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  • #16
    Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    Isn't PC also one of the founding members?
    Isn't UML also one of the founding members?

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    • #17
      Re: It's Realignment time, it's realignment time! Make it work

      Originally posted by joecct View Post
      My plan leaves room for URI, Navy, and other BCS schools to join a conference. And, if it pains everyone so much, remember the WCHA - HEA interlock?? It could apply to the Ivy - Empire - AHA mix, if the conferences don't want to play 4x against each other.
      None of this makes any sense. These schools aren't going to start programs just because you demand it. If your proposed Ivy and Empire leagues are going to have some kind of "interlock," what is the problem with the way things are right now? The ECAC isn't going to dissolve itself in order to help OTHER schools with the decision to start programs.

      And why is there this hard and fast rule that conferences can't go over 12 teams? Who decided this was a thing?
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      • #18
        Re: It's Realignment time, it's realignment time! Make it work

        Originally posted by bluevox View Post
        So where does Notre Dame end up?
        Originally posted by WildShawn View Post
        And uconn?

        "BTHC (8 teams)"

        Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Penn State, Notre Dame, Uconn.
        Big Ten goes to 16 teams (likely candidates to fill the other spots are Kansas, Missouri, Syracuse and Rutgers). Notre Dame can even join for hockey only if they want. Gets the camel's nose under the tent.
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        • #19
          Re: It's Realignment time, it's realignment time! Make it work

          Originally posted by AFHockeyFan View Post
          "BTHC (8 teams)"

          Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Penn State, Notre Dame, Uconn. Big Ten goes to 16 teams (likely candidates are Kansas and Missouri, Syracuse or Rutgers).
          Um...not a chance. This is BIG TEN...not Big Ten Plus others. If the Big Ten were to take anyone it would be Notre Dame, but they have stated that Notre Dame has to join in all sports to be in.

          And I believe their answer to Miami to join was "No, you're a MAC school." They arent going to let a lesser hockey team, let alone a Big East team in. Sorry, this is a Big 0% Chance of happening. In fact, there is a better chance of Earth getting hit by an asteroid in the next 72 hours than this happening.
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          • #20
            Re: It's Realignment time, it's realignment time! Make it work

            Originally posted by NMU8405 View Post
            This is BIG TEN...not Big Ten Plus others.
            It's already the Big Twelve, which is the Big Ten plus at least two others.

            Originally posted by NMU8405 View Post
            They arent going to let a lesser hockey team, let alone a Big East team in.
            UConn would be full member in the expansion to sixteen. They are an up-and-comer in all major sports--football had a BCS bid this year and played at the Big House, men's and women's hoops are always solid, and they hosted a baseball regional last year and are ranked again this year--quality in all three major sports. Hockey gives the rest of the conference a doormat for a while until that program grows. Plus you finally add the East Coast market for the network. UConn is a natural choice for expansion.
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            • #21
              Re: It's Realignment time, it's realignment time! Make it work

              Originally posted by AFHockeyFan View Post
              "BTHC (8 teams)"

              Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Penn State, Notre Dame, Uconn.
              Big Ten goes to 16 teams (likely candidates to fill the other spots are Kansas, Missouri, Syracuse and Rutgers). Notre Dame can even join for hockey only if they want. Gets the camel's nose under the tent.
              The Big 10 does not accept partial members. Will never happen.

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              • #22
                Re: It's Realignment time, it's realignment time! Make it work

                The most likely scenario is very little change. The BTHC teams will have their conference, the rest of the teams will probably line up just as they are, except I don't understand why AF isn't in the WCHA, and sharing the Alaska travel pain made sense once but not now when the CCHA is going to have serious money worries.

                There is no reason for the eastern conferences to be affected at all.
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                • #23
                  Re: It's Realignment time, it's realignment time! Make it work

                  Originally posted by AFHockeyFan View Post
                  It's already the Big Twelve, which is the Big Ten plus at least two others.
                  Teams that only want to be partial Big Ten programs need not apply. We're elitist like that. All or Nothing. Deal with it.
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                  • #24
                    Re: It's Realignment time, it's realignment time! Make it work

                    Originally posted by AFHockeyFan View Post
                    It's already the Big Twelve, which is the Big Ten plus at least two others.
                    IF Notre Dame wanted to join the Big Ten (lets face it no way they are just going to join the Hockey league as the Big Ten wouldn't allow that) then the Big Ten would find someone to take that other spot. They for sure wouldn't take UConn.
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                    • #25
                      Re: It's Realignment time, it's realignment time! Make it work

                      Ok, let's play what if for a second. These are rumors, but where there is smoke there is fire generally.

                      What if the revenue the CCHA team get from their remaining structure falls short of what they need, and two if not more of those teams drop hockey.

                      What if revenue in the remaining WCHA schools is about the same as before, ( a stretch I know)

                      what if additional present Big Ten schools add hockey, say two of them in 2015.

                      Where would we be then as a college hockey community?

                      This imho, is the real problem.
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                      • #26
                        Re: It's Realignment time, it's realignment time! Make it work

                        Originally posted by bluevox View Post
                        So where does Notre Dame end up?
                        And why would the CCHA lose them?
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                        • #27
                          Re: It's Realignment time, it's realignment time! Make it work

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          The most likely scenario is very little change. The BTHC teams will have their conference, the rest of the teams will probably line up just as they are, except I don't understand why AF isn't in the WCHA, and sharing the Alaska travel pain made sense once but not now when the CCHA is going to have serious money worries.

                          There is no reason for the eastern conferences to be affected at all.
                          I also think there will be very little change. I see the WCHA staying at 10, BTHC-6, CCHA either stays at 8 or could possibly add UAH, RMU and Mercyhurst bringing it back to 11 schools, AHA-10 or 12, ECAC-12 and HEA-10.

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                          • #28
                            Re: It's Realignment time, it's realignment time! Make it work

                            Why don't they take out the Ivy Leagues give them their own conference. Take The Air Force Academy, and put them into the WCHA. Then combine the remaining AHA schools into a new ECAC. You could also probably reunite the two Alaska schools into one conference.

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                            • #29
                              Re: It's Realignment time, it's realignment time! Make it work

                              Originally posted by Spidermonkey86 View Post
                              Why don't they take out the Ivy Leagues give them their own conference. Take The Air Force Academy, and put them into the WCHA. Then combine the remaining AHA schools into a new ECAC. You could also probably reunite the two Alaska schools into one conference.
                              Air Force will stay with their rival Army...and with the rumors of Navy starting a program that would fit in the AHA...I doubt they will go anywhere.
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                              • #30
                                Re: It's Realignment time, it's realignment time! Make it work

                                Originally posted by Spidermonkey86 View Post
                                Why don't they take out the Ivy Leagues give them their own conference. Take The Air Force Academy, and put them into the WCHA. Then combine the remaining AHA schools into a new ECAC. You could also probably reunite the two Alaska schools into one conference.
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