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    Question for people with more time than I have right now:

    Plattsburgh, Elmira, and RIT all have four games left with teams other than each other. If all three hold serve in those games (and I know it's a big if - Elmira and RIT play Oswego and Plattsburgh has to travel to Utica), the league standings would come down to the RIT/Elmira showdown next weekend. I've quickly played out the scenarios of that weekend and have come up with the following:

    RIT/Elmira split: Elmira finishes first (by tiebreaker of most league wins), Plattsburgh second, RIT third
    RIT/Elmira two ties: Plattsburgh first (by tiebreaker of most league wins), Elmira second, RIT third
    RIT sweep: RIT first, Plattsburgh second, Elmira third
    Elmira sweep: Elmira first, Plattsburgh second, RIT third
    RIT takes 3 points: Plattsburgh first (by head-to-head tiebreaker), RIT second, Elmira third
    Elmira takes 3 points: Elmira first, Plattsburgh second, RIT third

    Two observations:

    I don't seem to have a scenario where Plattsburgh finishes lower than second....
    Plattsburgh's early season tie with Neumann could be costly...in the case of an RIT/Elmira split, it's the difference between first and second.

    This was very quick math, so let me know if I missed something.
    Steve
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    Re: ECAC West Div III race

    Originally posted by spwood View Post
    Question for people with more time than I have right now:

    Plattsburgh, Elmira, and RIT all have four games left with teams other than each other. If all three hold serve in those games (and I know it's a big if - Elmira and RIT play Oswego and Plattsburgh has to travel to Utica), the league standings would come down to the RIT/Elmira showdown next weekend. I've quickly played out the scenarios of that weekend and have come up with the following:

    RIT/Elmira split: Elmira finishes first (by tiebreaker of most league wins), Plattsburgh second, RIT third
    RIT/Elmira two ties: Plattsburgh first (by tiebreaker of most league wins), Elmira second, RIT third
    RIT sweep: RIT first, Plattsburgh second, Elmira third
    Elmira sweep: Elmira first, Plattsburgh second, RIT third
    RIT takes 3 points: Plattsburgh first (by head-to-head tiebreaker), RIT second, Elmira third
    Elmira takes 3 points: Elmira first, Plattsburgh second, RIT third

    Two observations:

    I don't seem to have a scenario where Plattsburgh finishes lower than second....
    Plattsburgh's early season tie with Neumann could be costly...in the case of an RIT/Elmira split, it's the difference between first and second.

    This was very quick math, so let me know if I missed something.
    I think you've got it.
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    • #3
      Re: ECAC West Div III race

      Originally posted by spwood View Post
      Question for people with more time than I have right now:

      Plattsburgh, Elmira, and RIT all have four games left with teams other than each other. If all three hold serve in those games (and I know it's a big if - Elmira and RIT play Oswego and Plattsburgh has to travel to Utica), the league standings would come down to the RIT/Elmira showdown next weekend. I've quickly played out the scenarios of that weekend and have come up with the following:

      RIT/Elmira split: Elmira finishes first (by tiebreaker of most league wins), Plattsburgh second, RIT third
      RIT/Elmira two ties: Plattsburgh first (by tiebreaker of most league wins), Elmira second, RIT third
      RIT sweep: RIT first, Plattsburgh second, Elmira third
      Elmira sweep: Elmira first, Plattsburgh second, RIT third
      RIT takes 3 points: Plattsburgh first (by head-to-head tiebreaker), RIT second, Elmira third
      Elmira takes 3 points: Elmira first, Plattsburgh second, RIT third

      Two observations:

      I don't seem to have a scenario where Plattsburgh finishes lower than second....
      Plattsburgh's early season tie with Neumann could be costly...in the case of an RIT/Elmira split, it's the difference between first and second.

      This was very quick math, so let me know if I missed something.
      Yup lines up with my earlier post in the RIT thread, which indicated, for RIT to not finish third, they would have to get at least three points out of the Elmira series (assuming no other points spoiled)
      All Elmira needs is a split to finish at least top two and get a bye.

      RIT and Elmira still have destiny in their own hand, if they want to finish first.
      Despite the fact Plattsburgh has the HTH over both Elmira and RIT, they do NOT control their own destiny for first place.

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      • #4
        Re: ECAC West Div III race

        Originally posted by OnMAA View Post
        Yup lines up with my earlier post in the RIT thread, which indicated, for RIT to not finish third, they would have to get at least three points out of the Elmira series (assuming no other points spoiled)
        All Elmira needs is a split to finish at least top two and get a bye.

        RIT and Elmira still have destiny in their own hand, if they want to finish first.
        Despite the fact Plattsburgh has the HTH over both Elmira and RIT, they do NOT control their own destiny for first place.
        Well, Plattsburgh doesn't hold the head-to-head over Elmira as they split 1-1 during the year. In case of a tie, league wins is the #2 tie breaker (which Elmira would win with a split with RIT, but would lose with two ties to RIT).

        We as fans are allowed to look ahead like this, but, again, all three teams have other business to take care of to make this analysis useful...
        Steve
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          Re: ECAC West Div III race

          Originally posted by spwood View Post
          Well, Plattsburgh doesn't hold the head-to-head over Elmira as they split 1-1 during the year. In case of a tie, league wins is the #2 tie breaker (which Elmira would win with a split with RIT, but would lose with two ties to RIT).

          We as fans are allowed to look ahead like this, but, again, all three teams have other business to take care of to make this analysis useful...
          Well, ole' "Platty" sure didn't impress today.....they were tied 1-1 with lolely Cortland going into the 3rd and seemed to barely hang on for the 3-1 win! It looks like Platty's still got work to do before they get ahead of themselves....

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          • #6
            Re: ECAC West Div III race

            Hey...whadya know...there are some Platty fans out there!! Good to hear from you...where've you been?? I've been manning the fort alone all season long!

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              Congrats to Coach Kevin Houle on his 200th victory yesterday. His .850 winning percentage is impressive for any division!!


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              • #8
                Originally posted by chippy View Post
                Well, ole' "Platty" sure didn't impress today.....they were tied 1-1 with lolely Cortland going into the 3rd and seemed to barely hang on for the 3-1 win! It looks like Platty's still got work to do before they get ahead of themselves....

                Chip
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                • #9
                  Re: ECAC West Div III race

                  Originally posted by chippy View Post
                  Well, ole' "Platty" sure didn't impress today.....they were tied 1-1 with lolely Cortland going into the 3rd and seemed to barely hang on for the 3-1 win! It looks like Platty's still got work to do before they get ahead of themselves....

                  Chip
                  Bird got your tongue?
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                  • #10
                    Re: ECAC West Div III race

                    Originally posted by PSUChamps2001 View Post
                    Bird got your tongue?
                    Guess that 10-0 second game shut him/her up...!!

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                    • #11
                      Re: ECAC West Div III race

                      Originally posted by SeymoreHockey View Post
                      Guess that 10-0 second game shut him/her up...!!
                      8-7...???...Nope....

                      Chip

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by chippy View Post
                        8-7...???...Nope....

                        Chip
                        Haha I was sitting here thinking I wonder if he/she will be a tool and finally respond after last night...thanks for making my day....
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                        • #13
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                          Not to get back on point or anything, but things got real simple after last night's 5-1 win by RIT. This afternoon's RIT/Elmira game means this:

                          Elmira win - They are in the driver's seat for the ECAC West Regular Season Title
                          RIT win - RIT is in the driver's seat for the #1 seed
                          Tie - Plattsburgh is in the driver's seat for the title...

                          Crazy! Of course, with the #1 seed comes hosting the ECAC West Final Four as well as only needing to beat one of the Big Three to win the tourney title. Huge game today in Elmira....
                          Last edited by spwood; 02-11-2012, 07:25 AM.
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                            Re: ECAC West Div III race

                            Looks like Plattsburgh is in first place as they would win the H2H against RIT, or so it shows that as of right now. Will it change next week after RIT finishes up league play
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                            • #15
                              Re: ECAC West Div III race

                              Originally posted by gotice View Post
                              Looks like Plattsburgh is in first place as they would win the H2H against RIT, or so it shows that as of right now. Will it change next week after RIT finishes up league play
                              Yes...Plattsburgh is up 1 point, they have 1 game left...RIT has 2. RIT would have to tie Cortland(highly unlikely) in order for Plattsburgh to win the league.


                              It appears that it will be 1. RIT 2. Plattsburgh 3. Elmira fortunately for Elmira with the expansion to 8 teams all 3 will make the NCAA's this year. Even if they don't make it the ECAC-W title game. Unless of course they lose in the quarters...then they might be out.
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