Frozen Four Oddities.

[state of hockey]

Re: Frozen Four Oddities.

To the people on the East Coast, Pittsburgh is West. Heading West from NYC:

West - Flyover Country - Mountains - Left Coast.

[goldy_331]

Re: Frozen Four Oddities.

PSS When did Minnesota and Michigan become contiguous?

Wishful thinking. Wishing Wisconsin would disappear.

[Bronzebacks]

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PSS When did Minnesota and Michigan become contiguous?

Via Isle Royale Dirty! You stupid bastard.

[darker98]

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Via Isle Royale Dirty! You stupid bastard.

That's just good stuff.

[Bronzebacks]

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Go SIOUX!

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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Hail to the Victors! Valiant!
Hail to the conquering heros!
Hail! Hail! to Michigan
the leaders of the WEST!

Interesting. The lyrics I know are quite different

[frogtown_pond]

Re: Frozen Four Oddities.

Some notes on the Frozen Four

Since 1981, when the tournament expanded to 8 teams (then to 12, and now 16), there have been 5 (counting this year), All-West Frozen Fours. The last was in 2005 when DU, UND, CC and UMn were all in Columbus, which is the only time one conference (WCHA) had all the representatives in the FF.

There has never been an All-East FF.

There have been 10 3/1 splits - 6 in favor of the West, 4 in favor for the East. Since 1991, the 1 has won.

All time champions by State:
Michigan: 14+5
Massachusetts: 10
Colorado: 9
North Dakota: 7
Wisconsin: 5+1
Minnesota: 5
New York: 4 (Homer pick)
Maine: 2
Ohio: 1

Cheeseheads, don't feel so down -- at D-III, your state has 9 championships. Minnesota only has 1.

Fixed! Joe you were shy a few titles.

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Re: Frozen Four Oddities.

To the people on the East Coast, Pittsburgh is West. Heading West from NYC:

West - Flyover Country - Mountains - Left Coast.

And to Bostonians, Route (pronounced 'root') 128 is West, and also where civilization ends.

[johnnypohlfan]

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Fixed! Joe you were shy a few titles.

Thank you for correcting his data in a polite way. Perhaps the pretentious east-coaster Sean could take a few notes from you. Sheesh, what a tool he comes off to be.

[Steve_MN]

Re: Frozen Four Oddities.

This year's Frozen Four features teams from geographically contiguous states: ND --> Minnesota --> Michigan --> Indiana

PS how is it that two teams east of the Mississippi River make this an 'all west' frozen four? Are we back in 1805 again when Indiana was part of the Northwest Territory?

Generally speaking, West vs East in College hockey has been CCHA/WCHA (+Air Force and UAH) = West, all others = East

If you use the Mississippi as the dividing line, there's only a total of 12 "Western" teams. Adding the CCHA in at least gets to 25, less than 1/2 of all D1 teams. To get a 50/50 breakdown, the current dividing line would be between Canisius and RIT, which would put Niagara, Robert Morris, Mercyhurst and Canisius as "West" teams. Given where this line would be, it looks like PSU will actually be the mid-point once they get going.

[HumRsky]

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Cheeseheads, don't feel so down -- at D-III, your state has 9 championships. Minnesota only has 1.

Since you brought it up, if you want to include all divisions and both genders, Minnesota leads Wisconsin 32-22 (The breakdown for Minnesota is this-Men's: D1-5, D2-6, D3-1, NAIA-12; Women's: NCAA D1-7, AWCHA D1-1)

[state of hockey]

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If you use the Mississippi as the divider, UND is the only Western team in the Frozen Four. So you Easterners can stop whining now.

[frogtown_pond]

Re: Frozen Four Oddities.

Since you brought it up, if you want to include all divisions and both genders, Minnesota leads Wisconsin 32-22 (The breakdown for Minnesota is this-Men's: D1-5, D2-6, D3-1, NAIA-12; Women's: NCAA D1-7, AWCHA D1-1)

You forgot the NJCAA - 7

[HumRsky]

Re: Frozen Four Oddities.

You forgot the NJCAA - 7

Huh, never thought about it, but you're right. so...39-22

Also, if the Mississippi River is the divider there are only 9 Western D1 hockey schools: the Colorado schools, the Alaska schools, North Dakota, Bemidji, Mankato, and St. Cloud (the Concrete Center is on the West bank of the river. Mariucci is on the East bank campus of Minnesota.)

[Bronzebacks]

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Huh, never thought about it, but you're right. so...39-22

Also, if the Mississippi River is the divider there are only 9 Western D1 hockey schools: the Colorado schools, the Alaska schools, North Dakota, Bemidji, Mankato, and St. Cloud (the Concrete Center is on the West bank of the river. Mariucci is on the East bank campus of Minnesota.)

If the Mississippi River is the divider, Bemidji's Hockey Arena is both East and West of the river. Campus itself is West.