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FlagDUDE08
05-18-2011, 07:18 AM
BU: http://www.goterriers.com/sports/m-hockey/sched/bost-m-hockey-sched.html

Thanks; you guys are in.

bgbill1
05-19-2011, 07:04 PM
Bowling Green:

http://www.bgsufalcons.com/documents/2011/5/19/2011-12_Hockey_Schedule.pdf?id=2007

BC/HE
05-22-2011, 01:51 PM
BTW, for those who don't remember the location:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AjrUzfoOPCB5dG9EOGhVUmowUE5vSmVRclNwRHFuR VE&hl=en&authkey=CK695cwJ#gid=0

Don't know why I can't access this. Everytime I try it takes me to a google log in page and no matter what I do it won't allow me to get to the site because of some kind of cookies function. Even if I open up to allow all cookies it does the same. Anyone have any suggestions? I really want to be able to access this. Sure glad FlagDUDE08 has gone to the trouble. Usually it is well into the summer before you can plan ahead for these games.

FlagDUDE08
05-23-2011, 06:18 AM
Don't know why I can't access this. Everytime I try it takes me to a google log in page and no matter what I do it won't allow me to get to the site because of some kind of cookies function. Even if I open up to allow all cookies it does the same. Anyone have any suggestions? I really want to be able to access this. Sure glad FlagDUDE08 has gone to the trouble. Usually it is well into the summer before you can plan ahead for these games.

It may be because of a firewall. I know I'm not able to access the page while I am at work. However, I have set the page to be open for edit to anyone whom I have given the link (naturally, I gave it on here, so anyone viewing here is able to edit). Are there any other google docs that you are able to view? What browser and OS are you using? Here, I have Firefox 3.6.17 for Ubuntu Linux.

Snively65
05-23-2011, 10:29 AM
Thanks; you guys are in.

Interesting that BU and UNH are not playing a home-and-home weekend for two of their three games this season.

Thanks for managing this spreadsheet, FlagDUDE!

FlagDUDE08
05-23-2011, 11:09 AM
Interesting that BU and UNH are not playing a home-and-home weekend for two of their three games this season.

Thanks for managing this spreadsheet, FlagDUDE!

No prob. And thanks to everyone that is filling in information regarding their own team, including home/away status.

WildShawn
05-23-2011, 01:47 PM
Interesting that BU and UNH are not playing a home-and-home weekend for two of their three games this season.

Thanks for managing this spreadsheet, FlagDUDE!

I wish they would stop having conference games to start the season. I think its important to get a few non-conference games under your belt before going into the grind of the conference schedule (where the games matter more, in theory)...

UNH usually has their schedule out by now, it seems like they're dragging their feet. I wonder if it has to do with the rumored Fenway game (of which details change from day to day)?

FlagDUDE08
05-23-2011, 03:17 PM
I wish they would stop having conference games to start the season. I think its important to get a few non-conference games under your belt before going into the grind of the conference schedule (where the games matter more, in theory)...

UNH usually has their schedule out by now, it seems like they're dragging their feet. I wonder if it has to do with the rumored Fenway game (of which details change from day to day)?

If y'all didn't play so many conference games, I'm sure they'd be able to get some NC games in.

FlagDUDE08
05-23-2011, 04:56 PM
Formatting note again:

If I recall correctly according to the rules, only one in-season contest against an international team is exempt. In the case of Yale, the game against Russia, according to NCAA rules, counts against their limit, given they are already playing an international game against Waterloo. You may notice that I do not put the EX in parentheses at the end, this is because it is not exempt. This is different from an international travel series that is exempt once every four years. Playing against a United States national team is given a special exemption that is separate from any other country's national teams.

BTW, while we're on this subject, who is playing the U-20's this year?

rodney
05-24-2011, 07:57 AM
Formatting note again:

If I recall correctly according to the rules, only one in-season contest against an international team is exempt. In the case of Yale, the game against Russia, according to NCAA rules, counts against their limit, given they are already playing an international game against Waterloo. You may notice that I do not put the EX in parentheses at the end, this is because it is not exempt. This is different from an international travel series that is exempt once every four years. Playing against a United States national team is given a special exemption that is separate from any other country's national teams.

BTW, while we're on this subject, who is playing the U-20's this year?

You're correct about the exemptions... the work around though is that one game is considered an exhibition game and one is considered a scrimmage. It's different in label but on game day there is no difference. So how should we label it since neither game counts against the 29 they can play? The same goes for Cornell which has two Canadian schools scheduled or any other school for that matter that has two 'exhibition' games.

FlagDUDE08
05-24-2011, 08:40 AM
You're correct about the exemptions... the work around though is that one game is considered an exhibition game and one is considered a scrimmage. It's different in label but on game day there is no difference. So how should we label it since neither game counts against the 29 they can play? The same goes for Cornell which has two Canadian schools scheduled or any other school for that matter that has two 'exhibition' games.

Now we're getting into some grey area. I think the best thing to do, at least for the spreadsheet, is to go based upon the NCAA definition, regardless of what the Ivy League says. It could be that the NCAA will count it against the team's 34-game limit, but the ivy league does not count it against their 29-game limit. However, I don't know how the NCAA compiles it in terms of statistics, whether or not it's just a non-exempt exhibition, in which case NC EX would be appropriate in front of the team for an in-conference opponent, and EX for a non-conference opponent. BTW, NC is what I use to not include in the conference count the NC games against conference opponents.

burgie12
05-24-2011, 09:45 AM
It could be that the NCAA will count it against the team's 34-game limit, but the ivy league does not count it against their 29-game limit.
Winner. Just like that's how the Ivies can play D-III schools as "scrimmages," even though they count against the 34-game cap (and whatever cap the D-III schools have).

rodney
05-24-2011, 12:23 PM
Winner. Just like that's how the Ivies can play D-III schools as "scrimmages," even though they count against the 34-game cap (and whatever cap the D-III schools have).

I don't think so... the last two years Princeton has played Morrisville State in its scrimmage and will scrimmage Neumann this year. It has not counted against the 29 (it may count against the 34, don't know). The stats have not counted.

FlagDUDE08
05-24-2011, 12:34 PM
I don't think so... the last two years Princeton has played Morrisville State in its scrimmage and will scrimmage Neumann this year. It has not counted against the 29 (it may count against the 34, don't know). The stats have not counted.

If the stats haven't counted, that would explain exhibition status. However, what is not explained is the NCAA's stance on exemption. Obviously with this being a national schedule, I am using the NCAA's rules. According to their rules, it counts against the 34, so you'll see a number that is higher than 29 if you are playing these "scrimmages".

rodney
05-24-2011, 02:34 PM
If the stats haven't counted, that would explain exhibition status. However, what is not explained is the NCAA's stance on exemption. Obviously with this being a national schedule, I am using the NCAA's rules. According to their rules, it counts against the 34, so you'll see a number that is higher than 29 if you are playing these "scrimmages".

I completely understand. I think because so many teams play exhibition games, there might be some confusion between EX meaning exhibition and EX meaning exempt. That's all I'm mentioning. So based on that should we include exhibition games, and if so, how should they be labelled considering that so many teams do play exhibition games that do not count against their 34-game limit?

FlagDUDE08
05-24-2011, 02:39 PM
I completely understand. I think because so many teams play exhibition games, there might be some confusion between EX meaning exhibition and EX meaning exempt. That's all I'm mentioning. So based on that should we include exhibition games, and if so, how should they be labelled considering that so many teams do play exhibition games that do not count against their 34-game limit?

The parentheses at the end signifies the exemption, and what type it is:
(Ex) = Playing any one International team
(Al) = Playing any Alaskan team in Alaska
(US) = Playing one United States sanctioned national team
(IB) = Playing in the IceBreaker Tournament
(HF) = Playing at the USA Hockey Hall of Fame

If it's not exempt, use the code in the beginning, similar to how I have been placing it when Yale plays the Russian team.

BTW, in the case of Cornell and Yale (and any other team with this arrangement), the first international game is exempt. Any subsequent ones are not.

FlagDUDE08
05-24-2011, 04:06 PM
Do we know who is playing who in the first game of the Ivy League shootout? And any other tournaments for that matter? Thanks to whomever filled in the Florida classic (even if they'll never read this because they're on eLynah).

joecct
05-26-2011, 09:24 AM
Winner. Just like that's how the Ivies can play D-III schools as "scrimmages," even though they count against the 34-game cap (and whatever cap the D-III schools have).25 / 24 for the NESCAC.

Norwich @ Dartmouth late October. Will try to get the date for you.

FlagDUDE08
05-26-2011, 09:26 AM
25 / 24 for the NESCAC.

Norwich @ Dartmouth late October. Will try to get the date for you.

Thanks. Do you stick it on the bottom of the spreadsheet with the other opponent listings? I'm at work, and can't access the spreadsheet.

FlagDUDE08
05-29-2011, 06:57 PM
Bumping to the top. Are there any further schedule updates? Hopefully we will hear some news after the Memorial Day weekend, especially given the Fenway Park situation, since that's the only thing that Maine is waiting on.