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dxmnkd316
02-11-2012, 01:12 AM
The video isn't exactly clear on where Rau's hands are, but given the movement of Zucker's head, my best guess is Rau got them up under his chin. Not exactly elbow to the side of the head bad, but still bad.

So again: lined up from a distance (charging), high hit, late hit, and the guy got hurt. Should the WCHA choose to add a suspension to the penalty on Rau, I will have no problem with it whatsoever. This kind of crap simply cannot be tolerated.

So because he got hurt, it should be a DQ? WHat about the hit on Leddy a few years back. Got knocked out for a long time. I said it now and I'll say it again: The guy didn't deserve a suspension and probably didn't deserve a penalty.

Any hit that results in an injury deserves a DQ for you huh?

The Rube
02-11-2012, 01:12 AM
So two important facts are missing from this thread. I was there and the hit happened right in front of me. In my opinion the hit should of resulted in a DQ. One, it was pay back and straight to the head. Zucker (as he is apt to do) ran his mouth to the Gopher bench after he scored (about 2-4 minutes before the hit). This was a stupid thing to do. I'm not justifying Rau's action in any shape or form. Simply pointing out that there was a connection. The hit was not random. Interesting that a team mate from Team USA would do this. Secondly, neither one of the refs saw the hit. Bokal raised his arm late. If he didn't see it, how can you expect him to get the call right? They can review and add the DQ after the game. You always here talk about how they are cracking down on shots to the head. If this hit isn't a DQ then that is a complete line of BS.

It was a DQ, and personally, a game. I'd hope for not a game, but meh. Dangerous hit, obvious cheap shot. Rau is NOT that type of guy, but he lost it on this one. Period.

Old Pio
02-11-2012, 01:13 AM
Even to my "unbiased" eyes it seems clear the Gophers put a target on JZ's back. They were head hunting him quite a bit and were successful. He needed stiches after one hit and was knocked out of the game (and perhaps longer) after the second. All in a period and a half. It's the merest coincidence the second hit came shortly after JZ scored. Some of this is just part of hockey. But IMO it crossed the line tonight.

Last year when Jesse Martin was very nearly killed, we got lectures from Sioux fans about how "he had his head down." That seemed to me to miss the gravity of the situation a bit. Then tonight pious Gopher fans lined up to criticize me for suggesting someone should insert a stick in Rau's rump and break it off. Why, lordy, you can't suggest physical violence against a player, even one who deliberately hurt one of the better players in the league. That wouldn't be cricket. Bosh. As if those same pious people wouldn't have approximately the same response if the situation were reversed. My hypocrisyometer went off big time.

Now the truth of the matter is I don't want anything to happen to Rau (although losing a handful of his teeth wouldn't bother me much) I was just blowing off steam. As to what, if any, punishment will be coming his way, anything or nothing is fine by me. Of far more importance is JZ's health and quick return to the lineup. DU's had more than it's share of injuries this year and just can't stand to lose more players. Especially first rate players like JZ.

dxmnkd316
02-11-2012, 01:16 AM
Even to my "unbiased" eyes it seems clear the Gophers put a target on JZ's back. They were head hunting him quite a bit and were successful. He needed stiches after one hit and was knocked out of the game (and perhaps longer) after the second. It's the merest coincidence the second hit came shortly after JZ scored.
Some of this is just part of hockey. But IMO it crossed the line tonight.

Last year when Jesse Martin was very nearly killed, we got lectures from Sioux fans about how "he had his head down." That seemed to me to miss the gravity of the situation a bit. Then tonight pious Gopher fans lined up to criticize me for suggesting someone should insert a stick in Rau's rump and break it off. Why, lordy, you can't suggest physical violence against a player, even one who deliberately hurt one of the better players in the league. That wouldn't be cricket. Bosh. As if those same pious people wouldn't have approximately the same response if the situation were reversed. My hypocrisyometer went off big time.

Now the truth of the matter is I don't want anything to happen to Rau (although losing a handfull of his teeth wouldn't bother me much) I was just blowing off steam. As almost anyone would under similar circumstances.
As to what, if any, punishment will be coming his way, anything is fine by me. Of far more importance is JZ's health and quick return to the lineup. DU's had more than it's share of injuries this year and just can't stand to lose more players. Especially first rate players like JZ.

If you think the high stick by Bjugstad was intentional, I've got a bridge to sell you.

Bakunin
02-11-2012, 01:16 AM
You can say he hit his head all you want but the video shows something completely different. THe first video clip, the one where they circle the play in red, clearly shows Rau hitting him below the head. Not the face.
The chin is part of the head, and Rau definitely brought his hands up.

And yes, if a player commits a dangerous hit against another player as Rau did, a suspension should definitely be in play as a means of punishment. If you believe an injury or lack thereof shouldn't enter into it, you're being naive with regard to how the league handles these things.

The Rube
02-11-2012, 01:18 AM
If you think the high stick by Bjugstad was intentional, I've got a bridge to sell you.

This.

MagnessMan
02-11-2012, 01:18 AM
Even to my "unbiased" eyes it seems clear the Gophers put a target on JZ's back. They were head hunting him quite a bit and were successful. He needed stiches after one hit and was knocked out of the game (and perhaps longer) after the second. It's the merest coincidence the second hit came shortly after JZ scored.
Some of this is just part of hockey. But IMO it crossed the line tonight.

Last year when Jesse Martin was very nearly killed, we got lectures from Sioux fans about how "he had his head down." That seemed to me to miss the gravity of the situation a bit. Then tonight pious Gopher fans lined up to criticize me for suggesting someone should insert a stick in Rau's rump and break it off. Why, lordy, you can't suggest physical violence against a player, even one who deliberately hurt one of the better players in the league. That wouldn't be cricket. Bosh. As if those same pious people wouldn't have approximately the same response if the situation were reversed. My hypocrisyometer went off big time.

Now the truth of the matter is I don't want anything to happen to Rau (although losing a handfull of his teeth wouldn't bother me much) I was just blowing off steam. As almost anyone would under similar circumstances.
As to what, if any, punishment will be coming his way, anything is fine by me. Of far more importance is JZ's health and quick return to the lineup. DU's had more than it's share of injuries this year and just can't stand to lose more players. Especially first rate players like JZ.

Bottom line most important thing is the player's condition. Based on what Gwoz said post game, I'm optimistic. " No head or neck trauma and went for x-rays as a precautionary measure". He's a tough kid. He'll be back soon. GREAT WIN FOR THE PIOS!!!!!

dxmnkd316
02-11-2012, 01:19 AM
The chin is part of the head, and Rau definitely brought his hands up.

And yes, if a player commits a dangerous hit against another player as Rau did, a suspension should definitely be in play as a means of punishment. If you believe an injury or lack thereof shouldn't enter into it, you're being naive with regard to how the league handles these things.

You spelled chest wrong.

The Rube
02-11-2012, 01:21 AM
You spelled chest wrong.

You got the penalty wrong. Call t even. ;)

Dude Love
02-11-2012, 01:23 AM
What did Rau get called for? 5 minutes for charging and a DQ?

Bakunin
02-11-2012, 01:23 AM
All this thread needs is Kevin Costner to replay the footage over and over again while attempting to convince us of his bat**** conclusion as to what happened.

It isn't exactly Zapruder, but it's getting **** close.

Oh, and Woog > Dx. So there.

dxmnkd316
02-11-2012, 01:23 AM
You got the penalty wrong. Call t even. ;)

This made me laugh. Well played.

Old Pio
02-11-2012, 01:27 AM
Bottom line most important thing is the player's condition. Based on what Gwoz said post game, I'm optimistic. " No head or neck trauma and went for x-rays as a precautionary measure". He's a tough kid. He'll be back soon. GREAT WIN FOR THE PIOS!!!!!

Absent a fracture or dislocation, I'm optimistic, too. The kid is tough as nails.

dxmnkd316
02-11-2012, 01:30 AM
I sure as hell hope he's back in the next few weeks. Mostly for selfish Minnesota Wild based reasons. But also because I don't like seeing kids get hurt/

Old Pio
02-11-2012, 01:30 AM
If you think the high stick by Bjugstad was intentional, I've got a bridge to sell you.


So if you collect tolls long enough you get to sell the bridge? Nice.

dxmnkd316
02-11-2012, 01:33 AM
So if you collect tolls long enough you get to sell the bridge? Nice.

$1.50.

MagnessMan
02-11-2012, 01:35 AM
Absent a fracture or dislocation, I'm optimistic, too. The kid is tough as nails.

Dater tweeted that it could be shoulder.

Old Pio
02-11-2012, 01:38 AM
Dater tweeted that it could be shoulder.

Well, we'll just be on tenterhooks until we hear. Drat.

Gurtholfin
02-11-2012, 01:45 AM
Well, we'll just be on tenterhooks until we hear. Drat.

Had to google that. :)

You are, in fact old, Pio. :D

MagnessMan
02-11-2012, 01:51 AM
Had to google that. :)

You are, in fact old, Pio. :D

Me too! I learned a new word on the boards. All this time is worth something after all! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenterhook