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KnowItAll
03-21-2011, 10:05 AM
Great idea. However, with the state of affairs as they are, who in their right mind would walk into a situation like this. Athletes and coaches alike. At least a little noise is being made in the press. But honestly, does anyone think it will do any good. AND does anyone really care aside from a small group of longtime fans. The majority of people in this state don't give a rats arse about Umaine athletics. I consider myself one of the longtime fans, but found myself slipping into an apathetic state this season. I haven't even had the passion to post on this board. I hate feeling this way.

money talks.
as you and more like you slip into apathy, less money will be rolling in.
The UND and UNH games were not sold out this season.
When was the last time Maine lost THOSE ticket sales?

ck1969
03-21-2011, 10:41 AM
money talks.
as you and more like you slip into apathy, less money will be rolling in.
The UND and UNH games were not sold out this season.
When was the last time Maine lost THOSE ticket sales?

You can throw all the money you want at Whitehead. It's not gonna make him a better coach.

acs64
03-21-2011, 12:24 PM
You can throw all the money you want at Whitehead. It's not gonna make him a better coach.

Nothing will make timmay a better coach :D We've established that as a fact already. What KIA is alluding to is that if ticket sales and revenue drop enough due to the present chitty product that Whitehead is trying to pass on as a hockey team, then others will take notice and maybe chitcan his sorry azz. If Whitehead really cared about the program as he claims he does, he would step down now, before his contract expires, and let the University fill his position with someone more qualified.

walrus
03-21-2011, 01:32 PM
Anyone paying attention to Union? Nate Lehman former Asst under Shawn is done one heck of a job there. Their PP is killer, close to 31% or something stupid like that. Everyone talks about Jimmy, why not Nate?

TripleE
03-21-2011, 01:36 PM
money talks.
as you and more like you slip into apathy, less money will be rolling in.
The UND and UNH games were not sold out this season.
When was the last time Maine lost THOSE ticket sales?

The average, per game attendence over the last 3 seasons is approximately 4,489. Maine maintained their sellout streak (5,641 at the time) over the majority of Tim's first 3 seasons. That's 1,152 fewer tickets per game

Let's not even factor in:
--Not as many people are paying the additional donations for premium seating.
--Over the last 3 years, Maine has offered group discount rates of $10 per ticket not previously offered
--Season ticket rates have dropped from $19 per ticket to $18. Doesn't sound like a big deal. But if there were 3,000 season tickets held at 17 home games per year, that's over $150,000 in 3 years time.

So even if you assume all those attendees are paying "normal price", and you average single game tickets and season ticket holder tickets, and call the rate $19/ticket... And, for the sake of consistency, say the team averages 17 Home Games per year.

$19 x 1,152 tickets = $21,888 per game. Multiplied by 51 games over a 3 year span =

We're minus $1,116,288 in ticket revenue pace alone compared to Tim's first 3 years.

NOW, let's factor in...
-concession sales. If each lost attendee would have paid $3 in concessions, thats another $175,000
-merch sales. No real way to figure it, but do you suppose those are up or down?
-Private Donations. We all know James ****ed off the Kings. How do you suppose our overall donations are faring?
-Season ticket price drop. As I said, that figures in another 6 digit number.

SO HOW CAN WE BLAME OR EXCUSE IT??

Must be reflective of the poor economy?...

I don't buy it. The prospect of a bounce back year had ticket sales UP over 700 attendees per game this year compared to last. You suppose those numbers are going to jump again next year after this year's performance with seemingly elite talent? I don't. I expect them to drop, once again.


Tim's influence has lost this program well over 1 million dollars over the course of his last 3 years compared to his first 3 years. A team with so much talent lost or tied 12 games they led in this year - most of those leads or ties blown late. That's the equivalent of an NHL team losing 27 games they led in, late, and a traditionally proud hockey market seeing their revenue and interest flounder -- and for the first time since 2006/2007.... 'Next Year' has a more grim outlook than THIS year...and we didnt do ANYTHING this year.


The fact that this is tolerated by anyone is beyond me.

BoSox3066
03-21-2011, 02:27 PM
Anyone paying attention to Union? Nate Lehman former Asst under Shawn is done one heck of a job there. Their PP is killer, close to 31% or something stupid like that. Everyone talks about Jimmy, why not Nate?

Heckuva point. I remember how pizzed i was at losin to those guys a few years back. Guess they had the last laugh on that one. Not sure about the ezac jump to hockey east though. Think toot cahoon.

KnowItAll
03-21-2011, 02:43 PM
Heckuva point. I remember how pizzed i was at losin to those guys a few years back. Guess they had the last laugh on that one. Not sure about the ezac jump to hockey east though. Think toot cahoon.

Toot did fine when he had a top recruiter working for him

KnowItAll
03-21-2011, 02:50 PM
Nothing will make timmay a better coach :D We've established that as a fact already. What KIA is alluding to is that if ticket sales and revenue drop enough due to the present chitty product that Whitehead is trying to pass on as a hockey team, then others will take notice and maybe chitcan his sorry azz. If Whitehead really cared about the program as he claims he does, he would step down now, before his contract expires, and let the University fill his position with someone more qualified.

It was truly bizzarre when he said that nobody cared more about the program... He cares now... while he is coaching at maine, but I can promise that unlike the internet nutcases... once he is at Hamilton, where he belongs, he will NOT be driving up to Orono to see home games and to Merrimack,Lowell, Providence and ***** North Dakota, like the "internet nutcases" who, according to him, care at least a little bit less about the program than he does.

If Blake had any loyalty, he would have stuck a fork in his buddy, telling him "it is not that I love you less, it is that I love Maine hockey more.... et tu, Blake... then... fall caesar"

hey, as I think of it, his haircut look alot like sting's AND Caesar's... we should call him little caesar

Potato in NH
03-21-2011, 03:28 PM
Gaius Julius Timmay?

walrus
03-21-2011, 03:49 PM
Heckuva point. I remember how pizzed i was at losin to those guys a few years back. Guess they had the last laugh on that one. Not sure about the ezac jump to hockey east though. Think toot cahoon.

Toot didn't work with Shawn

irishfan85
03-21-2011, 04:00 PM
Toot didn't work with Shawn

UMass hasn't been the same since Dennehy's recruiting left to go to Merrimack. Coincidence? I think not. I'm very impressed with Leaman.

Ma#1ne Hky
03-21-2011, 04:12 PM
Anyone paying attention to Union? Nate Lehman former Asst under Shawn is done one heck of a job there. Their PP is killer, close to 31% or something stupid like that. Everyone talks about Jimmy, why not Nate? I think he's at the place he wants to be. Didn't Ohio State go after him..?

sandiegoblkbr
03-21-2011, 04:13 PM
Latest "rumor"......talk of Notre Dame and Miami to Hockey East!!!

Hockeypuck
03-21-2011, 04:37 PM
It was truly bizzarre when he said that nobody cared more about the program. If he cared that much about the program he would do what's best for it and quit.

Ma#1ne Hky
03-21-2011, 04:45 PM
The average, per game attendence over the last 3 seasons is approximately 4,489. Maine maintained their sellout streak (5,641 at the time) over the majority of Tim's first 3 seasons. That's 1,152 fewer tickets per game

Let's not even factor in:
--Not as many people are paying the additional donations for premium seating.
--Over the last 3 years, Maine has offered group discount rates of $10 per ticket not previously offered
--Season ticket rates have dropped from $19 per ticket to $18. Doesn't sound like a big deal. But if there were 3,000 season tickets held at 17 home games per year, that's over $150,000 in 3 years time.

So even if you assume all those attendees are paying "normal price", and you average single game tickets and season ticket holder tickets, and call the rate $19/ticket... And, for the sake of consistency, say the team averages 17 Home Games per year.

$19 x 1,152 tickets = $21,888 per game. Multiplied by 51 games over a 3 year span =

We're minus $1,116,288 in ticket revenue pace alone compared to Tim's first 3 years.

NOW, let's factor in...
-concession sales. If each lost attendee would have paid $3 in concessions, thats another $175,000
-merch sales. No real way to figure it, but do you suppose those are up or down?
-Private Donations. We all know James ****ed off the Kings. How do you suppose our overall donations are faring?
-Season ticket price drop. As I said, that figures in another 6 digit number.

SO HOW CAN WE BLAME OR EXCUSE IT??

Must be reflective of the poor economy?...

I don't buy it. The prospect of a bounce back year had ticket sales UP over 700 attendees per game this year compared to last. You suppose those numbers are going to jump again next year after this year's performance with seemingly elite talent? I don't. I expect them to drop, once again.


Tim's influence has lost this program well over 1 million dollars over the course of his last 3 years compared to his first 3 years. A team with so much talent lost or tied 12 games they led in this year - most of those leads or ties blown late. That's the equivalent of an NHL team losing 27 games they led in, late, and a traditionally proud hockey market seeing their revenue and interest flounder -- and for the first time since 2006/2007.... 'Next Year' has a more grim outlook than THIS year...and we didnt do ANYTHING this year.


The fact that this is tolerated by anyone is beyond me. Hopefully when the NEW AD is in place...send your FACT's to him with your name...FACT's don't LIE...

walrus
03-21-2011, 05:18 PM
I think he's at the place he wants to be. Didn't Ohio State go after him..?

Ohio state is a huge University, hockey is obviously nothing there. Compare and contrast to Union or Maine. I don't know if he would be interested or not but I think he's a viable candidate, probably a better choice than an unproved Jimmy who everyone waxes poetic about.

Ma#1ne Hky
03-21-2011, 06:17 PM
Ohio state is a huge University, hockey is obviously nothing there. Compare and contrast to Union or Maine. I don't know if he would be interested or not but I think he's a viable candidate, probably a better choice than an unproved Jimmy who everyone waxes poetic about. Maybe,Maybe not...I would take my chances with Montgomery anytime. I would hope and that would be IF a change ever happens at UM Hockey that they have several people on a list to be interviewed....like say a Red Gendron/Leeman/Montgomery...etc. say 6 to 3 then 1.

sandiegoblkbr
03-21-2011, 06:23 PM
I think that Montgomery needs 1 more year of seasoning as a head coach in the USHL. That should coincide nicely with another TIMMAY flop of a season in 2011-2012 when a buyout becomes a bit more realistic as only 2 years would remain on his contract and increased fan/donor pressure may be enough to get the "new" AD to make a move.

Gusforhobey
03-21-2011, 06:24 PM
Latest "rumor"......talk of Notre Dame and Miami to Hockey East!!!
maine would be screwed

fiqure8
03-21-2011, 07:13 PM
Is this for real.........? Where are u getting your info ?