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  • What if scenario: Could the BTHC fall below 6 teams and lose an autobid

    What if: Notre Dame decides to go the ACC route and together takes Penn State with them. They could possibly provide the biggest conference TV contract, even larger than the Big10 so don't say Penn State would never leave the Big10 for the possibility to fit in with their geographic rivals for more money. If that is the case Penn State would no longer be counted among the 6 BTHC members. Could they possibly be the 12th Hockey East team then? Stranger things have happened but wouldn't that be ironic since PSU started this whole realignment.

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    Re: What if scenario: Could the BTHC fall below 6 teams and lose an autobid

    Originally posted by BC/HE View Post
    What if: Notre Dame decides to go the ACC route and together takes Penn State with them. They could possibly provide the biggest conference TV contract, even larger than the Big10 so don't say Penn State would never leave the Big10 for the possibility to fit in with their geographic rivals for more money. If that is the case Penn State would no longer be counted among the 6 BTHC members. Could they possibly be the 12th Hockey East team then? Stranger things have happened but wouldn't that be ironic since PSU started this whole realignment.
    What you just said.....

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    • #3
      Re: What if scenario: Could the BTHC fall below 6 teams and lose an autobid

      It is a step down in Academics, so it will not happen.
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      The reason for the talent in the west? Because MN didn't rely on Canada.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BC/HE View Post
        What if: Notre Dame decides to go the ACC route and together takes Penn State with them. They could possibly provide the biggest conference TV contract, even larger than the Big10 so don't say Penn State would never leave the Big10 for the possibility to fit in with their geographic rivals for more money. If that is the case Penn State would no longer be counted among the 6 BTHC members. Could they possibly be the 12th Hockey East team then? Stranger things have happened but wouldn't that be ironic since PSU started this whole realignment.
        At that point teams would be falling all over themselves to join up with the Big Ten schools in a conference. More likely the B1G schools would play with 5 teams and not panic until they added a 12th team. Given the quality of the B10 schools not having an autobid wouldn't be anything more than a headache because they should still be able to get at least one at large bid.

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        • #5
          Re: What if scenario: Could the BTHC fall below 6 teams and lose an autobid

          Originally posted by BC/HE View Post
          What if: Notre Dame decides to go the ACC route and together takes Penn State with them. They could possibly provide the biggest conference TV contract, even larger than the Big10 so don't say Penn State would never leave the Big10 for the possibility to fit in with their geographic rivals for more money. If that is the case Penn State would no longer be counted among the 6 BTHC members. Could they possibly be the 12th Hockey East team then? Stranger things have happened but wouldn't that be ironic since PSU started this whole realignment.
          LOL can this rumor just die. There is no way Penn State would leave the B10. No way whatsoever.

          They would loose money for the Athletic Department.
          They would loose money for research.
          They would loose academic prestige.


          As a state university in tough economic times there is no way they could not justify to the tax payers a reduction in revenue.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CHFAN222 View Post
            They would loose money for the Athletic Department.
            They would loose money for research.
            They would loose academic prestige.
            Well, they'd really have to tighten up!
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            • #7
              Re: What if scenario: Could the BTHC fall below 6 teams and lose an autobid

              Originally posted by Happy View Post
              It is a step down in Academics, so it will not happen.
              Not according to US News & World Report Rankings.

              The ACC has one school in the top 10 (Duke), while the Big 10 has zero.
              The ACC has 3 schools in the top 25 (UVA & Wake Forest), while the Big 10 has 1 (Northwestern).
              The ACC has 7 schools in the top 50 (UNC, BC, Georgia Tech & Miami), while the Big 10 has 5 (Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn St & Illinois).
              Even the soon-to-be ACCers Pitt (58) and Syracuse (62) rank above Minnesota, Michigan St, Iowa, Indiana, and Nebraska.
              Florida St and NC St are the lowest-ranked ACC schools at 101, which is the same rank as Nebraska (the lowest-ranked Big 10 school).

              The Big 10 fares much better in terms of receiving federal money for R&D. According to the Chronicle of Higher Education's 2009 rankings the Big 10 had 2 schools in the top 10 (Michigan & Wisconsin), while the ACC had zero.
              The Big 10 had 5 schools in the top 25 (Penn St, Minnesota & Ohio St), while the ACC had 3/4 (Pitt, Duke, UNC & Georgia Tech).
              The Big 10 had 8 schools in the top 50 (Northwestern, Illinois & Iowa), while the ACC had 5/6 (Maryland & UVA).

              They're 2 of the best conferences in the US, probably #2 & #3 (though I didn't look closely at the Pac 12 -- can't trust a conference that doesn't play hockey).

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              • #8
                Re: What if scenario: Could the BTHC fall below 6 teams and lose an autobid

                6 Big Ten teams = Big Ten conference. PERIOD. End. Of. Discussion.
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                • #9
                  Re: What if scenario: Could the BTHC fall below 6 teams and lose an autobid

                  Originally posted by ithacat View Post
                  Not according to US News & World Report Rankings.

                  The ACC has one school in the top 10 (Duke), while the Big 10 has zero.
                  The ACC has 3 schools in the top 25 (UVA & Wake Forest), while the Big 10 has 1 (Northwestern).
                  The ACC has 7 schools in the top 50 (UNC, BC, Georgia Tech & Miami), while the Big 10 has 5 (Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn St & Illinois).
                  Even the soon-to-be ACCers Pitt (58) and Syracuse (62) rank above Minnesota, Michigan St, Iowa, Indiana, and Nebraska.
                  Florida St and NC St are the lowest-ranked ACC schools at 101, which is the same rank as Nebraska (the lowest-ranked Big 10 school).

                  The Big 10 fares much better in terms of receiving federal money for R&D. According to the Chronicle of Higher Education's 2009 rankings the Big 10 had 2 schools in the top 10 (Michigan & Wisconsin), while the ACC had zero.
                  The Big 10 had 5 schools in the top 25 (Penn St, Minnesota & Ohio St), while the ACC had 3/4 (Pitt, Duke, UNC & Georgia Tech).
                  The Big 10 had 8 schools in the top 50 (Northwestern, Illinois & Iowa), while the ACC had 5/6 (Maryland & UVA).

                  They're 2 of the best conferences in the US, probably #2 & #3 (though I didn't look closely at the Pac 12 -- can't trust a conference that doesn't play hockey).
                  And if you add in Notre Dame and Penn State for the ACC it becomes lopsided in favor of the ACC.
                  Those lines would read:
                  The ACC has 4 schools in the top 25 (UVA & Wake Forest,Notre Dame), while the Big 10 has 1 (Northwestern).
                  The ACC has 9 schools in the top 50 (UNC, BC, Georgia Tech,Penn State & Miami), while the Big 10 has 4 (Michigan, Wisconsin & Illinois).

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                  • #10
                    Re: What if scenario: Could the BTHC fall below 6 teams and lose an autobid

                    Yeah... right.
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                    • #11
                      Re: What if scenario: Could the BTHC fall below 6 teams and lose an autobid

                      The Big Ten is a better academic conference because they are all about research. The ACC doesn't hold to a candle to the Big Ten's research departments in fact the Big Ten would rather be known for developing a cure for cancer over both an outstanding football program and undergraduate departments. In their eyes it is tougher to be research universities than being known for undergraduate work.
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                      • #12
                        Re: What if scenario: Could the BTHC fall below 6 teams and lose an autobid

                        The Big Ten owns Penn State's TV rights until 2027.

                        Literally, a more likely result to drop the Big Ten below six teams would be Michigan's population dropping to about 800,000 people in another decade or two of the awesome economy here. Michigan State would probably have to close or drop out of the Big Ten at that point, while I root for the Hawaii Warriors club program after turning out the light in my home state.
                        "I went over the facts in my head, and admired how much uglier the situation had just become. Over the years I've learned that ignorance is more than just bliss. It's freaking orgasmic ecstasy".- Harry Dresden, Blood Rites


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                        • #13
                          Re: What if scenario: Could the BTHC fall below 6 teams and lose an autobid

                          Originally posted by ithacat View Post
                          Not according to US News & World Report Rankings.

                          The ACC has one school in the top 10 (Duke), while the Big 10 has zero.
                          The ACC has 3 schools in the top 25 (UVA & Wake Forest), while the Big 10 has 1 (Northwestern).
                          The ACC has 7 schools in the top 50 (UNC, BC, Georgia Tech & Miami), while the Big 10 has 5 (Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn St & Illinois).
                          Even the soon-to-be ACCers Pitt (58) and Syracuse (62) rank above Minnesota, Michigan St, Iowa, Indiana, and Nebraska.
                          Florida St and NC St are the lowest-ranked ACC schools at 101, which is the same rank as Nebraska (the lowest-ranked Big 10 school).

                          The Big 10 fares much better in terms of receiving federal money for R&D. According to the Chronicle of Higher Education's 2009 rankings the Big 10 had 2 schools in the top 10 (Michigan & Wisconsin), while the ACC had zero.
                          The Big 10 had 5 schools in the top 25 (Penn St, Minnesota & Ohio St), while the ACC had 3/4 (Pitt, Duke, UNC & Georgia Tech).
                          The Big 10 had 8 schools in the top 50 (Northwestern, Illinois & Iowa), while the ACC had 5/6 (Maryland & UVA).

                          They're 2 of the best conferences in the US, probably #2 & #3 (though I didn't look closely at the Pac 12 -- can't trust a conference that doesn't play hockey).

                          This says you are wrong.

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                          The reason for the talent in the west? Because MN didn't rely on Canada.

                          Originally posted by MN Pond Hockey
                          Menards could have sold a lot of rope

                          this morning in Grand Forks if North Dakota had trees.

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                          • #14
                            Re: What if scenario: Could the BTHC fall below 6 teams and lose an autobid

                            I'm sorry, but any rag (USN&WR included) that ranks Miami above Minnesota in education is a joke.
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                            As of 9/21/10:         As of 9/13/10:
                            College Hockey 6       College Football 0
                            BTHC 4                 WCHA FC:  1
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                            Originally posted by bigblue_dl
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                            Originally posted by Kepler
                            When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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                            • #15
                              Re: What if scenario: Could the BTHC fall below 6 teams and lose an autobid

                              And second of all, the Big Ten has the CIC. That alone is a MASSIVE bump in academics that is rarely included in these stupid rankings.

                              Third. Why on earth would Penn State bolt to a conference where they would be giving up a crap ton in revenue?
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                              As of 9/21/10:         As of 9/13/10:
                              College Hockey 6       College Football 0
                              BTHC 4                 WCHA FC:  1
                              Originally posted by SanTropez
                              May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                              Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                              I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                              Originally posted by Kepler
                              When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                              He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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