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  • Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

    Originally posted by gfmorris View Post
    ...we have the McLeod Cup if anyone's interested!

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    • Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

      Originally posted by MavsFan View Post
      Is it immortal?
      We're engineers, man. It's possible with enough government funding [or so we'll tell you to get the funding].

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      • Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

        Originally posted by aparch View Post
        *shrug* The ECAC and Atlantic Hockey leagues have utilized the same venues (or similar sized neutral arenas) for almost a decade. The switch for ECAC to Atlantic City started last season, and was a three year deal. They seem to be okay with it. I'm sure additional sponsorship dollars for being part of such an event help offset costs of renting the facilities
        Just to clarify; except for the people who approved this dumb idea, the ECAC is not okay with it. Not only was our final 4 in a 60% empty building, it wasn't even on TV!
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        • Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

          The Mason Cup wil be available.
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          • Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

            So to wander back to a much earlier discussion on the WCHA / CCHA logo... I'd like to see a nod to the past. I know the flying skater used now is similar to the really old CCHA one, but, I'd like to see something like this:



            The CCHA logo was nice and compact, and the turning skater was a nice effect for the logo.
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            • Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

              Originally posted by Freddie View Post
              The Mason Cup wil be available.
              Didn't you hear they are going to call it the Herb Brooks Memorial Cup.
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              • Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

                So what's a nine-team schedule going to look like? I have to wonder if having Alabama in your schedule every year is better than Alaska in your schedule every year, or worse twice in a season.

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                • Originally posted by gfmorris View Post
                  So what's a nine-team schedule going to look like? I have to wonder if having Alabama in your schedule every year is better than Alaska in your schedule every year, or worse twice in a season.

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                  I would think playing in Alabama would be preferred over an additional trip to Alaska.
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                  • Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

                    Originally posted by gfmorris View Post
                    So what's a nine-team schedule going to look like? I have to wonder if having Alabama in your schedule every year is better than Alaska in your schedule every year, or worse twice in a season.

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                    The schedule will be 28 games. You will play six opponents 4 times each and the other two twice each.As far as Huntsville on the schedule, it's much nice in Huntsville in January than it is in Fairbanks.
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                    • Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

                      Originally posted by MavHockey14 View Post
                      I would think playing in Alabama would be preferred over an additional trip to Alaska.
                      Not if the Alaska games are exempt.

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                      • Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

                        Originally posted by goldy_331 View Post
                        Not if the Alaska games are exempt.
                        I still think that the "value" of the exemption to the schools that remain in the WCHA is significantly overestimated.

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                        • Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

                          Originally posted by goldy_331 View Post
                          Not if the Alaska games are exempt.
                          We talk about this a lot, and it's an important point of course, but it's not as if there are a lot of teams out there with openings on their schedule. Back in 2010-11 when UAH was (relatively) hurting for games, I sat down and looked to see who could play UAH in a series given the weekends that were open. I found two schools, and one of them was a school that was already playing us. It's not as if I was looking for a game in February, either. Just because you get two games with an Alaska trip doesn't mean that the hockey gods open up the skies and rain down a game upon your fertile ground.

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                          • Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

                            Originally posted by gfmorris View Post
                            We talk about this a lot, and it's an important point of course, but it's not as if there are a lot of teams out there with openings on their schedule. Back in 2010-11 when UAH was (relatively) hurting for games, I sat down and looked to see who could play UAH in a series given the weekends that were open. I found two schools, and one of them was a school that was already playing us. It's not as if I was looking for a game in February, either. Just because you get two games with an Alaska trip doesn't mean that the hockey gods open up the skies and rain down a game upon your fertile ground.

                            GFM
                            Your anecdote doesn't apply. Looking at open dates today on a calendar that is made up yesterday means nothing. I'm sure you just offered it as an example. Q and A follows:

                            Every team has ooc games to get to 34? Yes?
                            Do lots of schools HAVE to play some percentage of those ooc games on the road? Yes.
                            Will having exemptions help those schools play more ooc games at home? Yes.
                            Is there anything stopping conference members from playing ooc games against other conference members? No.

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                            • Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

                              Originally posted by Almington View Post
                              I still think that the "value" of the exemption to the schools that remain in the WCHA is significantly overestimated.
                              Actually that value is even greater now, with a few schools making two trips. That will allow more non conference games, meaning you can generate more revenue by playing at home, or take "money" games. With the loss of Final Five revenue by the old WCHA school, any opportunity to generate more revenue is critical.
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                              • Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

                                Originally posted by davyd83 View Post
                                Actually that value is even greater now, with a few schools making two trips. That will allow more non conference games, meaning you can generate more revenue by playing at home, or take "money" games. With the loss of Final Five revenue by the old WCHA school, any opportunity to generate more revenue is critical.
                                Agreed. Also, if you look at how the CCHA playoffs went, I'd bet they made no money on the playoffs and might have lost quite a bit, whereas the WCHA teams were making money. So if it can be structured now such that league games make a little more and if the playoffs can be cash flow positive rather than negative, then we should be ok. I just can't see how the league can commit to anything right now that is a big loser. So going to the JLA for the playoffs seems kind of nuts to me.
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