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    Not that it will come to this, but how would the selection committee choose which team to compare in the case of a tie in the regional rankings? GAC and UWSP are both tied for 4th in the West. Which one would get the nod to be compared to an eastern team first - is there any objectivity to it?
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      Originally posted by nysportsfan29 View Post
      Not that it will come to this, but how would the selection committee choose which team to compare in the case of a tie in the regional rankings? GAC and UWSP are both tied for 4th in the West. Which one would get the nod to be compared to an eastern team first - is there any objectivity to it?
      When the committee does the final rankings there won't be ties - they will hammer it out.
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        Originally posted by NUProf View Post
        When the committee does the final rankings there won't be ties - they will hammer it out.
        That makes sense.

        NCAA Quarterfinals games will be played on a Saturday, correct?
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          Originally posted by nysportsfan29 View Post
          That makes sense.

          NCAA Quarterfinals games will be played on a Saturday, correct?
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          • Re: Tournament Speculation Thread

            Well take Utica off your Pool C boards folks...
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              The Pool C picture just got a whole lot murkier.

              Elmira, Manhattanville, and Utica all lose in the East while St. Thomas and St. Scholastica also fall out West.

              The question is do Bowdoin and Neumann move up in the rankings enough to enter the discussion. Going to be an interesting last set of rankings we get.
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              • Originally posted by nysportsfan29 View Post
                The Pool C picture just got a whole lot murkier.

                Elmira, Manhattanville, and Utica all lose in the East while St. Thomas and St. Scholastica also fall out West.

                The question is do Bowdoin and Neumann move up in the rankings enough to enter the discussion. Going to be an interesting last set of rankings we get.
                I think all the schools that lost yesterday are done. The one exception would be MAYBE Elmira if everyone else holds serve.

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                  Originally posted by altazo View Post
                  I think all the schools that lost yesterday are done. The one exception would be MAYBE Elmira if everyone else holds serve.
                  I'm feeling that Elmira is still in an OK spot at this point. One of the Pool C's is already claimed by either Plattsburgh or Oswego - that much is certain. IIRC, the other website had the other 2 Pool C's as Elmira and St. Scholastica (if one of those guys see this post, I'm only seeing the Feb. 15th edition of their projections).

                  CSS, Elmira, St. Thomas all lost to ranked teams so that should soften the blow a bit. I'm not sure if Elmira will drop in the rankings simply because the two teams below them (Utica, M'ville) lost and the next team after that (Bowdoin) beat an unranked team. Then there's Neumann who did beat two ranked teams this week - obviously including Elmira. I think they'll be in for the biggest jump but I'm not sure they would go all the way from 9 to 5. Middlebury may jump over Bowdoin too with a win over a ranked team. With Stevens Point's victory of CSS, I'm thinking they may actually move up to #2 in the West since they were tied for 4th last week.

                  At this point, Elmira needs a good amount of help to make it in (if they hold serve at 5 in the East). Bowdoin and Middlebury play each other next week so one of them is going to get another win over a ranked team. Elmira probably needs whichever team is ranked lower to win and then lose to Amherst in the NESCAC finals. They'll also need Hobart to beat Neumann, Norwich and Amherst to win their conferences, and SNC will need to win the NCHA out west.

                  A lot needs to go right for sure, but stranger things have happened.
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                    Originally posted by nysportsfan29 View Post
                    CSS, Elmira, St. Thomas all lost to ranked teams so that should soften the blow a bit.
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                      Originally posted by NUProf View Post
                      A loss to a ranked team is worse for your NCAA health than a loss to an unranked team
                      Always get confused by that.

                      So nevermind then. Elmira's quite likely done. I won't shed any tears for that.
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                        Originally posted by nysportsfan29 View Post
                        Always get confused by that.

                        So nevermind then. Elmira's quite likely done. I won't shed any tears for that.
                        Perhaps you are confusing it with SOS?
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                          Originally posted by nysportsfan29 View Post
                          Always get confused by that.

                          So nevermind then. Elmira's quite likely done. I won't shed any tears for that.
                          I'm not so sure Elmira is quite likely done.

                          Who gets in over them?

                          I'd say Elmira is still looking pretty for the #2 Pool C slot if Norwich and Amherst win.
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                            Originally posted by PrezdeJohnson09 View Post
                            I'm not so sure Elmira is quite likely done.

                            Who gets in over them?

                            I'd say Elmira is still looking pretty for the #2 Pool C slot if Norwich and Amherst win.
                            That was assuming they don't hold serve at 5 in the East.

                            I'm just getting the feeling that Bowdoin or Middlebury will be getting some big bumps in the rankings. One of them has to win next week - if Midd beats Bowdoin, that's two wins over ranked opponents in a week's time. If Neumann wins next week they will have 3 wins over ranked teams in the last week and a half.

                            If Elmira ends up at 6 in the final rankings they should be good. It depends on how close Bowdoin, Neumann, and Midd get to them in the rankings, though, since they still can improve their lot.
                            Last edited by nysportsfan29; 02-26-2012, 06:21 PM.
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                              I'm surprised there's been no talk of Hobart for a Pool C bid should they win the W tourney. What would it be, third in the ecac w regular season and playoff champs? 16 wins?

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                                Originally posted by altazo View Post
                                I'm surprised there's been no talk of Hobart for a Pool C bid should they win the W tourney. What would it be, third in the ecac w regular season and playoff champs? 16 wins?
                                The winner of the ECAC W will certainly have a shot along with Elmira as long as Norwich and Amherst win their tourneys.
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