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gscott13
03-10-2011, 10:51 PM
Another Northeastern win would make them a TUC ...and then it would really get interesting for Maine in the Pairwise...course the Bears would need to get by Merrimack to take advantage of the possible comparison gains.

yep, now they need to take advantage of it...

Gusforhobey
03-10-2011, 11:12 PM
maybe somebody has some insight on this question. Does Maine need to win the HE tournament to advance to the NCAA tournament?

gscott13
03-10-2011, 11:18 PM
maybe somebody has some insight on this question. Does Maine need to win the HE tournament to advance to the NCAA tournament?

they can get in without winning it... nu knocking off bu in the quarters will go a long way toward that endeavor... that said, they need help... there's another thread that details what maine needs to do/have happen to get in...

Gusforhobey
03-10-2011, 11:21 PM
they can get in without winning it... nu knocking off bu in the quarters will go a long way toward that endeavor... that said, they need help... there's another thread that details what maine needs to do/have happen to get in...
thanks

gscott13
03-10-2011, 11:22 PM
Dartmouth - They can get as high as #7 overall if they win the ECAC and all the teams in the middle of the pack all lose, get food poisoning or some other calamity befalls them. Lose this weekend to Harvard and the season is over. If they advance past this weekend, they need to win one TUC game in AC. Their TUC record is such that they cannot afford two losses. Winning a game puts them in 13th, losing both puts them at 20th. They are also hurt by the fact that Cornell and Quinnipiac play each other in the QF. They would love to be rid of both teams from TUC, but are likely to lose only one. This weekend will determine nothing for Dartmouth; their fate will be determined in AC. If they reach the 3rd place game and tie, it'll be too close to call.
I will bet that they win one of the two games and get an invite as the top #4 seed.


Western Michigan - Can get as high as a #3 seed by winning this weekend and winning at least one at the CCHA Frozen Four. Because their QF foe is a TUC, they have a little more leeway than Dartmouth. If they sweep this weekend they can afford to lose both TUC games in Detroit, as long as there are no upsets elsewhere. As the #4 seed in the CCHA they slim favorites over #5 Ferris State. They are also underdogs at the Joe. There are always upsets somewhere.
I would guess the Broncos miss the NCAA tournament.

Ferris State - The easiest way in for all these teams is to win the autobid, but these select few can secure at-large bids. Ferris State needs to sweep Western and win one of two TUC games at the Joe. Then they need help. Maine, BU, Minnesota, SCSU and CC all have to lose in the QF (or play-in games of the Final Five). Dartmouth losing out would also help.
The Bulldogs' either need the autobid or be happy playing the spoiler.

Alaska - Even more dire are the Nanooks chances. They need to sweep Miami then win one of the two TUC games in Detroit. They also need Maine, BU, Minnesota, SCSU, CC and Dartmouth to lose this weekend. They also need the Ferris/Western winner to lose both games in Detroit. That last part can happen if the winner of the 4/5 match in the CCHA loses to Notre Dame and then lose to Fairbanks.
My odds of winning the lottery are better. The Nooks will make this all irrelevant by losing this weekend.

Minnesota - If all higher seeds win, they somehow make the field. To be safe, they need to sweep this weekend and win their play-in game. That would give them a 3-1 record vs TUC. Lose the play-in game and it's really too close to call. Lose to UAA this weekend and it's all very easy.
The Gophers take advantage of the expanded TUC rules and get into the field as #15 overall, the last team in.

St Cloud State - Need to advance to at least the WCHA SF on Friday. Need everyone ahead of them to lose early. Not going to happen.

Colorado College - Needs to at least win the play-in game and have Minnesota, Western or Dartmouth lose this weekend. Not a rigorous path, but it's March and I don't trust the Tigers. No invite.

Wisconsin - The NCAA would so love the Badger$ to get into the field. They better get the autobid because the road is long and winding. It starts in the Springs as Wisconsin has to go on the road and sweep CC, then win the play-in game and the WCHA SF. They also need the usual suspects to lose this weekend.

Boston University - They have been flirting with the NCAA all year; sometimes the last team in, sometimes the first team out. They're crushed by the fact their QF opponent is Northeastern and not TUC Maine. Two wins this weekend will do very little for the Terriers. They need a win in the Hockey East SF against a TUC to move any higher and earn an invite. If you bet against Jack Parker at Boston Garden you'd have gone broke years ago. Fortunately, I don't bet. :)

That leaves Maine. They need to win at least two of three at the Mack and either have Western Michigan, Minnesota or Dartmouth crap out. A win in Boston Garden would be nice. I think Western craps out. Maine gets an invite. Yes, I'm a tremendous homer, but I also think it will happen.

And here's the script



20110311 Me 2 Mr 1 NC
20110311 NE 0 BU 1 NC
20110311 Vt 0 NH 1 NC
20110311 MA 0 BC 1 NC
20110312 Me 2 Mr 1 NC
20110312 Me 0 Mr 1 NC
20110312 NE 0 BU 1 NC
20110312 NE 2 BU 1 NC
20110312 Vt 0 NH 1 NC
20110312 MA 0 BC 1 NC
20110318 Me 0 BC 1 nc
20110318 NH 2 BU 1 nc
20110319 NH 0 BC 1 nc
20110311 MT 0 ND 1 NC
20110311 Mk 0 DU 1 NC
20110311 BS 0 NO 1 NC
20110311 SC 0 MD 1 NC
20110311 AA 0 Mn 1 NC
20110311 Wi 0 CC 1 NC
20110312 MT 0 ND 1 NC
20110312 Mk 0 DU 1 NC
20110312 BS 0 NO 1 NC
20110312 SC 0 MD 1 NC
20110312 AA 0 Mn 1 NC
20110312 AA 2 Mn 1 NC
20110312 Wi 0 CC 1 NC
20110312 Wi 2 CC 1 NC
20110317 CC 0 NO 1 nc
20110317 Mn 2 MD 1 nc
20110318 NO 0 DU 1 nc
20110318 Mn 0 ND 1 nc
20110319 DU 0 ND 1 nc
20110311 SH 0 AF 1 NC
20110311 Ca 0 HC 1 NC
20110311 AI 0 RT 1 NC
20110311 Mh 0 Ct 1 nc
20110312 SH 0 AF 1 NC
20110312 Ca 0 HC 1 NC
20110312 AI 0 RT 1 NC
20110312 Mh 0 Ct 1 nc
20110318 Ct 0 AF 1 nc
20110318 HC 0 RT 1 nc
20110319 AF 0 RT 1 nc
20110311 Cg 0 Un 1 NC
20110311 Qn 0 Cr 1 NC
20110311 SL 0 Ya 1 NC
20110311 Ha 0 Da 1 NC
20110312 Cg 0 Un 1 NC
20110312 Qn 0 Cr 1 NC
20110312 Qn 2 Cr 1 NC
20110312 SL 0 Ya 1 NC
20110312 Ha 0 Da 1 NC
20110318 Da 0 Ya 1 nc
20110318 Cr 0 Un 1 nc
20110319 Cr 0 Da 1 nc
20110319 Ya 0 Un 1 nc
20110311 BG 0 Mi 1 NC
20110311 LS 0 Nt 1 NC
20110311 Ak 0 Mm 1 NC
20110311 FS 2 WM 1 NC
20110312 BG 0 Mi 1 NC
20110312 LS 0 Nt 1 NC
20110312 Ak 0 Mm 1 NC
20110312 FS 0 WM 1 NC
20110312 FS 0 WM 1 NC
20110318 WM 0 Mi 1 nc
20110318 Mm 0 Nt 1 nc
20110319 WM 0 Mm 1 nc
20110319 Nt 0 Mi 1 nc

The final pairwise:



1 Yale (EC) 28 0.5805
2 Boston Coll (HE)27 0.5828
3 North Dak (WC) 26 0.5880
4 Michigan (CC) 25 0.5640
5 Union (EC) 23 0.5705
6 Miami (CC) 22 0.5554
7 Denver U (WC) 21 0.5556
8 NE-Omaha (WC) 21 0.5458
9 Notre Dame (CC) 19 0.5533
10 MinnDuluth (WC) 19 0.5489
11 Merrimack (HE) 19 0.5409
12 New Hamp (HE) 17 0.5465
13 Dartmouth (EC) 15 0.5352
14 Maine (HE) 14 0.5319
15 Minnesota (WC) 14 0.5306
---
16 RPI (EC) 13 0.5226


The bracketology is tough. There can be an all WCHA first-round game because the league gets 5 teams into the tournament. However, the NCAA has avoided this in the past and I have to assume they will again.



Bridgeport Manchester St Louis Green Bay
Yale Boston Coll Michigan North Dakota
UNO Denver Miami Union
Notre Dame UNH Merrimack MinnDuluth
AHA Champ Dartmouth Minnesota Maine

And if this is even close, I'm heading to Vegas

here it is

Fishman'81
03-11-2011, 12:56 AM
Good stuff,Priceless,and props to gscott for putting it here.

Thanks for taking the time to run the scenarios;now I know who to root against (besides Minnesota,of course,who I root against every time...)

It's gonna make for a much more directed weekend of staring at multiple games on the tube than it would have been otherwise.

Gusforhobey
03-11-2011, 09:06 AM
is tonight's game going to be put online? I know b2tv has in the past.

gscott13
03-11-2011, 09:08 AM
is tonight's game going to be put online? I know b2tv has in the past.

http://hockeyeastonline.tv/

pay to watch...

Fishman'81
03-11-2011, 09:14 AM
How does the video quality compare to the WABI streams of a couple of years back?Is it possible to buy the game a couple of hours after it starts,and watch it from the beginning (or watch it again,days later?)

gscott13
03-11-2011, 11:25 AM
How does the video quality compare to the WABI streams of a couple of years back?Is it possible to buy the game a couple of hours after it starts,and watch it from the beginning (or watch it again,days later?)

no idea... i've never paid to broadcast.... might want to ask in the NU-BU thread as they broadcast their game last night...

Erix_The_Red
03-11-2011, 01:54 PM
no idea... i've never paid to broadcast.... might want to ask in the NU-BU thread as they broadcast their game last night...

And then report back your findings

Gusforhobey
03-11-2011, 05:02 PM
no banwell tonight? was that expected?

walrus
03-11-2011, 05:06 PM
no banwell tonight? was that expected?

Where'd you hear that? Who's in for him?

Gusforhobey
03-11-2011, 05:10 PM
Where'd you hear that? Who's in for him?
on the live box score on hockeyeast he's not listed. I'm not sure if thats official or not? I guess nemec would be his replacement

Ma#1ne Hky
03-11-2011, 09:11 PM
Bluntly said by Mahoney and all so true: Soft goals and Short-Handed goals have killed Maine all season long.... 2 bad.

BoSox3066
03-11-2011, 09:55 PM
Bluntly said by Mahoney and all so true: Soft goals and Short-Handed goals have killed Maine all season long.... 2 bad.

That's been the case for 5 years. Was the case tonight. Starting to wonder why I continue to allow it to surprise me. Merrimack had no business scoring 3 of the 5. Only one was truly "soft" but the Nemec mistake on the goal that made it 2-2 was one of the oddest, yet stupidest, plays I've ever seen.

KnowItAll
03-11-2011, 10:09 PM
That's been the case for 5 years. Was the case tonight. Starting to wonder why I continue to allow it to surprise me. Merrimack had no business scoring 3 of the 5. Only one was truly "soft" but the Nemec mistake on the goal that made it 2-2 was one of the oddest, yet stupidest, plays I've ever seen.

you didn't think that when Cornell went down to his knees trying to keep a flying puck in at the blue line was one of the stupidest? The second he went down and I saw DaCosta closing in, and heading to the neutral zone, I "knew" it was a goal.

and gosh, gee whizz, I sure am glad that O'Connor did not play, I would have hated to see any maine defensemen playing rough and hitting anyone. silly bully merrimack warriors.

I like how Timmy was trying something new... a bazillion attempted touch passes and actual team play... but NOW is not the time to start something new... way too many blind touch passes and way too many turnovers all over the ice.

I really think that it is just plain "the end of an era"

Say thanks tomorrow to Nyquist, it has been a pleasure watching him

the best part of MY night was seeing BobF's face when he saw ME in a Maine jersey, NOT a Merrimack jersey. heh heh heh.

carltonbarrett
03-11-2011, 10:11 PM
If Nyquist bolts after this year it's safe to say Maine is going to be in deep doo doo next year...

mickeyj65
03-11-2011, 10:20 PM
Disappointed about tonight, but I've got a good feeling about tomorrow night. See you guys there.

Fishman'81
03-11-2011, 11:37 PM
If Nyquist bolts after this year it's safe to say Maine is going to be in deep doo doo next year...

The deep doo-doo is about four years old,FYI,and getting pretty stinky...(Which is not to imply that Gus hasn't been a real bright spot during a dark era.He's given Maine three exceptional years,and he doesn't owe the program a dam thing.)

Furthermore,I'd have to say that he's at least in the top-10 overall offensive players who I can ever remember wearing a Bears sweater,and he seems to be a real quality guy off the ice.

Best to him no matter what he ends up doing next year.