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    US News & World Report has published its list of the top-400 universities in the world.

    http://www.usnews.com/education/worl...e-world?page=1

    For universities playing NCAA Division 1 ice hockey, here is the top-10 (and their world rankings):

    1. Harvard (ECAC), 2
    2. Yale (ECAC), 4
    3. Princeton (ECAC), 13
    4. Michigan (CCHA), 14
    5. Cornell (ECAC), 15
    6. Brown (ECAC), 39
    7. Wisconsin (WCHA), 41
    8. Boston University (Hockey East), 70
    9. Dartmouth (ECAC), 99
    10. Minnesota (WCHA), 112

    Future D1 hockey school Penn State would be No. 9 in the hockey list at No. 94 overall.

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    Uh oh, someone is missing......oh there they are at #349
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    • #3
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      These rankings get stranger every year

      Notre Dame - #223 o.O

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        Re: Best D1 hockey universities (US News & World Report)

        Originally posted by Harry Cleverly View Post
        US News & World Report has published its list of the top-400 universities in the world.

        http://www.usnews.com/education/worl...e-world?page=1

        For universities playing NCAA Division 1 ice hockey, here is the top-10 (and their world rankings):

        1. Harvard (ECAC), 2
        2. Yale (ECAC), 4
        3. Princeton (ECAC), 13
        4. Michigan (CCHA), 14
        5. Cornell (ECAC), 15
        6. Brown (ECAC), 39
        7. Wisconsin (WCHA), 41
        8. Boston University (Hockey East), 70
        9. Dartmouth (ECAC), 99
        10. Minnesota (WCHA), 112

        Future D1 hockey school Penn State would be No. 9 in the hockey list at No. 94 overall.
        Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute: Academic Reputation score: "not available" Employer Reputation Score: "not available" and so without those two metrics it is listed in the low 200s? and it is not listed under "engineering" at all???

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          Re: Best D1 hockey universities (US News & World Report)

          "But Notre Dame wouldn't fit in with the Big Ten because of the academics!!1!"

          Turns out they were right.
          the state of hockey is good

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            Re: Best D1 hockey universities (US News & World Report)

            Originally posted by state of hockey View Post
            "But Notre Dame wouldn't fit in with the Big Ten because of the academics!!1!"

            Turns out they were right.
            Don't worry, they are going to be a college hockey super power in a few years. Or so I'm told.

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              Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
              Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute: Academic Reputation score: "not available" Employer Reputation Score: "not available" and so without those two metrics it is listed in the low 200s? and it is not listed under "engineering" at all???

              Employer Reputation sucked so much that SAJ refused to have it published.

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                Re: Best D1 hockey universities (US News & World Report)

                Originally posted by defkit View Post
                Uh oh, someone is missing......oh there they are at #349
                lol, not even a better university than SUNY Buffalo! ................oh, but wait, it's a college...............or is it? what a joke, ND at #223? no need to go any further
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                  Not to be argumentative but you're really not proving anything by using the world list. Reason being that the term "university" means fundamentally different things in different cultures and in different parts of the world. No matter how much USNWR tries to crunch the numbers, you're necessarily comparing apples to oranges to grapefruits to pomegranates to prunes.

                  If what you want to do is compare the USNWR ranking of U.S. universities with Division I hockey programs, you need to use the "U.S. National Universities" category which, while still not perfect, at least attempts to compare universities of the same general size, type and purpose. (http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandre...l-universities). When you pluck out the D1 hockey schools, here's how they line up by USNWR ranking:

                  1. Harvard (ECAC) 1
                  1. Princeton (ECAC) 1
                  3. Yale (ECAC) 3
                  4. Dartmouth (ECAC) 11
                  5. Brown (ECAC) 15
                  5. Cornell (ECAC) 15
                  7. Notre Dame (CCHA) 19
                  8. Michigan (CCHA) 28
                  9. Boston College (HEA) 31
                  10. Wisconsin (WCHA) 42
                  11. RPI (ECAC) 50
                  12. Boston University (HEA) 53
                  13. Ohio State (CCHA) 55
                  14. UConn (AHA) 58
                  15. Northeastern (HEA) 62
                  16. Minnesota (WCHA) 68
                  17. Michigan State (CCHA) 71
                  18. Vermont (HEA) 82
                  18. Denver (WCHA) 82
                  20. Miami (CCHA) 90
                  21. UMass (HEA) 94
                  22. New Hampshire (HEA) 101
                  23. Michigan Tech (WCHA) 115
                  24. Clarkson (ECAC) 119
                  25. Maine (HEA) 152
                  26. North Dakota (WCHA)164
                  27. UMass-Lowell (HEA) 177
                  28. Western Michigan (CCHA) 181
                  29. Alabama-Huntsville (Ind) 190

                  Like I said, the resulting list isn't perfect. Army, Air Force, and Colorado College are all carried in the "National Liberal Arts College" category, while others, like Merrimack and UMD, are carried in one of several "Regional Universities" categories. Still, this is better than trying to compare any of them to, say, King Saud University or the University of Utrecht.
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                    Re: Best D1 hockey universities (US News & World Report)

                    Originally posted by Harry Cleverly View Post
                    US News & World Report has published its list of the top-400 universities in the world.

                    http://www.usnews.com/education/worl...e-world?page=1

                    For universities playing NCAA Division 1 ice hockey, here is the top-10 (and their world rankings):

                    1. Harvard (ECAC), 2
                    2. Yale (ECAC), 4
                    3. Princeton (ECAC), 13
                    4. Michigan (CCHA), 14
                    5. Cornell (ECAC), 15
                    6. Brown (ECAC), 39
                    7. Wisconsin (WCHA), 41
                    8. Boston University (Hockey East), 70
                    9. Dartmouth (ECAC), 99
                    10. Minnesota (WCHA), 112

                    Future D1 hockey school Penn State would be No. 9 in the hockey list at No. 94 overall.
                    how does it make any sense that in the same magazine's top 100 US universities, BC is above BU, but here BU is above BC?????? (by a good number btw)
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                      Re: Best D1 hockey universities (US News & World Report)

                      Originally posted by thebleedenator View Post
                      how does it make any sense that in the same magazine's top 100 US universities, BC is above BU, but here BU is above BC?????? (by a good number btw)
                      The World list is basically unuseable. I don't know why they even do it except for the fact they're probably making money on it somehow. Strange things happen when you try to compare vastly different institutions with very little in common.
                      "Through the years, we ever will acclaim........"

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                      • #12
                        Re: Best D1 hockey universities (US News & World Report)

                        Originally posted by Split-N View Post
                        The World list is basically unuseable. I don't know why they even do it except for the fact they're probably making money on it somehow. Strange things happen when you try to compare vastly different institutions with very little in common.
                        like BC and BU?
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                        • #13
                          Re: Best D1 hockey universities (US News & World Report)

                          Just shows there's a stat for just about everything.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Best D1 hockey universities (US News & World Report)

                            Originally posted by Split-N View Post
                            Not to be argumentative but you're really not proving anything by using the world list. Reason being that the term "university" means fundamentally different things in different cultures and in different parts of the world. No matter how much USNWR tries to crunch the numbers, you're necessarily comparing apples to oranges to grapefruits to pomegranates to prunes.

                            If what you want to do is compare the USNWR ranking of U.S. universities with Division I hockey programs, you need to use the "U.S. National Universities" category which, while still not perfect, at least attempts to compare universities of the same general size, type and purpose. (http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandre...l-universities). When you pluck out the D1 hockey schools, here's how they line up by USNWR ranking:

                            1. Harvard (ECAC) 1
                            1. Princeton (ECAC) 1
                            3. Yale (ECAC) 3
                            4. Dartmouth (ECAC) 11
                            5. Brown (ECAC) 15
                            5. Cornell (ECAC) 15
                            7. Notre Dame (CCHA) 19
                            8. Michigan (CCHA) 28
                            9. Boston College (HEA) 31
                            10. Wisconsin (WCHA) 42
                            11. RPI (ECAC) 50
                            12. Boston University (HEA) 53
                            13. Ohio State (CCHA) 55
                            14. UConn (AHA) 58
                            15. Northeastern (HEA) 62
                            16. Minnesota (WCHA) 68
                            17. Michigan State (CCHA) 71
                            18. Vermont (HEA) 82
                            18. Denver (WCHA) 82
                            20. Miami (CCHA) 90
                            21. UMass (HEA) 94
                            22. New Hampshire (HEA) 101
                            23. Michigan Tech (WCHA) 115
                            24. Clarkson (ECAC) 119
                            25. Maine (HEA) 152
                            26. North Dakota (WCHA)164
                            27. UMass-Lowell (HEA) 177
                            28. Western Michigan (CCHA) 181
                            29. Alabama-Huntsville (Ind) 190

                            Like I said, the resulting list isn't perfect. Army, Air Force, and Colorado College are all carried in the "National Liberal Arts College" category, while others, like Merrimack and UMD, are carried in one of several "Regional Universities" categories. Still, this is better than trying to compare any of them to, say, King Saud University or the University of Utrecht.
                            I don't remember, it was either King Saud or King Fahd (#221) that had a goalie who was an absolute sieve The football team was solid, though.

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                              Re: Best D1 hockey universities (US News & World Report)

                              Originally posted by Split-N View Post
                              The World list is basically unuseable. I don't know why they even do it except for the fact they're probably making money on it somehow. Strange things happen when you try to compare vastly different institutions with very little in common.
                              Actually the world rankings is more comprehensive. The world rankings take into account a universities' research prowess. graduate and professional schools, and undergraduate programs. The USNWR best college rankings is only undergraduate, lacking any acknowledgement of undergraduate research, relying mostly on subjective metrics such as reputation (how one can measure reputation is beyond me as a physicist).

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