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troyboy
02-14-2011, 10:11 PM
And what exactly is that affecting? RPI's inability to score ont he powerplay? Put forth a wholly-lame effort against the 12th place team in the EZAC? Please help clarify. Bedwetter

troyboy
02-14-2011, 10:13 PM
I get up every morning and go to work and put in 8 or more hours where I cannot access this wonderful board. You can install a program called panic button your boss will never catch you

Beman
02-15-2011, 12:15 AM
Colgate game was a train wreck. The engineers lost to a team that may be finding themselves while they looked to Cornell.

Before the Cornell game SA told Sinkoff that the way they were going to beat Cornell was with speed. They had to get the puck behind them (Cornell D) and then use their speed to create offense. So what did the players do? They carried the puck through the neutral zone. The forwards got stripped and stood up. They were forced to the outside where they were out muscled. It seemed the only time they crossed the red line and dumped it was when they were looking for a change.

Seth started a fight (with the refs) he can't win. The little holds, and baby hooks that Cornell uses in the neutal zone, won't get called when they play RPI.

FlagDUDE08
02-15-2011, 06:13 AM
Now that there is a temporary lull in the officiating butthurt...

One thing I noticed this past weekend is that our power play went back to a 4-1 setup. During most of January, it looked like we just rolled out the next line (3-2) and played as per our normal, and it seemed successful. Granted we didn't give up any shorties, so I'm not speaking from a standpoint of being able to defend. Some of our defensemen really have a good shot and should get an opportunity to take it more often, like Bo Dolan or Pat Koudys. Maybe have Jeff Foss in there as well; Nick Bailen shouldn't be the only D-man out there. I wonder if Coach Graham will try going back to the 3-2 on the power play in practice and see if we're a bit more successful when we get to next weekend.

Red Cloud
02-15-2011, 06:13 AM
I was so invigorated by the fact that all ECAC officials must try to screw RPI out of points

Fact? :rolleyes:

engineerhockeyfan
02-15-2011, 06:25 AM
We have been complaining about the referees since I started following RPI hockey. And I have been right there with you. And up until this year, I too thought that there was some kind of bias. However, after the Union game when the referees handed us an overtime win putting Union down two men. I kind of backed off the bias thing. Also, the referees handed us a five minute major at the end of th regulation on Saturday. We could do nothing with that.
True, Stewart doesn't seem to like the Engineers in general and Appert in particular. But I don't think that there is a bias against us on the ice. Just poor officiating in every game in the ECAC.
We were awful on the PP this weekend. We had our chances and we could not convert. Three goals in two games will not beat many teams.
I think that our biggest problem this weekend was the absence of Mike Bergin. He evidently means a whole lot more to this team than I have given him credit for.
Come back to us Mike, we need you.

AspyDad
02-15-2011, 06:53 AM
Now that there is a temporary lull in the officiating butthurt...

One thing I noticed this past weekend is that our power play went back to a 4-1 setup. During most of January, it looked like we just rolled out the next line (3-2) and played as per our normal, and it seemed successful. Granted we didn't give up any shorties, so I'm not speaking from a standpoint of being able to defend. Some of our defensemen really have a good shot and should get an opportunity to take it more often, like Bo Dolan or Pat Koudys. Maybe have Jeff Foss in there as well; Nick Bailen shouldn't be the only D-man out there. I wonder if Coach Graham will try going back to the 3-2 on the power play in practice and see if we're a bit more successful when we get to next weekend.

I hope to see Pat Koudys on the PP more. It is just not the shot that matters but crisp passing that gets the opposing team scrambling. Pat is a very good passer.

FlagDUDE08
02-15-2011, 07:01 AM
I hope to see Pat Koudys on the PP more. It is just not the shot that matters but crisp passing that gets the opposing team scrambling. Pat is a very good passer.

You're absolutely correct about moving the puck side to side. There were a number of times where there were golden opportunities from this motion, and we just couldn't get the puck on the tape. Puck luck? Perhaps. However, when you play against tight box defenses that aren't allowing anything inside, you don't have too much of a choice but to chuck it from the cheap seats. During the Colgate game, there were a number of blocked shots on our PP, and maybe they were expecting us to chuck it from the cheap seats, and that's where we need the quick perimeter movement to get a chance inside.

Ralph Baer
02-15-2011, 07:23 AM
I hope to see Pat Koudys on the PP more. It is just not the shot that matters but crisp passing that gets the opposing team scrambling. Pat is a very good passer.

I suspect that we will see more of him in that role in future years. He did that quite well last year in Burligton especially when Luke Juha was out.

realet
02-15-2011, 07:35 AM
Happy Tuesday. Time for another exciting episode of Engineer Bracketology (http://www.withoutapeer.com/2011/02/engineer-bracketology-week-6.html) at WaP. This week, we try to illustrate exactly why losing to a 4-22-2 team is better than losing to an 11-10-3 team. Doesn't make sense, does it? Well, it does when it comes to Bracketology.

Jasma
02-15-2011, 08:11 AM
I was so invigorated by the fact that all ECAC officials must try to screw RPI out of points I ran some numbers about RPI's record over the past three years and here are the results. Note that Point % = % of points earned divided by number of games*2. This is so that ties factor in the equation.

Referee - W - L - T - Total Games - Win% - Point %
Baker - 3 - 7 - 0 - 10 - 30% - 30%
Barnard - 0 - 0 - 1 - 1 - 0% - 50%
Carusone - 4 - 4 - 3 - 11 - 36% - 50%
Dell - 6 - 3 - 1 - 10 - 60% - 65%
Dumas - 2 - 2 - 0 - 4 - 50% - 50%
Durfee - 2 - 0 - 0 - 2 100% - 100%
Ernst - 4 - 1 - 1 - 6 - 66% - 75%
Feola - 5 - 8 - 1 - 14 - 35% - 39%
Gates - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 100% 100%
Gilbert - 0 - 1 - 0 - 1 0% - 0%
Graber - 1 - 1 - 1 - 3 - 33% - 50%
Hicks - 5 - 4 - 2 - 11 - 45% - 54%
Kotyra - 6 - 7 - 1 - 14 - 42% - 46%
Leonard - 1 - 1 - 1 - 3 - 33% - 50%
Litterio - 3 - 3 - 1 - 7 - 42% - 50%
McDonald - 6 - 6 - 1 - 13 - 46% - 50%
Millea - 0 - 3 - 0 - 3 0% - 0%
D. Murphy - 1 - 2 - 0 - 3 - 33% - 33%
J. Murphy - 6 - 7 - 1 - 14 - 42% - 46%
O'Brien - 6 - 5 - 2 - 13 - 46% - 53%
Riegert - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 100% - 100%
Ritchie - 4 - 5 - 0 - 9 - 44% - 44%
Roy - 1 - 1 - 0 - 2 - 50% - 50%
Shufelt - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 100% - 100%
St. Lawrence - 4 - 5 - 0 - 9 - 44% - 44%
Torgerson - 0 - 2 - 0 - 2 0% - 0%
Wahl - 6 - 3 - 0 - 9 - 66% - 66%
Whittemore - 3 - 3 - 1 - 7 - 42% - 50%
Zelasko - 2 - 2 - 0 - 4 - 50% - 50%

Source: collegehockeystats.net schedule/results and the officials listed in each game.

This discussion on officials has been a little over the top from the beginning, but this leaves me speechless.

FlagDUDE08
02-15-2011, 08:26 AM
There were 111 posts in this thread yesterday. :eek: Doesn't quite top the posts we were seeing when Pirri and D'Amigo bolted, but still... I'm shocked.

Ralph Baer
02-15-2011, 09:00 AM
There were 111 posts in this thread yesterday. :eek: Doesn't quite top the posts we were seeing when Pirri and D'Amigo bolted, but still... I'm shocked.

Just about time top think up a new thread title. :)

FlagDUDE08
02-15-2011, 09:16 AM
Just about time top think up a new thread title. :)

We already wasted part 2's title on ref butthurt... perhaps it's time for the gambling topics?

Red Cloud
02-15-2011, 10:16 AM
We already wasted part 2's title on ref butthurt...

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

ServinisScores
02-15-2011, 12:01 PM
Appert re: Colgate game from the Record

“I thought Colgate earned a win,” Appert said after emerging from a somber RPI locker room. “I don’t have any issues with how we played, except for the second (period), when they were good and we got a couple of penalties that put us down.”

So you can stop belittling the effort put forth now.

From Jason Klump's article - "The kicker was that, as he (Paul Stewart) turned back from heading down the stairs, he shouted that I was "being like Appert" and "using the refs as a crutch for why they lost."

That's not a bias SS??? Do you think that is a breach of professional conduct?

As for the PP, I don't blame the refs (although I would like too) I would move Tyler off the point, I don't like forwards on the point on PP. IMO he is more of a grinder not a tape to tape guy.

Are you there SS? I can't hear you. Calling SS. Guess not.

thanks for the responses. I see you can't put away the childish shtick altogether, but the progress is good.

Re; Colgate effort, I don't agree 100% w/ appert's assertion, but will take it that he's typically a straight shooter.
re: Stewart's comments - 'being like Appert' is very unprofessional, but I can't make a connection of bias. He should be reprimanded for such commentary in public.
re: powerplay - this is where they miss D'amigo, Pirri, the players left aren't creative playmakers, more executors. I was hoping they would progress over the year, but they seem stuck. I think forwards on PP is a gimmick, unless you have John Carter there. I would put Bailen out for the full 2 minutes every PP.

Thanks for the hockey talk.

FlagDUDE08
02-15-2011, 12:09 PM
thanks for the responses. I see you can't put away the childish shtick altogether, but the progress is good.

Re; Colgate effort, I don't agree 100% w/ appert's assertion, but will take it that he's typically a straight shooter.
re: Stewart's comments - 'being like Appert' is very unprofessional, but I can't make a connection of bias. He should be reprimanded for such commentary in public.
re: powerplay - this is where they miss D'amigo, Pirri, the players left aren't creative playmakers, more executors. I was hoping they would progress over the year, but they seem stuck. I think forwards on PP is a gimmick, unless you have John Carter there. I would put Bailen out for the full 2 minutes every PP.

Thanks for the hockey talk.

I don't like the whole extra forwards on the PP either, especially if all you're going to do is snipe. You might as well just roll out another line and do what you're used to on offense; make it easier. In the 2009-10 season against BU, we tried 5 forwards on the PP, and it resulted in 2 shorties with no PPGs.

DrDemento
02-15-2011, 12:24 PM
Happy Tuesday. Time for another exciting episode of Engineer Bracketology (http://www.withoutapeer.com/2011/02/engineer-bracketology-week-6.html) at WaP. This week, we try to illustrate exactly why losing to a 4-22-2 team is better than losing to an 11-10-3 team. Doesn't make sense, does it? Well, it does when it comes to Bracketology.

I got the picture now-thanks. We sure do not make things easy on ourselves.

DrDemento
02-15-2011, 12:26 PM
re: powerplay - this is where they miss D'amigo, Pirri, the players left aren't creative playmakers, more executors. I was hoping they would progress over the year, but they seem stuck. I think forwards on PP is a gimmick, unless you have John Carter there. I would put Bailen out for the full 2 minutes every PP.


Agree-but I put a healthy Bergin out with him.;)

AspyDad
02-15-2011, 01:12 PM
I would put Bailen out for the full 2 minutes every PP.

Bailen is always out for the entire PP.