Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XVIII - Belief in a Better Tomorrow

[Almington]

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Almington - Sorry dude, I was just ribbing you in good nature. Never meant for this to turn into what it has, but I won't apologize for what I value about my favorite program. I'm a Minnesota hockey guy above all else. I hope you understand that, even if you don't agree with some of what I've said.

Meh, I'm just confused to why you're apologizing to me? I don't care what you believe, count the pre-NCAA championship or not, doesn't matter to me how far in the past you want to live. No other program has more NCAA championships since 1963 than the Badger, no one. Embrace MN's hockey culture, enjoy it all you can, MN has a special connection with the game but once Bernie is done with it, the community model will be a thing of the past. Playing in MN doesn't give any player a better chance of playing D1 hockey, more and more recruits are coming from non-traditional locations and playing D1 hockey will always be a very long shot regardless of where you develop as a player. Anyway, Canadian players are vastly superior to Minnesota players (at least according to PigRink) so MN can never be expected to win anything ever again until they bring in more Canadians like UND and UW.

[Gurtholfin]

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A Minnesota team just won the national championship, or doesn't that one count for some reason either? Sconnie logic, got to love it.

Aren't you a Gopher fan? Or do you get to celebrate all hockey titles won by the state schools also?

Oh yeah and while Burd lives here, he's a Nodak fan, so "Sconnie logic" doesn't apply to him. To which I'm sure he'd say, "Thank God!"

Love new posters like you. All full of **** and vinegar. Keep it coming coz we're not quite up to speed on this Minnesota hockey culture that you speak of. You know, coz 50 other guys just like you haven't been on these boards spouting the same drivel over the years.

[Gurtholfin]

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Meh, I'm just confused to why you're apologizing to me? I don't care what you believe, count the pre-NCAA championship or not, doesn't matter to me how far in the past you want to live. No other program has more NCAA championships since 1963 than the Badger, no one. Embrace MN's hockey culture, enjoy it all you can, MN has a special connection with the game but once Bernie is done with it, the community model will be a thing of the past. Playing in MN doesn't give any player a better chance of playing D1 hockey, more and more recruits are coming from non-traditional locations and playing D1 hockey will always be a very long shot regardless of where you develop as a player. Anyway, Canadian players are vastly superior to Minnesota players (at least according to PigRink) so MN can never be expected to win anything ever again until they bring in more Canadians like UND and UW.

And like Duluth. They had at least 6 Canadian players last year. I would go so far as to say that Duluth doesn't win the title without Canadian help.

[Driftryder]

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Oh yeah well... dead deer, paint thinner, dead deer, paint thinner, dead deer, paint thinner

Take that.

In the summer even...

[JDUBBS1280]

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Meh, I'm just confused to why you're apologizing to me? I don't care what you believe, count the pre-NCAA championship or not, doesn't matter to me how far in the past you want to live. No other program has more NCAA championships since 1963 than the Badger, no one. Embrace MN's hockey culture, enjoy it all you can, MN has a special connection with the game but once Bernie is done with it, the community model will be a thing of the past. Playing in MN doesn't give any player a better chance of playing D1 hockey, more and more recruits are coming from non-traditional locations and playing D1 hockey will always be a very long shot regardless of where you develop as a player. Anyway, Canadian players are vastly superior to Minnesota players (at least according to PigRink) so MN can never be expected to win anything ever again until they bring in more Canadians like UND and UW.

I was just joking around with you, and that's how this whole thing started. I agree with the premise that more and more players are coming from non-traditional markets. I think you're kidding yourself if you think that Minnesota won't continue to produce more players than a vast majority of US markets into the forseeable future.

My point was, there is a far better chance that the good athletes in Minnesota will play hockey than the good athletes in Wisconsin. Despite a smaller population size, Minnesota has 2.5 times the number of registered players.

[JDUBBS1280]

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Aren't you a Gopher fan? Or do you get to celebrate all hockey titles won by the state schools also?

Oh yeah and while Burd lives here, he's a Nodak fan, so "Sconnie logic" doesn't apply to him. To which I'm sure he'd say, "Thank God!"

Love new posters like you. All full of **** and vinegar. Keep it coming coz we're not quite up to speed on this Minnesota hockey culture that you speak of. You know, coz 50 other guys just like you haven't been on these boards spouting the same drivel over the years.

I'm not exactly a new poster. I've posted here off and on for 5+ years. I just don't live here. Though statements like that are a true sign of not having anything of real substance to say.

If you don't want this type of discussion, you shouldn't try an tell us which championships we should and should not value, and which aspects of our program's history and tradition we should should and should not be proud of.

So keep digging. We both know I'm spot on

[Chuck Schwartz]

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Blah, wouldn't mind talking about hockey. Before this thread was infested by rodents people were projecting lines next season. Here is my updated roster projections.

Michael Mersch (L)-Mark Zengerle (R)-Tyler Barnes (R)
Ryan Little (L)- Derek Lee (R)-Joseph LaBate (L)
Jason Clark (L)-Jefferson Dahl (R)-Gavin Hartzog (R)
Brendan Woods (L)-Brad Navin (L)-Keegan Meuer (R)
Matt Paape (L)-Tyler Lapic (L)-Sean Little (R)

Justin Schultz (R)-Frankie Simonelli (R)
Jake McCabe (L)-John Ramage (R)
Eric Springer (L)-Joe Faust (R)
Patrick Daly (L)-Chase Drake (L)

Joel Rumpel
Mitch Thompson
Landon Peterson

[RinkPig]

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Blah, wouldn't mind talking about hockey. Before this thread was infested by rodents people were projecting lines next season. Here is my updated roster projections.

Michael Mersch (L)-Mark Zengerle (R)-Tyler Barnes (R)
Ryan Little (L)- Derek Lee (R)-Joseph LaBate (L)
Jason Clark (L)-Jefferson Dahl (R)-Gavin Hartzog (R)
Brendan Woods (L)-Brad Navin (L)-Keegan Meuer (R)
Matt Paape (L)-Tyler Lapic (L)-Sean Little (R)

Justin Schultz (R)-Frankie Simonelli (R)
Jake McCabe (L)-John Ramage (R)
Eric Springer (L)-Joe Faust (R)
Patrick Daly (L)-Chase Drake (L)

Joel Rumpel
Mitch Thompson
Landon Peterson

Justin Schultz is going to have to have a 100 point season next year for the Badgers to even finish .500. What a sad line up...Thank You Craig Smith! Guess it's back to the old Eaves dump and chase next year...have fun watching that Becky fans!

[cross cheque]

Re: Wisconsin Hockey: Vol. XVIII - Belief in a Better Tomorrow

Blah, wouldn't mind talking about hockey. Before this thread was infested by rodents people were projecting lines next season. Here is my updated roster projections.

Michael Mersch (L)-Mark Zengerle (R)-Tyler Barnes (R)
Ryan Little (L)- Derek Lee (R)-Joseph LaBate (L)
Jason Clark (L)-Jefferson Dahl (R)-Gavin Hartzog (R)
Brendan Woods (L)-Brad Navin (L)-Keegan Meuer (R)
Matt Paape (L)-Tyler Lapic (L)-Sean Little (R)

Justin Schultz (R)-Frankie Simonelli (R)
Jake McCabe (L)-John Ramage (R)
Eric Springer (L)-Joe Faust (R)
Patrick Daly (L)-Chase Drake (L)

Joel Rumpel
Mitch Thompson
Landon Peterson

Where is your scoring going to come from this season? I haven't heard much about your freshman class but I don't think any of your first liners listed above hit double digits in goal scoring although Zengerle had quite a few assists. Are your 'tenders in order of talent or is that just a list?

[cross cheque]

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I'm not exactly a new poster. I've posted here off and on for 5+ years. I just don't live here. Though statements like that are a true sign of not having anything of real substance to say.

If you don't want this type of discussion, you shouldn't try an tell us which championships we should and should not value, and which aspects of our program's history and tradition we should should and should not be proud of.

So keep digging. We both know I'm spot on

I'll tell you what championships you should value, arsehat. Count 'em up:

NCAA Champions

Year Champion Record
2011 Minn. Duluth 26-10-6
2010 Boston College 29-10-3
2009 Boston U. 35-6-4
2008 Boston College 25-11-8
2007 Michigan State 26-13-3
2006 Wisconsin 30-10-3
2005 Denver 32-9-2
2004 Denver 27-12-5
2003 Minnesota 30-8-9
2002 Minnesota 32-8-4
2001 Boston College 33-8-2
2000 North Dakota 31-8-5
1999 Maine 31-6-4
1998 Michigan 32-11-1
1997 North Dakota 31-10-2
1996 Michigan 33-7-2
1995 Boston U. 31-6-3
1994 Lake Superior St. 31-10-4
1993 Maine 42-1-2
1992 Lake Superior St. 30-9-4
1991 Northern Mich. 38-5-4
1990 Wisconsin 36-9-1
1989 Harvard 31-3
1988 Lake Superior St. 33-7-6
1987 North Dakota 40-8
1986 Michigan St. 34-9-2
1985 Rensselaer 35-2-1
1984 Bowling Green 34-8-2
1983 Wisconsin 33-10-4
1982 North Dakota 35-12
1981 Wisconsin 27-14-1
1980 North Dakota 31-8-1
1979 Minnesota 32-11-1
1978 Boston U. 30-2
1977 Wisconsin 37-7-1
1976 Minnesota 28-14-2
1975 Michigan Tech 32-10
1974 Minnesota 22-12-6
1973 Wisconsin 29-9-2
1972 Boston U. 26-4-1
1971 Boston U. 28-2-1
1970 Cornell 29-0)
1969 Denver 26-6
1968 Denver 28-5-1
1967 Cornell 27-1-1
1966 Michigan St. 16-13
1965 Michigan Tech 24-5-2
1964 Michigan 24-4-1
1963 North Dakota 22-7-3
1962 Michigan Tech 29-3
1961 Denver 30-1-1
1960 Denver 27-4-3
1959 North Dakota 20-10-1
1958 Denver 24-10-2
1957 Colorado Col. 25-5
1956 Michigan 20-2-1
1955 Michigan 18-5-1
1954 Rensselaer 18-5
1953 Michigan 17-7
1952 Michigan 22-4
1951 Michigan 22-4-1
1950 Colorado Col. 18-5-1
1949 Boston College 21-1
1948 Michigan 20-2-1

[JDUBBS1280]

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Where is your scoring going to come from this season? I haven't heard much about your freshman class but I don't think any of your first liners listed above hit double digits in goal scoring although Zengerle had quite a few assists. Are your 'tenders in order of talent or is that just a list?

I assume Rumpel is the projected starter. From what I have heard, there are some pretty high expectations for him.

[JDUBBS1280]

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I'll tell you what championships you should value, arsehat. Count 'em up:

NCAA Champions

Year Champion Record
2011 Minn. Duluth 26-10-6
2010 Boston College 29-10-3
2009 Boston U. 35-6-4
2008 Boston College 25-11-8
2007 Michigan State 26-13-3
2006 Wisconsin 30-10-3
2005 Denver 32-9-2
2004 Denver 27-12-5
2003 Minnesota 30-8-9
2002 Minnesota 32-8-4
2001 Boston College 33-8-2
2000 North Dakota 31-8-5
1999 Maine 31-6-4
1998 Michigan 32-11-1
1997 North Dakota 31-10-2
1996 Michigan 33-7-2
1995 Boston U. 31-6-3
1994 Lake Superior St. 31-10-4
1993 Maine 42-1-2
1992 Lake Superior St. 30-9-4
1991 Northern Mich. 38-5-4
1990 Wisconsin 36-9-1
1989 Harvard 31-3
1988 Lake Superior St. 33-7-6
1987 North Dakota 40-8
1986 Michigan St. 34-9-2
1985 Rensselaer 35-2-1
1984 Bowling Green 34-8-2
1983 Wisconsin 33-10-4
1982 North Dakota 35-12
1981 Wisconsin 27-14-1
1980 North Dakota 31-8-1
1979 Minnesota 32-11-1
1978 Boston U. 30-2
1977 Wisconsin 37-7-1
1976 Minnesota 28-14-2
1975 Michigan Tech 32-10
1974 Minnesota 22-12-6
1973 Wisconsin 29-9-2
1972 Boston U. 26-4-1
1971 Boston U. 28-2-1
1970 Cornell 29-0)
1969 Denver 26-6
1968 Denver 28-5-1
1967 Cornell 27-1-1
1966 Michigan St. 16-13
1965 Michigan Tech 24-5-2
1964 Michigan 24-4-1
1963 North Dakota 22-7-3
1962 Michigan Tech 29-3
1961 Denver 30-1-1
1960 Denver 27-4-3
1959 North Dakota 20-10-1
1958 Denver 24-10-2
1957 Colorado Col. 25-5
1956 Michigan 20-2-1
1955 Michigan 18-5-1
1954 Rensselaer 18-5
1953 Michigan 17-7
1952 Michigan 22-4
1951 Michigan 22-4-1
1950 Colorado Col. 18-5-1
1949 Boston College 21-1
1948 Michigan 20-2-1

I do value the 5 NCAA championships the Gophers have. But as hard as you try and ignore this fact, hockey was played at the collegiate level (at least by our program it consistently was) prior to 1948. And I value that history too.

[Timothy A]

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Please, stop. We both know 70% of your fanbase doesn't know the meaning of the term or why they are chanting it.

This is from Webster's New International Internet Dictionary:

1. (Engineering / Tools) a device for separating lumps from powdered material, straining liquids, grading particles, etc., consisting of a container with a mesh or perforated bottom through which the material is shaken or poured
2. Rare a person who gossips and spreads secrets
3. Slang a goalie playing against the University of Wisconsin (USA) Men's hockey team

It's right there in black and white.

On the non-educational front, UW's incoming recruiting class is ranked 6th, and Rumpel is a stud-a-licious tender. Fear the Rumpel Rink. Now I'm not saying UW is going to win the WCHA or anything, but home ice and a ncaa tourney bid are reasonable expectations. If Smith stays it's a different story.

[JDUBBS1280]

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This is from Webster's New International Internet Dictionary:

1. (Engineering / Tools) a device for separating lumps from powdered material, straining liquids, grading particles, etc., consisting of a container with a mesh or perforated bottom through which the material is shaken or poured
2. Rare a person who gossips and spreads secrets
3. Slang a goalie playing against the University of Wisconsin (USA) Men's hockey team

It's right there in black and white.

On the non-educational front, UW's incoming recruiting class is ranked 6th, and Rumpel is a stud-a-licious tender. Fear the Rumpel Rink. Now I'm not saying UW is going to win the WCHA or anything, but home ice and a ncaa tourney bid are reasonable expectations. If Smith stays it's a different story.

Ha, Ha, Ha (bolded above).

I do agree with you that Rumpel is going to be a good goaltender. I hope he isn't, but it would be less than honest if I said I didn't think he would be. As for expectations, after watching the Gophers play well under their potential for the last 4+ years, I have learned that what you have on paper doesn't always translate to production on the ice. That goes both ways. On paper you lost a lot of your scoring, but I don't think anyone is counting Wisconsin out this season.

[Gandalf the Red]

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Justin Schultz is going to have to have a 100 point season next year for the Badgers to even finish .500. What a sad line up...Thank You Craig Smith! Guess it's back to the old Eaves dump and chase next year...have fun watching that Becky fans!

Yes, because the gophers returning players are so flush w/ returning scoring that the rest of the WCHA has already forfeited all games against them this season out of fear. Or will the overrated Seth Ambroz scored 45 goals this season?

No doubt the Badgers don't have a lot of obvious offensive punch coming back at forward, but go crawl back into your hole since your team of "top six guys in MN," who Lucia has worked hard to **** away their talent, don't strike fear into anyone right now.