RPI Recruit Thread 2011-12 Part II

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2011-12 Part II

Happy last day of July! Just a little closer to the beginning of the season! Here we come!

Wrong thread.

[fr joe]

Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2011-12 Part II

Happy last day of July! Just a little closer to the beginning of the season! Here we come!

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2011-12 Part II

It can start a trend, though.

But you don't know in which direction.

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2011-12 Part II

One doesn't make a trend.

It can start a trend, though.

[Wicked Slappaahs]

Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2011-12 Part II

There are Captains who lead by example and those who lead by taking charge. We really need more of the former kind than we have had lately.

Precisely RB. There are different kinds of leadership...guys who rally and pump guys up, others leading by example -- doing the dirty work in corners, getting the puck to the front of the net (knowing full well they're going to get hammered)blocking shots,etc. etc.

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2011-12 Part II

Dolan's mixed it up at least once during college; there's national proof of that. Whether or not they're "tough", one thing that they definitely are is aggressive. Certainly there's a learning curve as to how much physicality is allowed in the college game (ask AspyDad where that one's going ), but it's that toughness and physicality that makes the ECAC the ECAC.

One doesn't make a trend.

[FlagDUDE08]

Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2011-12 Part II

I beg to differ. Guys that get into lots of scraps in juniors tend to end up still being tough guys in college. I think Bo Dolan is really the only exception that I've seen. Bailen fought a lot but he doesn't mind throwing hits in college either.

Dolan's mixed it up at least once during college; there's national proof of that. Whether or not they're "tough", one thing that they definitely are is aggressive. Certainly there's a learning curve as to how much physicality is allowed in the college game (ask AspyDad where that one's going ), but it's that toughness and physicality that makes the ECAC the ECAC.

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2011-12 Part II

I beg to differ. Guys that get into lots of scraps in juniors tend to end up still being tough guys in college. I think Bo Dolan is really the only exception that I've seen. Bailen fought a lot but he doesn't mind throwing hits in college either.

That was indeed the point that crossed my mind. Although Devito probably won't throw a lot of punches in college, he will likley still get in many scraps.

[knsmith]

Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2011-12 Part II

I beg to differ. Guys that get into lots of scraps in juniors tend to end up still being tough guys in college. I think Bo Dolan is really the only exception that I've seen. Bailen fought a lot but he doesn't mind throwing hits in college either.

Sure, but the deeper point is that any aspect of DeVito's fighting that might transfer to RPI clearly was -- and is -- present in Lee in any event. The point is that the PIMs, though different in absolute value between Lee and DeVito, really aren't a distinguishing point. Indeed, I can't find any meaningful distinctions in their trajectories.

[Red Cloud]

Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2011-12 Part II

What are the differences that you see? Sure, DeVito gets in more fights. But that is irrelevant, since that portion of the game is absent in the NCAA.

I beg to differ. Guys that get into lots of scraps in juniors tend to end up still being tough guys in college. I think Bo Dolan is really the only exception that I've seen. Bailen fought a lot but he doesn't mind throwing hits in college either.

[knsmith]

Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2011-12 Part II

He doesn't seem to me to be a similar type of player to Lee.

Compare http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=99515 with http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=133548

First year in the USHL, both have very low point totals, and average about a PIM per game. Second year in the USHL, they average right around 0.5 points per game, and each see their penalty minutes drastically increase to over one per game (to be fair, DeVito's went way up to nearly two per game). We'll see what happens their third year (Lee saw his scoring go up to about a point per game, and penalty minutes increase another 30% or so). They also have similar body types, as far as their listed heights and weights go (DeVito's weight will surely balloon upon starting in with an NCAA training staff).

What are the differences that you see? Sure, DeVito gets in more fights. But that is irrelevant, since that portion of the game is absent in the NCAA.

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2011-12 Part II

Gazette article about the recruit class http://www.dailygazette.net/standard...Section=Sports.

Usually one can't see Gazette articles because it is a pay site, but I found this by googling.

[Ralph Baer]

Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2011-12 Part II

Thanks for the link! The fact that he was traded for a 3rd-round pick, when he's certainly going to be with the team for only one year, speaks pretty well to his talent level. Off the top of my head, it seems like his progression thus far has been quite similar to that of C.J. Lee. (Except for the fact that Lee was one of our biggest offensive recruits in his class, whereas DeVito is not -- a good thing, of course.)

He doesn't seem to me to be a similar type of player to Lee.

[knsmith]

Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2011-12 Part II

Jake Wood has a new team-mate with Lincoln...Jimmy Devito http://www.lincolnstarsblog.com/

Thanks for the link! The fact that he was traded for a 3rd-round pick, when he's certainly going to be with the team for only one year, speaks pretty well to his talent level. Off the top of my head, it seems like his progression thus far has been quite similar to that of C.J. Lee. (Except for the fact that Lee was one of our biggest offensive recruits in his class, whereas DeVito is not -- a good thing, of course.)

[fishcore12]

Re: RPI Recruit Thread 2011-12 Part II

And people wonder why there are a whole series of posters who dont post anymore....

Some people just dont know when to quit and let a comment be, they feel the need to reply. I totally understand where some people might not post here anymore, myself however, I have learned to just skip over most replies that have nothing to do with this team.