NBC/Versus deal with College Hockey

[JDUBBS1280]

Did you read the article in which the President of the Big Ten Network said my figure was correct?

You continue to refuse to back up your posts with a shred of evidence. Where are the numbers to support your argument. Tell me how many people tune into Gophers games on FSN North and maybe then I will consider your point of view. Keep in mind that the Minneapolis/Saint Paul DMA comprises only 1.5% of the nation's television homes.

That's because my point is that the numbers of households that carry the networks is MEANINGLESS. Why should I debate a meaningless point?

It doesn't matter how many households the networks are available in, it only matters how many INTERESTED households they are available in.

You tell me. If there is more interest in college hockey out East than there is in the Midwest, then why do the schools in the Midwest have MUCH better regional TV deals?

[ND Hockey]

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Did I say they won't make money? That would be the definition of charity, right? I said they won't have as many viewers as the BTN.

When you're ready to stop putting words in my mouth and listen, let me know.

You said it would draw fewer viewers than the hunting programming it's replacing. Less viewers = less money.

[JDUBBS1280]

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By the way, that is the last time I tell you the # of households means squat compared to the # of interested households. If you can't grasp that concept, this discussion is a waste of my time.

[JDUBBS1280]

You said it would draw fewer viewers than the hunting programming it's replacing. Less viewers = less money.

I said YOUR games would draw less viewers than a hunting program. OUR games already out-draw the Wild and T-Wolves at times.

READ!

[Tipsy McStagger]

Right because Comcast is paying Notre Dame and Hockey East money to get lower ratings that cheaply produced programming. This is market driven. Comcast isn't a charity. They know it will draw viewers.

Right. Because it has drawn so many viewers in the past. No one KNOWS anything for sure, but the odds are that not many additional viewers will watch the Hockey East games just because they are on a national network.

[JDUBBS1280]

Right. Because it has drawn so many viewers in the past. No one KNOWS anything for sure, but the odds are that not many additional viewers will watch the Hockey East games just because they are on a national network.

My thoughts too. This TV deal is being WAAAAAAY overblown.

[ND Hockey]

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By the way, that is the last time I tell you the # of households means squat compared to the # of interested households. If you can't grasp that concept, this discussion is a waste of my time.

Translation: I have no evidence to back up my ridiculous statements, therefore I will make up a metric that cannot be measured. Versus is in virtually every household BTN is in and then at least 30 million more. It will certainly have more "interested households."

[ND Hockey]

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The problem some people seem to overlook in the discussion is the broadcasts are likely going to be mostly about local fans when all is said and done. Even if broadcast on a national scale, we all know that most of the people watching are going to have a major rooting interest with one of the two teams playing. And we all know how niche college hockey is in already niche sport.

Even the NHL games on Versus don't get a massive audience and those games are far more interesting to a typical hockey fan than a college game ever will be. For instance, opening day NHL games on Versus this year:



And that is OPENING night with some big name teams playing at a time when a lot of fans are amped up about the start of the season. You can bet it is even lower for your typical game in the middle of the season.

So let's be a tad more realistic when some of these fans on here try to talk all big about what a "national audience" is likely going to be for a college team on this channel.

But those numbers are almost useless, unless we know how many viewers were from Philadelphia and Boston. Probably only 25% of the audience was local. Fans in neutral markets tune in. Of course some on this board believe they are uninterested households and shouldn't count in our analysis, so let's throw out 400,000 viewers.

Comparing the college hockey to the NHL is a waste of time. Of course college hockey is not going to come close to the ratings NHL teams get. But we can speculate how they will improve due to the first national television deal in the sport's history.

[JDUBBS1280]

Translation: I have no evidence to back up my ridiculous statements, therefore I will make up a metric that cannot be measured. Versus is in virtually every household BTN is in and then at least 30 million more. It will certainly have more "interested households."

I explained it to you about a dozen times, and justified my reasoning. You're either just too stupid to understand, or not interested in listening.

We'll pick this up later. I have to go watch my team ON TV right now

[bigblue_dl]

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I explained it to you about a dozen times, and justified my reasoning. You're either just too stupid to understand, or not interested in listening.

We'll pick this up later. I have to go watch my team ON TV right now

Liar. The game isn't on for almost another hour.

[ND Hockey]

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Right. Because it has drawn so many viewers in the past. No one KNOWS anything for sure, but the odds are that not many additional viewers will watch the Hockey East games just because they are on a national network.

NESN is in 4 million households. Versus is in 75 million. Do the math.

[JDUBBS1280]

Liar. The game isn't on for almost another hour.

Pre game starts in 15 and I have to eat first

[uaafanblog]

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[JDUBBS1280]

NESN is in 4 million households. Versus is in 75 million. Do the math.

If there is so much demand for college hockey in the East, why wasn't there a better TV deal until now? Why didn't Hockey East get it's own national TV deal? Why haven't the schools in the East gotten better local or regional TV deals over the years? Why do the rinks out East, in general, have much smaller seating capacities than in the Midwest?

I'll grade your answers later

[Hammy]

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Translation: I have no evidence to back up my ridiculous statements

Do you mean "ridiculous" like acting like your college team is going to get oodles of viewers from those millions of households when the highest level of the sport can barely reach 600,000 viewers on that same station when it is opening day with big name NHL teams like Philly, Boston, and Pittsburgh? lol. Get a grip on reality.