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  • Re: Realignment Rumors

    The thing is, the remnants of the CCHA and WCHA really won't be all that bad. There is a possibility that nothing will happen. Both would be left with solid programs, but not marquee names that will fill JLA or the Xcel Center for the tourney.

    I also really have a hard time seeing the BTHC being all THAT exciting with just six teams.
    Arenas I have been to in (chronological order):

    Munn Arena: Michigan State
    Norris Center/Abel Arena: Lake Superior
    MacInnes Arena: Mich Tech
    Yost Arena: U-Mich
    Lakeview Arena: Nothern Mich
    Ewigleben Arena: Ferris State
    Lawson Arena: Western Mich.
    Mariucci Arena ('nuff said)
    Verizon Wireless Center: MN State
    Joyce Center: Notre Dame
    Berry Events Center: Northern Mich
    Matthews Arena: Northeastern

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      Well, I just put the "Rabbit" person on ignore. What a dumb schtick that is. I'd rather read hokydad posts.
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      • Re: Realignment Rumors

        Originally posted by peten16 View Post
        The thing is, the remnants of the CCHA and WCHA really won't be all that bad. There is a possibility that nothing will happen. Both would be left with solid programs, but not marquee names that will fill JLA or the Xcel Center for the tourney.

        I also really have a hard time seeing the BTHC being all THAT exciting with just six teams.
        Agree with you here. The rumors we heard this week are just ideas that are being thrown out there.

        I mean if Atlantic Hockey can survive, why can't the CCHA and WCHA?


        Originally posted by Runninwiththedogs View Post
        Well, I just put the "Rabbit" person on ignore. What a dumb schtick that is. I'd rather read hokydad posts.
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          http://www.indystar.com/article/2011...ey?odyssey=mod
          Certainly we recognize we're near the bottom (of the Big Ten) in the number of sports that we offer," said Purdue assistant athletic director Tom Schott; the school offers 18 varsity sports, compared to 34 at Ohio State and 31 at Penn State. "Should funding become available in the future, we certainly would like to add some sports. But that doesn't mean it will be hockey because of this announcement.''

          Indiana assistant athletic director J.D. Campbell was even more direct.

          "It's just not even on our radar now,'' he said.
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            Originally posted by Biddco View Post
            Agre
            I mean if Atlantic Hockey can survive, why can't the CCHA and WCHA?
            I think the CCHA and WCHA standing pat is the best outcome for the next few years. Sure, they lose a couple marquee teams each, but the retain: (1) a couple marquee teams each, (2) reasonable geography, (3) healthy, even numbers. Plus, they'll likely have more space on the schedule for non-conference games. I really think all 18 teams in question could survive.

            If one or both conferences get raided, however, that's when programs might be endangered.
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              Originally posted by Biddco View Post
              Agree with you here. The rumors we heard this week are just ideas that are being thrown out there.

              I mean if Atlantic Hockey can survive, why can't the CCHA and WCHA?
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                i beleiev that the demise of these leagues are WAY overblown.

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                  Originally posted by Rhett View Post
                  I think the CCHA and WCHA standing pat is the best outcome for the next few years. Sure, they lose a couple marquee teams each, but the retain: (1) a couple marquee teams each, (2) reasonable geography, (3) healthy, even numbers. Plus, they'll likely have more space on the schedule for non-conference games. I really think all 18 teams in question could survive.

                  If one or both conferences get raided, however, that's when programs might be endangered.
                  I think UAH now has a solid chance of being added to the CCHA (which I'd be okay with) but other than that we may not see much change. I keep running it through my head and there is no obvious new conference to be carved out.
                  Arenas I have been to in (chronological order):

                  Munn Arena: Michigan State
                  Norris Center/Abel Arena: Lake Superior
                  MacInnes Arena: Mich Tech
                  Yost Arena: U-Mich
                  Lakeview Arena: Nothern Mich
                  Ewigleben Arena: Ferris State
                  Lawson Arena: Western Mich.
                  Mariucci Arena ('nuff said)
                  Verizon Wireless Center: MN State
                  Joyce Center: Notre Dame
                  Berry Events Center: Northern Mich
                  Matthews Arena: Northeastern

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                    Just for giggles
                    Put the true D-I's in one conference and the play-ups in the others. See what shakes out - you may be surprised.
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                      Originally posted by joecct View Post
                      Just for giggles
                      Put the true D-I's in one conference and the play-ups in the others. See what shakes out - you may be surprised.
                      well... the proposed "Liberty League" idea would actually be i believe 5 of the 6 play-ups. Although 3 are able to offer scholarships.

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                        Originally posted by GoNU5 View Post
                        As a Hockey East fan, I would hate it. Adding Notre Dame and Miami would squeeze the peripheral Hockey East teams like Merrimack, Northeastern, Vermont, etc. Teams that could make a run every few years at the Hockey East title and pop into the NCAA playoffs every once in a while will likely find it a lot harder to get there.
                        I think adding teams like Miami and Notre Dame would be a serious error which would warp the image and brand of the league as a new england or northeast based league... there's miles and miles of distinction between the Notre Dame brand and Notre Dame hockey and Miami doesn't appear to me to be worth the geographic jump. Neither program is of the size that justifies moving so far out of our current footprint. Adding either program to Hockey East would be a mistake... further, the league should leave itself flexibility if in case there are more geographically closer teams who make the jump.
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                          Originally posted by peten16 View Post
                          I think UAH now has a solid chance of being added to the CCHA (which I'd be okay with) but other than that we may not see much change. I keep running it through my head and there is no obvious new conference to be carved out.
                          It's very unlikely that the CCHA will add UAH, although personally I would love to see it happen. But the fact that Miami is the only one within a single day's bus ride makes it less likely.
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                          • Originally posted by gophfan View Post
                            i beleiev that the demise of these leagues are WAY overblown.
                            trust me, we know.
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                              Originally posted by peten16 View Post
                              I think UAH now has a solid chance of being added to the CCHA (which I'd be okay with) but other than that we may not see much change. I keep running it through my head and there is no obvious new conference to be carved out.
                              Originally posted by davyd83 View Post
                              It's very unlikely that the CCHA will add UAH, although personally I would love to see it happen. But the fact that Miami is the only one within a single day's bus ride makes it less likely.
                              I really wish I could be more optimistic about UAH that I am.

                              They are sitting around hoping for "mass chaos" to occur, but truthfully, even if an anti-BTHC happens, why would the WCHA remnants (UAA, BSU, MSUM, UMD, SCSU, and Tech) or CCHA remnants (WMU, Ferris, NMU, LSSU, UA_ and BGSU) want to make annual trips to Alabama? They could easily get a 20 game conference schedule and get OOC games with each other/BTHC, or combine for a solid 12 team conf and get OOC games with the BTHC. How does UAH fit in that scenario?

                              Not to mention that for the 11 years of the CHA, all I heard from Huntsville folks was, "the President and AD fully support D-I hockey at UAH." Well, unfortunately, Jim Harris passed away last December and was replaced by an AD from a non-hockey school; plus the president resigned only a month ago. Who knows if hockey will be a priority for either new hire, or if they will look at a program that costs a lot of money to operate and hasn't had a lot of success the last few years - it has, however, supposedly made money for the athletic department.
                              Current NCAA D-I rinks I've been to:

                              AHA:
                              B1G: UMinn, UWisc
                              ECAC:
                              HEA: UMass, Notre Dame
                              NCHC: UMD, UND, SCSU, WMU
                              WCHA: UAH, BSU, FSU, LSSU, MSU, MTU, NMU

                              Inactive: BSU, UMD, UND, NMU, Notre Dame

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                              • Re: Realignment Rumors

                                Okay everyone calm down.
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