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  • #91
    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

    Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    Honestly, if I could find Media Guides from after their last season, I could include them in the rankings. If you can find digital copies (or physical copies) of each of the teams, I'll gladly go through them and get the data I need to put them in the formula. I guess we would first need a list of all the defunct/no longer d-1 programs and then get the information/media guides. My guess is that it would be terribly difficult to 1) come up with a list of every program and then 2) find the media guides/information that included all the data that we would need.

    Again though, if you can find it, let me know, and I'll put in the work to include them in the formula. For now, I'm going to continue with just the current programs.
    You can add that to the list this summer if you can get all the data.

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    • #92
      Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

      Does the formula use success percentages? For example, older programs will naturally have more hardware, but if you do championships/year...
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      • #93
        Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

        Originally posted by Priceless View Post
        You can add that to the list this summer if you can get all the data.
        That what I was thinking, although in all likelihood I think it would be at earliest Summer 2012.
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        • #94
          Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

          Originally posted by Erix_The_Red View Post
          Does the formula use success percentages? For example, older programs will naturally have more hardware, but if you do championships/year...
          Not in that regard. I was debating about using a formula I use for World Cup Soccer, which accounts for success/cup. I eventually decided against doing so. My thought process was that since this is for "all-time", programs with more history should get some sort of advantage. What could easily be done though, is you could take the amount of points a team has, and divide by the number of years that they have played D-1 hockey. Then you could rank by who has the highest points/year.
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          • #95
            Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

            Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
            What could easily be done though, is you could take the amount of points a team has, and divide by the number of years that they have played D-1 hockey. Then you could rank by who has the highest points/year.
            Well maybe I'll do just that.
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            • #96
              Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

              *****http://www.undhockey.net/mack.jpg******

              Merrimack, to date, has only made 1 NCAA Tournament, advancing to the Quarterfinals of the 1988 Tourney before losing to eventual National Champion LSSU 8-4 in a two game, total goal series (3-4, 5-0). The Warriors are looking to advance further up this list with their performance this year. Merrimack is in line for their 2nd NCAA Tournament bid, and could potentially be a #1 seed. As for now, the Mack comes in at #45.

              #45 Merrimack - 3.1402 Points
              #46 Massachusetts - 3.0035 Points
              #47 Alaska - 2.9892 Points
              #48 Nebraska Omaha - 2.9092 Points
              #49 Minnesota State - 2.3131 points
              #50 Alabama Huntsville - 1.9469 Points
              #51 Army - 1.3604 points
              #52 Union - 0.6174 points
              #53 UConn - 0.1921 Points
              #54 Sacred Heart - 0.1703 Points
              #55 Bentley - .0279 points
              #56 Robert Morris - .0245 points
              #57 Canisius - .0205 points
              #58 American International - .0061 points
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              • #97
                Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
                *****http://www.undhockey.net/umass.jpg******

                The UMass Minutemen made the most of their one NCAA Tournament appearance in 2007, knocking off #1 seed Clarkson in overtime before falling to Maine in the Quarterfinals. Since joining Hockey East, UMass has struggled, putting up only one 20+ win season (2007). However, they play a quality schedule every season, and if they can put together more 20+ win seasons, I would anticipate them moving up the list.

                #46 Massachusetts - 3.0035 Points
                #47 Alaska - 2.9892 Points
                #48 Nebraska Omaha - 2.9092 Points
                #49 Minnesota State - 2.3131 points
                #50 Alabama Huntsville - 1.9469 Points
                #51 Army - 1.3604 points
                #52 Union - 0.6174 points
                #53 UConn - 0.1921 Points
                #54 Sacred Heart - 0.1703 Points
                #55 Bentley - .0279 points
                #56 Robert Morris - .0245 points
                #57 Canisius - .0205 points
                #58 American International - .0061 points
                How is UMass behind Merrimack?
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                • #98
                  Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                  Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
                  *****http://www.undhockey.net/mack.jpg******

                  Merrimack, to date, has only made 1 NCAA Tournament, advancing to the Quarterfinals of the 1988 Tourney before losing to eventual National Champion LSSU 8-4 in a two game, total goal series (3-4, 5-0). The Warriors are looking to advance further up this list with their performance this year. Merrimack is in line for their 2nd NCAA Tournament bid, and could potentially be a #1 seed. As for now, the Mack comes in at #45.

                  #45 Merrimack - 3.1402 Points
                  #46 Massachusetts - 3.0035 Points
                  #47 Alaska - 2.9892 Points
                  #48 Nebraska Omaha - 2.9092 Points
                  #49 Minnesota State - 2.3131 points
                  #50 Alabama Huntsville - 1.9469 Points
                  #51 Army - 1.3604 points
                  #52 Union - 0.6174 points
                  #53 UConn - 0.1921 Points
                  #54 Sacred Heart - 0.1703 Points
                  #55 Bentley - .0279 points
                  #56 Robert Morris - .0245 points
                  #57 Canisius - .0205 points
                  #58 American International - .0061 points
                  MC should get bonus points for scouting kids in that other french country.
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                  Maine will be better this year relative to rankings than BC will be this year

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                  • #99
                    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                    Originally posted by bcfan131 View Post
                    How is UMass behind Merrimack?
                    Their coaches name is TooT. That counts against them.
                    Originally posted by Hokydad
                    Maine will be better this year relative to rankings than BC will be this year

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                    • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                      Originally posted by bcfan131 View Post
                      How is UMass behind Merrimack?
                      Simple Math
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                      • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                        Originally posted by bcfan131 View Post
                        How is UMass behind Merrimack?
                        46 comes after 45.
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                        • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                          Pleasantly surprised that Brown hasn't been mentioned yet! I guess all that decent play in the 60's and 70's is saving our behinds right now.

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                          • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                            Originally posted by bcfan131 View Post
                            How is UMass behind Merrimack?
                            Alphabetically?

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                            • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                              Originally posted by bcfan131 View Post
                              How is UMass behind Merrimack?
                              It's more amazing that UMass is so close to Merrimack. What would the argument be for UMass being higher? Is it better than "I've paid attention for only 4 or 5 years and spouted off without considering that hockey was being played before then"?
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                              • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                                Originally posted by bcfan131 View Post
                                How is UMass behind Merrimack?
                                Because that's the way Merrimack likes it?

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