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3dognight
08-11-2011, 06:47 PM
No link davyd...phone conversation with a person at the Goldwater group.
Same person that provided NMU to WCHA info......prior to press.

Bill
08-11-2011, 06:50 PM
I would agree with you Bill. I think that WMU is a get bet for the NCHC IF Notre Dame opts to go there as well. But if Notre Dame goes to Hockey East, we may have another mess on our hands, with another mini feeding frenzy taking place. Unless Minnesota Moorhead decides not to pursue a D-I hockey program, there likely is but one spot left in the WCHA, and that will go to one of three schools, Alaska-Fairbanks, LSSU or possibly Western.I don't think Western would be interested in the WCHA. With the money they've started putting into hockey, I think the NCHC is their preferred destination.

3dognight
08-11-2011, 06:55 PM
What about the rumor of ND perhaps being independent?
I don't see how that works, but could they really consider that option, play everyone, and get an at large berth due to their pairwise?

davyd83
08-11-2011, 07:03 PM
I don't think Western would be interested in the WCHA. With the money they've started putting into hockey, I think the NCHC is their preferred destination.

I know that the NCHC is the preferred destination. That's a virtual certainty. But if Notre Dame doesn't go that route, or they are unable to secure a new arena or renovations, they may not have many options. I really don't see Hockey East taking Western, with or without Notre Dame. You have to remember that has been a bus league with relatively little overnight travel. They'll absorb a flight to have the Notre Dame identity in the league, but Western doesn't offer the bang for the buck that the Irish do. The best hope for Western to get into the NCHC is to renovate Lawson to meet the guidlines. The city has been talking about a new arena for several years, but with the economic conditions and a very tight fisted governor in office, you would see little, if any state money involved. Time for the WMU donors to dig a little deeper.

davyd83
08-11-2011, 07:06 PM
What about the rumor of ND perhaps being independent?
I don't see how that works, but could they really consider that option, play everyone, and get an at large berth due to their pairwise?

There has been no credible source on that one. The thread here was started as speculation by a fan.

davyd83
08-11-2011, 07:07 PM
No link davyd...phone conversation with a person at the Goldwater group.
Same person that provided NMU to WCHA info......prior to press.

Why would the Goldwater Group have been in on NMU to the WCHA, even before they were officially in with the NCHC?

kingdobbs
08-11-2011, 07:23 PM
I really don't see Hockey East taking Western, with or without Notre Dame. You have to remember that has been a bus league with relatively little overnight travel. They'll absorb a flight to have the Notre Dame identity in the league, but Western doesn't offer the bang for the buck that the Irish do.

On the other hand, WMU does help HEA preserve home and homes, because two teams can travel out to Notre Dame and WMU as travel partners, and the two teams can do the same.

3dognight
08-11-2011, 07:38 PM
Why would the Goldwater Group have been in on NMU to the WCHA, even before they were officially in with the NCHC?

College hockey is a small world and info on teams / leagues often overlap.They were also involved with some WCHA breakaways in an advisory role for awhile now.

Bill
08-11-2011, 07:55 PM
I know that the NCHC is the preferred destination. That's a virtual certainty. But if Notre Dame doesn't go that route, or they are unable to secure a new arena or renovations, they may not have many options. I really don't see Hockey East taking Western, with or without Notre Dame. You have to remember that has been a bus league with relatively little overnight travel. They'll absorb a flight to have the Notre Dame identity in the league, but Western doesn't offer the bang for the buck that the Irish do. The best hope for Western to get into the NCHC is to renovate Lawson to meet the guidlines. The city has been talking about a new arena for several years, but with the economic conditions and a very tight fisted governor in office, you would see little, if any state money involved. Time for the WMU donors to dig a little deeper.I kind of wonder if they already have something in the works with donors towards upgrades to Lawson or even a new arena. It doesn't make much sense to start putting a bunch more money into the program (to Blashill and now Murray) with a view towards making into a higher priority sport and not also realize they they correspondingly will need to upgrade facilities. No use just going part way.

davyd83
08-11-2011, 11:49 PM
On the other hand, WMU does help HEA preserve home and homes, because two teams can travel out to Notre Dame and WMU as travel partners, and the two teams can do the same.

Or one team can fly to Notre Dame and play 2 games.

davyd83
08-11-2011, 11:51 PM
No link davyd...phone conversation with a person at the Goldwater group.
Same person that provided NMU to WCHA info......prior to press.

Does your Goldwater source have any info on Notre Dame to the NCHC?

LSSULaker889294
08-12-2011, 12:31 AM
Sure hope every falls into place by September 30. The Lakers season starts on October 1, it would be nice to know the Lakers fate in 2013-2014 before this season starts.

3dognight
08-12-2011, 04:18 AM
Does your Goldwater source have any info on Notre Dame to the NCHC?

Nope. Mums the word on that topic.

Bill
08-15-2011, 12:53 PM
Sounds like Trotman had a good week at the Bruins developmental camp:

http://www.ccha.com/bruins_prospect_lssu_defenseman_trotman_ready_to_i mpress_lakers_discuss_local_hockey_school.aspx

sm2pk
08-15-2011, 01:15 PM
Sounds like Trotman had a good week at the Bruins developmental camp:

http://www.ccha.com/bruins_prospect_lssu_defenseman_trotman_ready_to_i mpress_lakers_discuss_local_hockey_school.aspx

ON the psoitive side for Lake State,it sounds as if the Bruins are happy with Trotman staying at school and getting more experience and that hopefully means they want him to get the 4 years of training there .

sm2pk
08-16-2011, 02:09 PM
ND must be holding out for the best TV contract .

DopeyBaker
08-17-2011, 12:38 PM
Some interesting tidbits here:

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2011/08/17_the_latest_ccha,_wcha_to.php

sm2pk
08-17-2011, 03:46 PM
Who is the new coach replacing Metro ? Have they said and I missed it ?

Bill
08-17-2011, 05:49 PM
Who is the new coach replacing Metro ? Have they said and I missed it ?It hasn't been announced yet, but unofficially it's reported to be Doug Laprade.

Lakerblue
08-17-2011, 06:02 PM
I Like this. Even to have the rumor verified by somebody other than us message-board trolls is exciting. It means nothing, except that perhaps -- just perhaps -- I am not praying in vain for a Western move by LSSU.

Another rumor had Lake Superior State possibly going with Alaska to the WCHA.

"There are a lot of possibilities still," Lake Superior athletic director Kris Dunbar said. "We are going forward and working with the CCHA to determine the best place going forward for Lake Superior. ... We are not in trouble at all. This could all be a positive in the long run."

One thing Dunbar wanted to put to rest was any rumor that Lake Superior State's future was on shaky ground.

"We are firmly committed to Division I hockey at Lake Superior State," Dunbar said, affirming that the school administration is strongly behind the program. "Losing revenue from (the Big Ten schools leaving the CCHA) can be offset in getting guarantees for going to their buildings, so it won't be a problem for us.

While the CCHA discusses merger ideas with the WCHA, it still is discussing an entirely different possibility bringing in four Atlantic Hockey schools. Those schools, Robert Morris, Mercyhurst, Niagara and Canisius, have already had discussions with the CCHA and have expressed interest in playing in a league where they can award 18 scholarships, instead of the 12 they are currently limited to in Atlantic Hockey.

The CCHA has given the Atlantic schools a Sept. 30 deadline to make a decision on their preference, but that is contingent upon whether Alaska remains in the CCHA. WCHA commissioner Bruce McLeod has been to Fairbanks to discuss the possibility of Alaska switching to the WCHA, which would open the door for the Atlantic schools to switch, and potentially create two seven-team conferences, and leave Atlantic Hockey with eight.

However, if Lake Superior leaves too, that would leave the CCHA with six schools, even if the four Atlantic schools join. The Atlantic schools are concerned that would leave a new-look CCHA in a precarious situation.