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  • Chuck Schwartz
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    Re: UW-Milwaukee exploring adding D-1 hockey

    Originally posted by MadCityRich View Post
    I don't think a D-1 college team in Milwaukee would get any attendance, other than students.
    I disagree...it's still Wisconsin which is still a hockey strong state. Like I said earlier, they don't have to draw 10,000 to be successful. If they can get 3,000 to come out on a nightly basis that would put them in the middle of the pack in the country.

    Hockey in Milwaukee continues to grow and I'm not sure it's fair to write something off just because of the opinion that hockey isn't strong in that part of the state. Actually programs like the Milwaukee Jr. Admirals are starting to churn out some players and some of the high school programs are really strong (USM has won two state titles recently).

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  • MadCityRich
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    Hockey won't happen at UWM. I don't think a D-1 college team in Milwaukee would get any attendance, other than students.

    Milwaukee isn't the hockey version of Dyersville, Iowa. I know it's a totally different city than Madison, but few even follow Badger Hockey. What ever happened to that "Super Rink" that crashed and burned in SE Wisconsin? Lack of support....Ditto.

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  • CardinalandWhite
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    Re: UW-Milwaukee exploring adding D-1 hockey

    Originally posted by mariucci View Post
    That would be a great move for WI and the sport. Hope it happens!
    Agreed! UW-Milwaukee adding men's hockey would be a far better decision than adding football.

    FBS Level - UWM can't meet the attendance and other requirements of FBS competition. Not to mention the tens of millions in cost for: a new DI-level stadium, fielding a team of 85 scholarships, plus title IX women's sports.

    FCS Level - Many schools at the FCS level are losing money and several have dropped the sport entirely. For example, Nebraska-Omaha's recent decision to drop football when going from DII to DI, one of the reasons UNO cited was an average $2 million loss FCS football programs face annually.

    What conference would UW-Milwaukee hockey be in, NCHC (along with Air Force to stay at an even number)? Or the WCHA?
    Last edited by CardinalandWhite; 11-28-2011, 11:27 AM.

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  • Lady wore Black
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    Re: UW-Milwaukee exploring adding D-1 hockey

    Originally posted by First Time, Long Time View Post
    He's just confused.
    You think!?

    I am the one who grew up in Racine, so I lived it. I remember when Festival Hall closed the ice rink. Sad, sad day.

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  • First Time, Long Time
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    Originally posted by Lady wore Black View Post
    Huh? I think you have me confused with FTLT.
    He's just confused.

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  • NMH
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    Not sure where people are getting their stats. From the Ads website, they averaged 6,027 last season. Conversely, the Wave drew 4,531. The Wave hasn't topped 5,000 since 2003-04.

    The article quoted about UWM wanting to move basketball on campus is over a year old. That push was really being done by former AD (and former Packer) George Koonce. Koonce was put on admin leave for undisclosed reasons and then resigned. There hasn't been much talk about it since he left. It's been more a vague "plan" for campus - kind of like every university has in case they magically get gifted millions of dollars.

    There's no info to back this up, but my experience with Admirals games is that Ads fans have absolutely no interest or knowledge of college hockey. We're often shocked when we talk to Ads season ticket holders who have never even been to a Badger game. You'd think that they'd support hockey at all levels, but they somehow seem to compartmentalize it. They don't even go to MSOE games, which are just down the street.

    It's a very strange dynamic and I don't know why it happens. The Badgers have been good and they won the Frozen Four when it was in Milwaukee. The Admirals bring the Badger Band to a game every season and no one knows the dances or the chants - we're pretty much there doing them by ourselves.

    Considering there's been a decent stream of college players - including Badgers - making there , way through the AHL, it doesn't make any sense that the fans aren't interested. We've gone to Ads games to see former Badgers come in with other teams - Burish, Earle, Skille, Davies, Dowell, Drewiske.

    Honestly, there were Ads fans who had no idea who Blake Geoffrion was til he was assigned to Milwaukee.

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  • JDUBBS1280
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    Originally posted by kingdobbs View Post
    Marquette is also adding lacrosse in the next couple of years, so I would not expect any movement to add a more expensive sport any time soon.
    Maybe.

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  • JDUBBS1280
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    Originally posted by ExileOnDaytonStreet View Post
    I'm still not sure how Marquette having a program that's been dead for 80 years makes them more likely than any other school to get one.
    That isn't the only factor I listed, but I do think the fact that they did have a D1 program at one point does mean something. There is history there.

    I don't think UWM is serious at all about starting a hockey program, but I do think the resources are there for Marquette to. And with a history in the sport, there should be interest in bringing the program back if the support for the sport exists in Milwaukee.

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  • kingdobbs
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    Originally posted by state of hockey View Post
    I think Marquette is happy putting all of its eggs in one basket.
    Marquette is also adding lacrosse in the next couple of years, so I would not expect any movement to add a more expensive sport any time soon.

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  • JohnsonsJerseys
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    The Admirals may not get 10,000 people a night, but in today's world of pro hockey where franchises come and go like the wind, the Admirals near 40 year existance in Milwaukee is certainly anything but a fly-by-night part of the Milwaukee sports scene. At the time of its construction, the Bradley Center was state of the art and was built with the hope of bringing an NHL franchise to Milwaukee. However nothing more than a few exhibition games were ever played.
    As for the chances that UWM gets a D-I team, I would say the chances are slim to none. There is a better chance of MSOE going D-I with their team.
    Ryan J

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  • ExileOnDaytonStreet
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    Originally posted by JDUBBS1280 View Post
    UWM never had a D1 program. Marquette did. Not saying either school will add a program, but IMO, if one did it would be Marquette.
    I'm still not sure how Marquette having a program that's been dead for 80 years makes them more likely than any other school to get one.

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  • JDUBBS1280
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    Originally posted by state of hockey View Post
    I think Marquette is happy putting all of its eggs in one basket.
    Maybe. I also think UWM is much more interested in adding football than hockey. I think Marquette would do well if they added hockey IMO.

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  • state of hockey
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    I think Marquette is happy putting all of its eggs in one basket.

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  • JDUBBS1280
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    Originally posted by jen View Post
    UWM also has club hockey (they play in the same division as Marquette, although I don't think they play each other) and a student body that is well over twice the size of Marquette's.

    just for the record, I don't think either school would add it, but Marquette isn't even talking about it.


    UWM never had a D1 program. Marquette did. Not saying either school will add a program, but IMO, if one did it would be Marquette.

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  • jen
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    Re: UW-Milwaukee exploring adding D-1 hockey

    Originally posted by JDUBBS1280 View Post
    I tried bringing this up earlier. Why doesn't Marquette move their club team to D1 if there is enough support in Milwaukee?

    - They have a history in the sport
    - They have alumni with deeper pockets
    - Most importantly, they already have a club team
    UWM also has club hockey (they play in the same division as Marquette, although I don't think they play each other) and a student body that is well over twice the size of Marquette's.

    just for the record, I don't think either school would add it, but Marquette isn't even talking about it.
    Last edited by jen; 11-03-2011, 07:20 PM.

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