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  • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

    Originally posted by komey1 View Post
    Your correction is appreciated.
    Your correction is greatly appreciated by Michigan Tech because not much else has gone well for us this season. Top 10 in poll of any kind... I guess we'll take it at this point. If we win our next four games, that should bump us up to #2 past UND, or at least earn us one heck of a party in Houghton. I might actually have to make my way over to Ralph for the 1st round as it might be my last excuse to see it "as built" before they strip it bare and leave a bland and PC green and black building.

    I hope they change the name of the team to the Fighting Whiteys to honor my pilgrim settler heritage. I heard I get free season tickets if the team is named after my ancestors...
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    • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

      Any possible way that RPI could have picked up 20.6 points this season to move ahead of Harvard on the all-time list?

      (I know you said you'd update after the season, just getting a bit antsy).

      Also, RPI is one school among several that really deserves bonus points for the quality of its fans and its Pep Band, no matter how you slice the metrics, they definitely should get points for these categories (as should certain other schools).
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      • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

        Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
        Any possible way that RPI could have picked up 20.6 points this season to move ahead of Harvard on the all-time list?

        (I know you said you'd update after the season, just getting a bit antsy).

        Also, RPI is one school among several that really deserves bonus points for the quality of its fans and its Pep Band, no matter how you slice the metrics, they definitely should get points for these categories (as should certain other schools).
        Fan quality is way too subjective, so I don't think it would be a very good thing to measure in what FS23 seems to have developed to be an objective measure of the quality of each current NCAA D-I men's ice hockey program (although I don't agree with a certain school being ranked above us, but that's beside the point).

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          Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
          Fan quality is way too subjective
          We had an extensive colloquy earlier in this thread regarding various objective metrics by which one could measure this elusive quality. The conclusion was that it would have been nice had that discussion occurred far earlier in the process as the formula was not going to be adjusted to include any of those metrics.
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          • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

            Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
            We had an extensive colloquy earlier in this thread regarding various objective metrics by which one could measure this elusive quality. The conclusion was that it would have been nice had that discussion occurred far earlier in the process as the formula was not going to be adjusted to include any of those metrics.
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            • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

              Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
              Any possible way that RPI could have picked up 20.6 points this season to move ahead of Harvard on the all-time list?

              (I know you said you'd update after the season, just getting a bit antsy).

              Also, RPI is one school among several that really deserves bonus points for the quality of its fans and its Pep Band, no matter how you slice the metrics, they definitely should get points for these categories (as should certain other schools).
              Unfortunately RPI did not pick up 20.6 points, and it doesn't look like they will move up in the rankings at the end of the season. Duluth or Notre Dame could be big winners though if they win the national title. Obviously Michigan will increase their lead if they win it all (or even if they just advance to the title game). I don't think North Dakota can catch Michigan, even if they win it all, but they can get pretty close.
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                Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
                Unfortunately RPI did not pick up 20.6 points, and it doesn't look like they will move up in the rankings at the end of the season. Duluth or Notre Dame could be big winners though if they win the national title. Obviously Michigan will increase their lead if they win it all (or even if they just advance to the title game). I don't think North Dakota can catch Michigan, even if they win it all, but they can get pretty close.
                How much could one title for a non-titled school increase their points?
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                • Originally posted by Runninwiththedogs View Post
                  How much could one title for a non-titled school increase their points?
                  There really isn't much of a difference for winning it all as a titled school than a non titled school, but if Duluth wins it all they could very well jump up 3-5 spots in the rankings. I haven't done the exact calculations but I think they would be very close to RPI with a title.
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                  • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                    Originally posted by Runninwiththedogs View Post
                    Do you have another book to promote or something?
                    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Runninwiththedogs again.
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                    • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                      Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
                      There really isn't much of a difference for winning it all as a titled school than a non titled school, but if Duluth wins it all they could very well jump up 3-5 spots in the rankings. I haven't done the exact calculations but I think they would be very close to RPI with a title.
                      Neat, thanks. LET'S GO BULLDOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                      Originally posted by Rhett View Post
                      Excellent work.
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                      • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                        Waiting with baited breath to see the update.

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                        • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                          Originally posted by dggoddard View Post
                          I'll take DU's 7 National Championships, 13 MacNaughtons & 15 WCHA Playoff Championships over Wisconsin's 6 NC's, 3 MacNaughtons & 8 Playoff Championships.

                          In the WCHA, DU is tied for 1st in NC's with UND, tied for 1st in MacNaughton's with UND and 1st in WCHA Playoff Championships.
                          Well, Bucky does have a longer history than that of DU, and they were flat out dominant between 73 and 83 with 8 final four appearances, four title games and three titles. Furthermore, they are the only program which has won titles in the 70's, 80's 90's and the 00's. I have Bucky at four, DU at five, and BU at six.

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                          • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                            Originally posted by skeptic View Post
                            Well, Bucky does have a longer history than that of DU, and they were flat out dominant between 73 and 83 with 8 final four appearances, four title games and three titles. Furthermore, they are the only program which has won titles in the 70's, 80's 90's and the 00's. I have Bucky at four, DU at five, and BU at six.
                            Denver has a longer history.
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                            • Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

                              Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
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                              Minnesota Duluth comes in at #20. The Bulldogs have 6 NCAA Tournament appearances, and made the most of those trips, advancing to the Frozen Four three times. Their best run was in 1984 when the Bulldogs came within a bounce of winning the title, losing in 4 Overtimes to Bowling Green. While Duluth hasn't always been the most consistent team, they have 4 Hobey Baker Award winners. That is tied for the most winners by any team. Minnesota Duluth is on pace for another NCAA Appearance this year, and could very well make another Frozen Four.

                              #20 Minnesota Duluth - 66.5522 Points
                              #21 St. Lawrence - 64.6435 Points
                              #22 Providence - 37.9103 Points
                              #23 Miami - 36.9575 Points
                              #24 Dartmouth - 35.143 Points
                              #25 Notre Dame - 33.5788 Points
                              #26 Yale - 29.1241 Points
                              #27 Colgate - 27.7915 Points
                              #28 Northeastern - 24.5696 Points
                              #29 Brown - 18.3317 Points
                              #30 Ohio State - 17.0403 Points
                              #31 Vermont - 15.8285 Points
                              #32 St. Cloud State - 12.4129 Points
                              #33 Bemidji State - 11.4454 Points
                              #34 RIT - 8.1655 Points
                              #35 Ferris State - 7.8912 Points
                              #36 UMass Lowell - 7.1081 Points
                              #37 Niagara - 6.4381 Points
                              #38 Western Michigan - 5.3974 Points
                              #39 Princeton - 5.1729 Points
                              #40 Holy Cross - 4.8647 Points
                              #41 Alaska-Anchorage - 4.8361 Points
                              #42 Air Force - 4.1704 Points
                              #43 Quinnipiac - 3.8994 Points
                              #44 Mercyhurst - 3.468 Points
                              #45 Merrimack - 3.1402 Points
                              #46 Massachusetts - 3.0035 Points
                              #47 Alaska - 2.9892 Points
                              #48 Nebraska Omaha - 2.9092 Points
                              #49 Minnesota State - 2.3131 Points
                              #50 Alabama Huntsville - 1.9469 Points
                              #51 Army - 1.3604 Points
                              #52 Union - 0.6174 Points
                              #53 UConn - 0.1921 Points
                              #54 Sacred Heart - 0.1703 Points
                              #55 Bentley - .0279 Points
                              #56 Robert Morris - .0245 Points
                              #57 Canisius - .0205 Points
                              #58 American International - .0061 Points
                              Wonder how high they'll jump now. Higher than RPI and Clarkson?
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                                #54 Sacred Heart - 0.1703 Points
                                #55 Bentley - .0279 points
                                #56 Robert Morris - .0245 points
                                #57 Canisius - .0205 points
                                #58 American International - .0061 points

                                i'd like to see these 5 schools drop down to division III, and promote 5 programs from the club level that would be a better fit for division I college hockey, ala Penn State. I'm thinking URI, Illinois, Navy, Iowa State and Ohio U.

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