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lkenney
03-23-2011, 06:19 PM
I think it bodes well he hasn't left yet, I figured he'd be gone but remember what happened with Jimmy, a few weeks before school started and away he went

I don't think Goose would do that.

Ma#1ne Hky
03-23-2011, 06:30 PM
I think it bodes well he hasn't left yet, I figured he'd be gone but remember what happened with Jimmy, a few weeks before school started and away he went If I remember correctly on the Howard deal...the NHL had just gotten a New CBA on drafted players,and that it more or less made signing after his Junior year better for him and with that...we have seen more Juniors leave in College Hockey because of it...thats where College Hockey and the NHL have been at odd's the last few years.

acs64
03-23-2011, 06:31 PM
I don't think Goose would do that.
Actually, does it matter one way or the other if Nyquist returns? Yet another disappointing season? Who cares for that?

walrus
03-23-2011, 06:45 PM
I don't think Goose would do that.

Why do you think that? This is business, I expect Jimmy did what he thought was right for his career and I expect Gus to do the same thing, that is, whats right for Gus and his career

lkenney
03-23-2011, 07:32 PM
Why do you think that? This is business, I expect Jimmy did what he thought was right for his career and I expect Gus to do the same thing, that is, whats right for Gus and his career

I know, it's just a gut feeling I have that he will make a decision one way or another soon.

lkenney
03-23-2011, 07:34 PM
Actually, does it matter one way or the other if Nyquist returns? Yet another disappointing season? Who cares for that?

I'll be happy for him if decides to go pro, but I would love to see him play in the tournament.

MEbear
03-23-2011, 08:15 PM
Don't be ridiculous. Hockey East never kicked out Merrimack. ;) Besides, every league needs someone at the bottom of the barrel to beat on.

It's going to be a long haul for the new coach. It's going to take someone who can sell UMaine to recruits like it was in the glory days. It was built from nothing before.
That was then, but now if there is interest from an established, division one hockey team, that's located closer to Boston, to join Hockey East, that could bring pressure to get rid of one of the existing lower tier Hockey East schools. It's one thing to keep a team around that never wins if it's convenient to play them, but compared to all the other schools in the league (except UVM) it's a PIA to travel all the way to Orono and back. As long as we were among the HE leaders it would be pretty hard for anyone to make a case that we be the ones to go, but not quite so hard to broach that subject if we are a school that weakens the league AND they really don't want to travel all the way up here anyway.

It WAS built from nothing before, but it took a once in a lifetime charismatic coach to do it. Now, even that same coach might not be able to pull it off with more sophisticated recruiting from other schools, and more big money schools fielding division one hockey teams and competing for the good players. If Maine hockey is allowed to slide much further down, even if they hire a capable coach, I don't think our team will ever make it back to national prominence because the competition is so much greater now than it used to be. By fiddling while Rome burns, the current UM powers that be are giving away something very precious, something that we'll probably never see again in Orono, Maine, a nationally prominent team with MAINE sewed onto their uniforms. I absolutely hate it but can't see anything happening until it's too late, the nature of the bureaucratic beast, don't do anything even a little bit risky or controversial unless/until you absolutely have to.

rufus
03-23-2011, 08:21 PM
I'll be happy for him if decides to go pro, but I would love to see him play in the tournament.

Like that's gonna happen.

MaineMan
03-23-2011, 10:31 PM
Like that's gonna happen.

It very well could if he stays for next year. Maine is a great team next year if Nyquist, Abbott, Flynn, and O'Neill stay. If Gustav leaves.. that's another story.

BoSox3066
03-24-2011, 12:05 AM
If Gus goes he's gonna go. Detroits gonna want him to play out the end of the AHL season. Howard was different because of the lockout and because the team made the NCAA tournament, season ended later less minor pro season left.

Fishman'81
03-24-2011, 02:24 AM
It very well could if he stays for next year. Maine is a great team next year if Nyquist, Abbott, Flynn, and O'Neill stay. If Gustav leaves.. that's another story.

(Not sure about "great"...Maine still needs goaltending and at least a couple of reliable D-men to even be "solid",IMO.)

Judging strictly from the couple of interviews I've seen,Gus is having fun being a student at Maine,and would like to stick around.(Hell,I stayed there for an extra semester myself,I was having such a good time!)

Doesn't the NHL CBA dictate that he re-enters the free agent market if he comes back to Maine after 3 years, post-draft,though?(Not that he wouldn't go even higher in the draft his next time around,but he might end up in Columbus,for example...)Detroit is a first-class operation,and a hard option to pass up.I won't fault him a bit if he bolts.

Whatever he decides,he has given us more than our money's worth.I'd love to see #89 wearing Blue one more year,but I'll root for him no matter where he ends up in '12. It's certainly not on him that he hasn't had a capable head coach for three long years.

walrus
03-24-2011, 04:09 AM
I'll be happy for him if decides to go pro, but I would love to see him play in the tournament.

Selfishly I'd just like to see him play in Orono again. I don't see why he would unless he really wants a degree and his having fun in school. Hockey wise I just don't see anything for him in Orono

dwollstadt
03-24-2011, 07:46 AM
(Not sure about "great"...Maine still needs goaltending and at least a couple of reliable D-men to even be "solid",IMO.)
Judging strictly from the couple of interviews I've seen,Gus is having fun being a student at Maine,and would like to stick around.(Hell,I stayed there for an extra semester myself,I was having such a good time!)

Doesn't the NHL CBA dictate that he re-enters the free agent market if he comes back to Maine after 3 years, post-draft,though?(Not that he wouldn't go even higher in the draft his next time around,but he might end up in Columbus,for example...)Detroit is a first-class operation,and a hard option to pass up.I won't fault him a bit if he bolts.

Whatever he decides,he has given us more than our money's worth.I'd love to see #89 wearing Blue one more year,but I'll root for him no matter where he ends up in '12. It's certainly not on him that he hasn't had a capable head coach for three long years.If Nyquist stays at Maine for his senior year, he's still a Detroit draftee, but only until August. If Detroit hasn't signed him by then, he will become a free agent and can negotiate with any other team in the NHL.

rufus
03-24-2011, 02:38 PM
It very well could if he stays for next year. Maine is a great team next year if Nyquist, Abbott, Flynn, and O'Neill stay. If Gustav leaves.. that's another story.

They were a better team this year. Look what happened.

If this were the '93 team, TIMMAY would have them on the edge of missing the NCAA's.

walrus
03-24-2011, 03:30 PM
If this were the '93 team, TIMMAY would have them on the edge of missing the NCAA's.

I've seen Tim called some bad things on here but that leaves a mark

acs64
03-24-2011, 04:01 PM
I've seen Tim called some bad things on here but that leaves a mark

Sad thing is, its probably true. :(

Runsub5
03-24-2011, 06:26 PM
Rachel Lenzi reporting that Josh Van Dyk has signed with the AHL Abbotsford Heat (Calgary Flames affiliate) and Mike Banwell has signed with the Albany Devils.

amherstblackbear
03-24-2011, 07:12 PM
That was then, but now if there is interest from an established, division one hockey team, that's located closer to Boston, to join Hockey East, that could bring pressure to get rid of one of the existing lower tier Hockey East schools. It's one thing to keep a team around that never wins if it's convenient to play them, but compared to all the other schools in the league (except UVM) it's a PIA to travel all the way to Orono and back. As long as we were among the HE leaders it would be pretty hard for anyone to make a case that we be the ones to go, but not quite so hard to broach that subject if we are a school that weakens the league AND they really don't want to travel all the way up here anyway.

It WAS built from nothing before, but it took a once in a lifetime charismatic coach to do it. Now, even that same coach might not be able to pull it off with more sophisticated recruiting from other schools, and more big money schools fielding division one hockey teams and competing for the good players. If Maine hockey is allowed to slide much further down, even if they hire a capable coach, I don't think our team will ever make it back to national prominence because the competition is so much greater now than it used to be. By fiddling while Rome burns, the current UM powers that be are giving away something very precious, something that we'll probably never see again in Orono, Maine, a nationally prominent team with MAINE sewed onto their uniforms. I absolutely hate it but can't see anything happening until it's too late, the nature of the bureaucratic beast, don't do anything even a little bit risky or controversial unless/until you absolutely have to.

Short version: Maine is done.

It was a blast to watch those teams, though. Vive Le Pompier!

fiqure8
03-24-2011, 08:31 PM
Rachel Lenzi reporting that Josh Van Dyk has signed with the AHL Abbotsford Heat (Calgary Flames affiliate) and Mike Banwell has signed with the Albany Devils.

Flynn, O'Neil, Abbott back next year........Gustav undecided.........

Maine Event
03-24-2011, 09:06 PM
This weekend my wife and I will be heading up to Manchester to watch some exciting college hockey at the NCAA Northeast Regional. As we always do when Maine’s not playing, we’ll pick a team and root for them like they’re our own. In less than two weeks we will head to St. Paul on our way to our 8th consecutive Frozen Four for a great week of hockey festivities and again to watch some exciting college hockey. Again, we’ll pick a team (North Dakota if they’re there) and root for them like they’re our own. In early May, we will attend the Maine Hockey Banquet and officially close out the 2010-2011 Maine hockey season by saying good-bye to the Seniors (and hopefully, only the Seniors).

Then, I will begin piecing together the 2011-2012 Maine Black Bear schedule. I know Maine will be going to North Dakota (I plan to be there) and I know that Nebraska-Omaha will be coming to the Alfond (I plan to be there). The returning veterans, led by seniors Brian, Spencer, Will, Ryan, Theo, Josh, (and who knows, maybe even Gustav – one can dream can’t he?) will come in next year ready to play and we’ll witness some exciting hockey in 2011-2012.

Go Blue! Go Black Bears!! Go Maine!!! :)