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    A very interesting article in the NY Times indicating that the forces are in place to eliminate fighting in the US and Canadian junior leagues as early as next season. What will happen to fighting in the NHL with players coming up through the ranks not being taught or using it? I would suspect fighting in the NHL would eventually be eliminated. With no fighting in juniors do those leagues, especially the CHL in Canada, become more like college hockey?

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    Re: NY Times - Fighting Could Be Eliminated in Amateur Hockey in US and Canada

    I find it more laughable that they consider Major Junior to be amateur, yet the NCAA won't let Major Junior players in.

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      Re: NY Times - Fighting Could Be Eliminated in Amateur Hockey in US and Canada

      From the NYTimes article:

      "Some N.A.H.L. rivals still feature bare-knuckled teenagers on the banner of their Web sites."

      Allowing teenagers to bare-knuckle fight in front of an audience is bad enough. Encouraging and rewarding it is despicable.

      How many decades ago did professional boxing ban bare-knuckle fighting?
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        Originally posted by C-H-C View Post
        Allowing teenagers to bare-knuckle fight in front of an audience is bad enough. Encouraging and rewarding it is despicable.

        How many decades ago did professional boxing ban bare-knuckle fighting?


        What do you expect them to do, fight with their gloves on? Or do prefer brass knuckles instead of bare knuckles?
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        The fact that you BC fans revel in the superiority of your team in an admittedly weak league leads me to believe you will be more sorely disappointed when the end comes than we will.

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          Olympic and college hockey have the right idea. Reward the skills of the players.
          Grooming "thugs" is not part of youth hockey.
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            Originally posted by Nick Papagiorgio View Post


            What do you expect them to do, fight with their gloves on? Or do prefer brass knuckles instead of bare knuckles?
            How about a trash-talking contest instead? whomever splutters first, loses.
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            • #7
              Re: NY Times - Fighting Could Be Eliminated in Amateur Hockey in US and Canada

              Works for me.

              I look forward to the day that it's gone from the NHL also.

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                I will believe it when I see it... Take fighting out of hockey and the pukes like Matt Cooke, Maxim Lapierre will run wild and take liberties up and down the ice against skilled players knowing they don't have to fight either.
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                  Originally posted by Goon View Post
                  I will believe it when I see it... Take fighting out of hockey and the pukes like Matt Cooke, Maxim Lapierre will run wild and take liberties up and down the ice against skilled players knowing they don't have to fight either.
                  So how did Cooke and Lapierre and Tucker get their reps? There is fighting in the game now and it isn't stopping them from taking liberties. What a dumb argument.
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                    Re: NY Times - Fighting Could Be Eliminated in Amateur Hockey in US and Canada

                    Originally posted by Goon View Post
                    I will believe it when I see it... Take fighting out of hockey and the pukes like Matt Cooke, Maxim Lapierre will run wild and take liberties up and down the ice against skilled players knowing they don't have to fight either.
                    Yep.
                    Originally posted by Greg Ambrose on 3/7/2010
                    The fact that you BC fans revel in the superiority of your team in an admittedly weak league leads me to believe you will be more sorely disappointed when the end comes than we will.

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                      Re: NY Times - Fighting Could Be Eliminated in Amateur Hockey in US and Canada

                      Originally posted by Goon View Post
                      I will believe it when I see it... Take fighting out of hockey and the pukes like Matt Cooke, Maxim Lapierre will run wild and take liberties up and down the ice against skilled players knowing they don't have to fight either.
                      So they'll act like MacWilliam, Blood, and Frattin?

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                        No bare knuckle fighting??? " We're puttin on the foil, coach "
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                          Re: NY Times - Fighting Could Be Eliminated in Amateur Hockey in US and Canada

                          Originally posted by C-H-C View Post
                          Allowing teenagers to bare-knuckle fight in front of an audience is bad enough. Encouraging and rewarding it is despicable.
                          I think this is exactly right. I don't have strong feelings about fighting in the pros, but it shouldn't be allowed or encouraged at lower levels with teenagers.

                          For what its worth, I think there will always be fighting in the NHL unless the league bans it. Getting rid of it in juniors won't automatically end fighting in the pros.
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                            Re: NY Times - Fighting Could Be Eliminated in Amateur Hockey in US and Canada

                            So what? You're going to have a rule that say "no fighting"?
                            Just as a note... Tripping, hooking, slashing, boarding, holding, interference, cross-checking, roughing, etc were also "eliminated" from hockey many years ago. How is that working?
                            You can make it less frequent with stiffer penalties as US college do now, but you won't stop it.
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                              Re: NY Times - Fighting Could Be Eliminated in Amateur Hockey in US and Canada

                              Originally posted by JohnsonsJerseys View Post
                              So what? You're going to have a rule that say "no fighting"?
                              Just as a note... Tripping, hooking, slashing, boarding, holding, interference, cross-checking, roughing, etc were also "eliminated" from hockey many years ago. How is that working?
                              You can make it less frequent with stiffer penalties as US college do now, but you won't stop it.
                              Ryan J
                              Tripping, hooking, etc aren't so much banned as regulated. You don't get the gate for doing any of those things unless you do it with intent to injure. Saying they are eliminated in hockey is like saying pitching out of the strikezone in baseball was eliminated because if you do it four times the batter walks. If you hook somebody there is a power play which is just an in-game penalty. I think that is different than to say these behaviors are banned.
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