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  • Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

    Originally posted by aparch View Post
    Pretty sure they don't have the right to b*tch since they're the ones that got swept by PWR#13 Minnesota and lost one game to PWR#23 UNO.
    Yeah, and the we've lost once since that sweep and the gophers have lost 9 times...what's your point?
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    • Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

      That unless the Gophers either sweep the rest of the season, or tank below TUC status... your ranking is tied to how they play.
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        I have found the discrepancy between sites.

        The TBRW site begins with games as of 10-07-11 but there were three games before that. Lake Superior won a pair of games at UAH and Michigan defeated Niagara at home. When those three games are added to the mix the pairwise and RPI match those at SiouxSports. The USCHO RPI/Pairwise does not yet have the Wisconsin/North Dakota score. Once it does, it should align with SiouxSports and TBRW.

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        • Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

          If scores in Alaska hold (Denver and Alaska both lead by 3 goals)

          1 Minn-Duluth (WC)
          2 Boston Univ (HE)
          3 Mass-Lowell (HE)
          4 Michigan (CC)
          5 Northern Mich (CC)
          6 Ohio State (CC)
          7 Ferris State (CC)
          8 Boston Coll (HE)
          9 Minnesota (WC)
          10 Merrimack (HE)
          11 Notre Dame (CC)
          12 Miami (CC)
          13 Maine (HE)
          14 Denver U (WC)
          15 Union (EC)

          Code:
          Bridgeport	Worcester	St. Paul		Green Bay
          Lowell		BU		Minn-Duluth		Michigan
          Boston College	Ohio State	Ferris State		Northern Mich
          Notre Dame	Merrimack	Minnesota		Miami
          Denver		Union		AHA Champ		Maine

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          • Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

            Originally posted by Biddco View Post
            We're still a #1 seed. Green Bay or St. Paul doesn't matter. I would give the slight edge to St. Paul because then my drive will be 90% shorter
            If we don't start scoring on the power play, you won't have to worry about driving anywhere. Five on five play has carried us all season, but eventually the lack of power play goals is going to catch up with us (tonight is a good example).
            Last edited by UMDbulldogs#1; 01-28-2012, 12:34 AM.
            How do they expect us to throw hotdogs at the gophers with that [Expletive deleted] net in front of us?

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            • Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

              Originally posted by aparch View Post
              That unless the Gophers either sweep the rest of the season, or tank below TUC status... your ranking is tied to how they play.
              Our ranking is tied directly to how we play.
              Last edited by UMDbulldogs#1; 01-28-2012, 12:35 AM.
              How do they expect us to throw hotdogs at the gophers with that [Expletive deleted] net in front of us?

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              • Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

                Obviously quite a bit of hockey to play here... But I am starting to think that NMU's chances are for real here...

                Would you "experts" say that our ranking is still artificially inflated by the SOS that we've had thus far or are things starting to level off for that? Obviously if we just win, things will take care of themselves... How much further do we have to go before we establish ourselves a safety net?

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                • Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

                  Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                  If scores in Alaska hold (Denver and Alaska both lead by 3 goals)
                  WHERE'S RPI!?
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                  • Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

                    Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                    If scores in Alaska hold (Denver and Alaska both lead by 3 goals)

                    1 Minn-Duluth (WC)
                    2 Boston Univ (HE)
                    3 Mass-Lowell (HE)
                    4 Michigan (CC)
                    5 Northern Mich (CC)
                    6 Ohio State (CC)
                    7 Ferris State (CC)
                    8 Boston Coll (HE)
                    9 Minnesota (WC)
                    10 Merrimack (HE)
                    11 Notre Dame (CC)
                    12 Miami (CC)
                    13 Maine (HE)
                    14 Denver U (WC)
                    15 Union (EC)

                    Code:
                    Bridgeport	Worcester	St. Paul		Green Bay
                    Lowell		BU		Minn-Duluth		Michigan
                    Boston College	Ohio State	Ferris State		Northern Mich
                    Notre Dame	Merrimack	Minnesota		Miami
                    Denver		Union		AHA Champ		Maine
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                    • Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

                      Originally posted by RaceBoarder View Post
                      Obviously quite a bit of hockey to play here... But I am starting to think that NMU's chances are for real here...

                      Would you "experts" say that our ranking is still artificially inflated by the SOS that we've had thus far or are things starting to level off for that? Obviously if we just win, things will take care of themselves... How much further do we have to go before we establish ourselves a safety net?
                      NMU is actually in one of the most volatile spots right now, it wouldn't take much to push them down to the mid teens. I put a one-week chart for NMU in my weekly UND PWR article, because they're somewhat unique in how likely they are to move big in a such a short time.

                      Part of it is NMU not having common opponents with an incredibly high 6 TUCs. 2 more are ties, so a full 25% of NMU's comparisons come down to only one or two criteria, so it's much more sensitive to a small change in TUC or RPI.

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                      • Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

                        Assuming Denver holds onto the two-goal lead in Anchorage...

                        1 Minn-Duluth (WC)
                        2 Boston Univ (HE)
                        3 Mass-Lowell (HE)
                        4 Ferris State (CC)
                        5 Ohio State (CC)
                        6 Boston Coll (HE)
                        7 Michigan (CC)
                        8 Miami (CC)
                        9 Merrimack (HE)
                        10 Minnesota (WC)
                        11 Maine (HE)
                        12 Notre Dame (CC)
                        13 Northern Mich (CC)
                        14 Denver U (WC)
                        15 Union (EC)

                        Code:
                        Bridgeport	Worcester	St. Paul	Green Bay
                        Lowell		BU		Minn-Duluth	Ferris St
                        Boston College	Michigan	Miami		Ohio St
                        Notre Dame	Merrimack	Minnesota	Maine
                        Denver		Union		AHA Champ	Northern Mich
                        Green Bay is all CCHA teams, but Maine and Notre Dame are swapped out to avoid one first-round intra-conference affair. NMU and Denver can be swapped as well, but with the CCHA getting 6 teams in, it's not mandatory. For that matter, the Maine/Notre Dame swap isn't required either as Hockey East places 5 teams in the field.

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                        • Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

                          so weird seeing Lowell as a #1 seed right now. long way to go, though

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                          • Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

                            Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                            Assuming Denver holds onto the two-goal lead in Anchorage...

                            1 Minn-Duluth (WC)
                            2 Boston Univ (HE)
                            3 Mass-Lowell (HE)
                            4 Ferris State (CC)
                            5 Ohio State (CC)
                            6 Boston Coll (HE)
                            7 Michigan (CC)
                            8 Miami (CC)
                            9 Merrimack (HE)
                            10 Minnesota (WC)
                            11 Maine (HE)
                            12 Notre Dame (CC)
                            13 Northern Mich (CC)
                            14 Denver U (WC)
                            15 Union (EC)

                            Code:
                            Bridgeport	Worcester	St. Paul	Green Bay
                            Lowell		BU		Minn-Duluth	Ferris St
                            Boston College	Michigan	Miami		Ohio St
                            Notre Dame	Merrimack	Minnesota	Maine
                            Denver		Union		AHA Champ	Northern Mich
                            Green Bay is all CCHA teams, but Maine and Notre Dame are swapped out to avoid one first-round intra-conference affair. NMU and Denver can be swapped as well, but with the CCHA getting 6 teams in, it's not mandatory. For that matter, the Maine/Notre Dame swap isn't required either as Hockey East places 5 teams in the field.
                            Couldn't you swap NMU and Denver to make Green Bay not all CCHA, or are they the hosts?

                            Edit: should have kept reading. Move along, nothing to see here.
                            Last edited by Patronick; 01-29-2012, 08:49 AM. Reason: I'm a dummy.
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                            • Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

                              Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                              Assuming Denver holds onto the two-goal lead in Anchorage...

                              1 Minn-Duluth (WC)
                              2 Boston Univ (HE)
                              3 Mass-Lowell (HE)
                              4 Ferris State (CC)
                              5 Ohio State (CC)
                              6 Boston Coll (HE)
                              7 Michigan (CC)
                              8 Miami (CC)
                              9 Merrimack (HE)
                              10 Minnesota (WC)
                              11 Maine (HE)
                              12 Notre Dame (CC)
                              13 Northern Mich (CC)
                              14 Denver U (WC)
                              15 Union (EC)

                              Code:
                              Bridgeport	Worcester	St. Paul	Green Bay
                              Lowell		BU		Minn-Duluth	Ferris St
                              Boston College	Michigan	Miami		Ohio St
                              Notre Dame	Merrimack	Minnesota	Maine
                              Denver		Union		AHA Champ	Northern Mich
                              Green Bay is all CCHA teams, but Maine and Notre Dame are swapped out to avoid one first-round intra-conference affair. NMU and Denver can be swapped as well, but with the CCHA getting 6 teams in, it's not mandatory. For that matter, the Maine/Notre Dame swap isn't required either as Hockey East places 5 teams in the field.
                              I don't question that this could be a scenario... but updated PWR shows Minnesota tied with Merrimack and Miami for 8th. Minnesota was given 8th, then Merrimack then Miami in order. This would not jive with your bands.

                              Staying within the strict integrity of the brackets i.e. 1-8-9-16 etc. it makes a difference since the 8th overall is in the 2nd seed band and 9 &10 are in the 3rd seed band. Since Minnesota is a host they would be in the West, anyway.

                              I have it like this: 1-8-10-16 West UMD-Minn-Miami-AHA
                              2-7-9-15 NE BU-Mich-Merrimack-Union
                              3-6-11-14 East UML-OSU-Maine-Denver
                              4-5-12-13 Midw FSU-BC-ND-NMU

                              I'm guessing it is subjective to ship NMU to the East and Denver to the Midwest to avoid the first round match-up. Denver has to fly either way, but NMU is closer to Green Bay for attendance, plus having > four conference teams. I'm interested to see what Jason does. This preserves bracket integrity.
                              The only flip was the 9th and 10th teams in the 3rd seed band to prevent a first round intraconference match.

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                              • Re: 2012 NCAA Tournament: Bracketology

                                Originally posted by streaker View Post
                                I don't question that this could be a scenario... but updated PWR shows Minnesota tied with Merrimack and Miami for 8th. Minnesota was given 8th, then Merrimack then Miami in order. This would not jive with your bands.

                                Staying within the strict integrity of the brackets i.e. 1-8-9-16 etc. it makes a difference since the 8th overall is in the 2nd seed band and 9 &10 are in the 3rd seed band. Since Minnesota is a host they would be in the West, anyway.

                                I have it like this: 1-8-10-16 West UMD-Minn-Miami-AHA
                                2-7-9-15 NE BU-Mich-Merrimack-Union
                                3-6-11-14 East UML-OSU-Maine-Denver
                                4-5-12-13 Midw FSU-BC-ND-NMU

                                I'm guessing it is subjective to ship NMU to the East and Denver to the Midwest to avoid the first round match-up. Denver has to fly either way, but NMU is closer to Green Bay for attendance, plus having > four conference teams. I'm interested to see what Jason does. This preserves bracket integrity.
                                The only flip was the 9th and 10th teams in the 3rd seed band to prevent a first round intraconference match.
                                Minnesota wins the 3-way tie by .0007 RPI over Merrimack and Miami finishes 10th even though they win the comparisons against both. Just love that.

                                However, because Ohio State wins the comparison against BC, they would be seeded 5th and BC 6th.

                                After breaking ties, I have the same bracket as before, except Minnesota is the 2 seed and Miami the 3.

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