish ahead of BU in the pairwise and/or win the Hockey East Tournament
Since the Top 4 all get placed in different regionals as the #1 seed, which of the following two options would everyone prefer?
a) BU finishes in the Top 4 and gets moved to another regional, which makes it POSSIBLE that it won't be in the East
b) BU finishes #5 and gets placed in BC's regional as the #2 seed (means we'd play them in the regional final)
I'm just curious...personally I would rather avoid BC at any cost - and we seem to play better "on the road" (of course, nobody is "home" in the NCAAs, but it's a moot point for us anyway because we don't travel well, ESPECIALLY if we don't get Worcester - I don't even think we'd get much of a crowd in Bridgeport). So I would just as soon see us go West (Green Bay or St.Paul). Frankly, we don't play great in Worcester anyway (especially if BC is there). Just my opinion...I'm interested to see what you all think!
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Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
Originally posted by mookie1995 View Postumass won and their rpi moved back above .500 which means bc added a 1-2-0 record vs umass to their tuc record.
In this case BC was being less punished for a losing record against UMass when UMass was "worse" (when their RPI was under .500), and when UMass wins and pushes their RPI above .500 the ammount that those losses "hurt" BC increases.
Wouldn't it make more sense that the worse a team is, the more a loss to them should hurt your ranking?
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Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
Originally posted by chickod View PostSo...now that the latest round of controversy has subsided somewhat, I thought I'd "perk up" the thread with some more controversy. I'm soliciting opinions...based on the following assumptions:
1) A team can't really "control" where they finish in the pairwise.
2) Forget that I said a couple of days ago not to look at the pairwise until the day of the selection show...
3) BC will finish in the top 4 of the pairwise
4) BC will finish ahead of BU in the pairwise and/or win the Hockey East Tournament
Since the Top 4 all get placed in different regionals as the #1 seed, which of the following two options would everyone prefer?
a) BU finishes in the Top 4 and gets moved to another regional, which makes it POSSIBLE that it won't be in the East
b) BU finishes #5 and gets placed in BC's regional as the #2 seed (means we'd play them in the regional final)
I'm just curious...personally I would rather avoid BC at any cost - and we seem to play better "on the road" (of course, nobody is "home" in the NCAAs, but it's a moot point for us anyway because we don't travel well, ESPECIALLY if we don't get Worcester - I don't even think we'd get much of a crowd in Bridgeport). So I would just as soon see us go West (Green Bay or St.Paul). Frankly, we don't play great in Worcester anyway (especially if BC is there). Just my opinion...I'm interested to see what you all think!
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Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
Originally posted by ericredaxe View PostWhich highlights an issue that I have with the PWR.
In this case BC was being less punished for a losing record against UMass when UMass was "worse" (when their RPI was under .500), and when UMass wins and pushes their RPI above .500 the ammount that those losses "hurt" BC increases.
Wouldn't it make more sense that the worse a team is, the more a loss to them should hurt your ranking?
However, if you're looking at "record vs the best" (TUC), then it's the determination of what makes them "the best."Originally posted by nmupiccdiva...anyone that can start a meme like that is welcome and will fit in just fine around here.
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Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
Originally posted by Terrier520 View PostWell it does... that's RPI, the finals straw, so to speak (it's how all ties are broken). Losing to a weaker UMass hurts your RPI more
However, if you're looking at "record vs the best" (TUC), then it's the determination of what makes them "the best."
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Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
Originally posted by ericredaxe View PostTrue, but in this case, the RPI did not overcome the TUC. So essentially (weather it was UMass or someone else) they would have been better losing to the "34th" team instead of the "32nd".Originally posted by nmupiccdiva...anyone that can start a meme like that is welcome and will fit in just fine around here.
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Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
While I wouldn't expect it to happen by any reach of the imagination, reaching the Frozen Four by eliminating BC in Worcester would be as satisfying as winning it all.
If the dog pound got creative for the game and had pop up signs of a BC eagle then a pop up of the Duck Hunt dog doing the "hee hee hee" thing, that'd make it even more epic.Last edited by BUPhD; 02-27-2012, 08:36 AM.
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Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
The PWR now is just an illusion-- it doesn't really exist. The fact that we've all been watching and obsessing over it for the last months is a luxury afforded by USCHO, but in reality the PWR doesn't exist until the day of the tournament selection. It doesn't move or change during the season because it isn't real until everyone's whole body of work is being taken into consideration. The fact that a team was ranked higher in the PWR at one point in the season is meaningless because that team hadn't played all of their games yet. Where they land at the end is where they land. All you can do to maximize your PWR is try and win every game. Simple as that.
I don't know where BU will land but I am still hoping they wind up in Worcester somehow since that is probably the only trip I will be able to make. Maybe that's selfish since I'm weighing my ability to see them play over their chances of advancing, but that's how I feel. But ultimately we're going to have to beat good teams to win this tournament. Whether we play BC in Worcester or Tampa we'd likely have to go through them either way. Plus, they're the devil we know (versus the one we don't) and we alraedy know we can play with them.#OneKnight
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Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
Originally posted by BUPhD View PostWhile I wouldn't expect it to happen by any reach of the imagination, reaching the Frozen Four by eliminating BC in Worcester would be as satisfying as winning it all.Originally posted by nmupiccdiva...anyone that can start a meme like that is welcome and will fit in just fine around here.
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Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with
Originally posted by BUPhD View PostWhile I wouldn't expect it to happen by any reach of the imagination, reaching the Frozen Four by eliminating BC in Worcester would be as satisfying as winning it all.
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