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DrDemento
02-06-2011, 04:18 PM
GR-Baker rink is a quaint old place. Line changes can be like a chinese fire drill and the officials could call too many men on the ice almost any time they wish. There were at least 2 instances where we felt they missed that call-once on each team. Overall, however, I was pleasantly surprised at Dell and company. Now if only the linesmen can figure out how to drop the puck without throwing guys out of the face off circle.

Ralph Baer
02-06-2011, 04:23 PM
It was amazing how much trouble they had with the ice at the end of the game. I've never seen the red line physically get dug up through the ice and stick out as a tripping hazard. The first attempted fix involved trying to pack snow into the area and freeze it with the fire extinguisher. This lasted until the first line change when all the snow came right back loose and re-exposed the red line.

The second fix involved pouring water on the packed snow and then freezing that, and ended up holding til the end of the game.

The zamboni driver also missed a 2-3 inch patch of ice along the boards each time he resurfaced, which didn't help things much. The benches are also directly adjacent to each other at Baker with no space between (the timekeeper is on the far side with the penalty boxes) so there was a ton of traffic at center ice beating up the ice there. It caused issues with line changes several times as there physically wasn't enough room for both teams' players to get to the bench due to the proximity of the two teams.

Kurt Stutt on WRPI seemd quite "amused" with the red line actually getting cut up. I had not realized that they used decals for the lines. I had thought that they painted the concrete.

Ralph Baer
02-06-2011, 04:25 PM
GR-Baker rink is a quaint old place. That sounds like a real estate agent's description of a slum. ;)

GRussinko
02-06-2011, 04:40 PM
Kurt Stutt on WRPI seemd quite "amused" with the red line actually getting cut up. I had not realized that they used decals for the lines. I had thought that they painted the concrete.

From what I can recall, the more typical approach is to lay down a thin layer of ice on the concrete, then lay down the white base with a mix of white paint and water, then paint the lines on that. After all the lines are painted then they would lay down the heavier top layer of ice (about an inch thick I think).

This allows them to reconfigure the ice and lines (removing all logos for example, or putting down a solid white sheet without lines for figure skating competitions) without having to take paint off the concrete. Just melt it down and wash the paint out with the water.

DrDemento
02-06-2011, 04:59 PM
From what I can recall, the more typical approach is to lay down a thin layer of ice on the concrete, then lay down the white base with a mix of white paint and water, then paint the lines on that. After all the lines are painted then they would lay down the heavier top layer of ice (about an inch thick I think).

This allows them to reconfigure the ice and lines (removing all logos for example, or putting down a solid white sheet without lines for figure skating competitions) without having to take paint off the concrete. Just melt it down and wash the paint out with the water.

That's the way it has been described when I have seen it done on TV. The delay last night did not hurt us but you never know what that kind of delay can do to your momentum.

DrDemento
02-06-2011, 05:01 PM
That sounds like a real estate agent's description of a slum. ;)

It is just an incredible place to watch a game-you are right on the ice and there really are no bad seats. It is loud and freezing cold-as hockey should be seen. My big complaint is the sound system. In all the years of watching games there (35 I think) I have never been able to make out what the announcer has said. You would think a school with the endowment the size of theirs, they could have a better sound system.:)

Ralph Baer
02-07-2011, 02:53 AM
CP has slowly been creeping up in the Senior Class award http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/hockey_2010-11/. He is now up to 11%.

engineerhockeyfan
02-07-2011, 06:48 AM
Has there been any indication of York's availability for this weekends games?

DrDemento
02-07-2011, 06:51 AM
CP has slowly been creeping up in the Senior Class award http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/hockey_2010-11/. He is now up to 11%.

What I cannot understand is how he is not moving up in the Hobey Baker voting? he has been stuck at 19% forever-even with all of us on here urging the vote for him. Splitting our vote between 2 candidates is just not wise. I realize the vote counts diddley squat-but psychologically it would be nice to see him at the top. He certainly deserves it.

DrDemento
02-07-2011, 06:56 AM
Has there been any indication of York's availability for this weekends games?

If he is now reported as having a concussion-why were there reports after the game that he was on crutches and favoring a leg? That is an odd presentation for a head injury. If it was a concussion-they are among the most nebulous of medical problems to evaluate and predict. As doctors we throw the term around rather loosely-and we now have all sorts of criteria and categories-but honestly-we really do not have a good handle on what they are, how and why they occur, and how they clear up. We can only hope this was just a minor blip for Alan and he can get back quickly into having what could amount to an All American year.

Waite21
02-07-2011, 07:06 AM
It is just an incredible place to watch a game-you are right on the ice and there really are no bad seats. It is loud and freezing cold-as hockey should be seen. My big complaint is the sound system. In all the years of watching games there (35 I think) I have never been able to make out what the announcer has said. You would think a school with the endowment the size of theirs, they could have a better sound system.:)

Dr. D, it was nice to meet you, as well as EHF, Turk, and GRussinko at the game on Saturday.

I agree that the sound system could stand improvement, although I was able to hear the announcer well enough to understand that he stated Polacek's goal, Fedun's goal, and Rabbani's second goal were all unassisted. Apparently they don't have real good communications between the official scorer and the PA announcer, either, because the box score here on USCHO shows that there were two assists credited on all three of those goals.

Of course, the box score also shows that the building in which we watched that game is named AMSOIL Arena. :eek:

Maybe Princeton sold the naming rights to get more money to improve the sound system. :D

FlagDUDE08
02-07-2011, 07:50 AM
Dr. D, it was nice to meet you, as well as EHF, Turk, and GRussinko at the game on Saturday.

I agree that the sound system could stand improvement, although I was able to hear the announcer well enough to understand that he stated Polacek's goal, Fedun's goal, and Rabbani's second goal were all unassisted. Apparently they don't have real good communications between the official scorer and the PA announcer, either, because the box score here on USCHO shows that there were two assists credited on all three of those goals.

Of course, the box score also shows that the building in which we watched that game is named AMSOIL Arena. :eek:

Maybe Princeton sold the naming rights to get more money to improve the sound system. :D

Kurt noted, while he was picking the offensive and defensive Engineer of the Game, that he was handed a piece of paper stating the assists that were added to practically every goal.

redhead18
02-07-2011, 08:08 AM
Hockey's Future, January College Prospects Notebook writeup on Allen York:

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/12773/college_prospects_notebook_january/


Another goaltender that is backstopping his team up the league standings and polls is RPI junior Allen York (CBJ). The Engineers currently sit in fourth place in the ECAC, and like Merrimack, have a vastly improved and stingy defense as well, thanks in part to the stellar goaltending of York. RPI sports the nation's third-best defense that is allowing an average of 2.04 goals per game.

The Wetaskiwin, AB native has played in 25 games to date, posting a record of 16-6-3 that includes two shutouts. York's 1.86 goals against average currently ranks third in the nation, while his .932 save percentage ranks seventh. His 16 wins, goals against average, save percentage and minutes played (1512:33) leads all NHL-drafted goaltenders.

York's best month thus far was January, where he went 6-2. His most brilliant weekend performance of the season took place on January 28/29th. During the weekend, York posted a 36-save, 3-0 shutout win over Brown and followed it up with a 38-save, 5-2 win over then-top-ranked Yale the following night. The effort also earned York his third ECAC Goaltender of the Week honor as well.

His ability to consistently step up at crucial times and giving his team a chance to win every night have been two of the most notable aspects of York's game this season. And like Cannata, York has also shown that he can be poised and calm under pressure as well.

Ralph Baer
02-07-2011, 08:41 AM
If he is now reported as having a concussion-why were there reports after the game that he was on crutches and favoring a leg? That is an odd presentation for a head injury. If it was a concussion-they are among the most nebulous of medical problems to evaluate and predicit. As doctors we throw the term around rather loosely-and we now have all sorts of criteria and categories-but honestly-we really do not have a good handle on what they are, how and why they occur, and how they clear up. We can only hope this was just a minor blip for Alan and he can get back quickly into having what could amount to an All American year.

I was wondering about the crutches and concussion. It seemed quite odd to me too. :)

Ralph Baer
02-07-2011, 08:44 AM
What I cannot understand is how he is not moving up in the Hobey Baker voting? he has been stuck at 19% forever-even with all of us on here urging the vote for him. Splitting our vote between 2 candidates is just not wise. I realize the vote counts diddley squat-but psychologically it would be nice to see him at the top. He certainly deserves it.

I assume that most of the votes are from people who have voted many many times at the same time, not from single votes. Basically this is a popularity contest because it counts 1% of the total. OTOH, the voting for CP for the Senior Class Award counts for 1/3 of the total and thus is significant and IMHO worth the effort.

FlagDUDE08
02-07-2011, 09:15 AM
I was wondering about the crutches and concussion. It seemed quite odd to me too. :)

I would assume it is because he had to have some way to remain balanced.

FlagDUDE08
02-07-2011, 10:01 AM
INCH power rankings are out, and it looks like RPI and Union traded spots. It's not surprising given we had 3 points and they had 4. It looks like a bunch of rank pods around the rankings.

I believe the PWR shows us at 7th, although we have now lost a comparison to WMU and Union. Cornell is now a TUC (probably where the Union loss came from), but RIT is also now a TUC, which makes up for Niagara dropping out. It's much more imperative for the Capital District to get an 8-point weekend (or at least 4 from Cornell, Union/Colgate not all so much), and try to drop Cornell off the TUC cliff.

RKarger
02-07-2011, 10:11 AM
I would assume it is because he had to have some way to remain balanced.

The player I saw on cructches getting on the bus wasn't York, I think, which is my mistake. He definitely was favoring a leg on the ice, which is why I assumed the player in the dark on crutches was him, but it was much more likely Bergin. Sorry for misinformation. :( At Princeton York was walking around and looking okay, and Bergin was on crutches and this time I am 100% sure who was who. Again, sorry for the incorrect post before.

DrDemento
02-07-2011, 10:19 AM
The player I saw on cructches getting on the bus wasn't York, I think, which is my mistake. He definitely was favoring a leg on the ice, which is why I assumed the player in the dark on crutches was him, but it was much more likely Bergin. Sorry for misinformation. :( At Princeton York was walking around and looking okay, and Bergin was on crutches and this time I am 100% sure who was who. Again, sorry for the incorrect post before.

Thanks for the update-I too saw Bergin at Princeton and he was indeed the one with the injury to his leg. He looks like he is raring to get back and most likely will be in the line up next weekend.

DrDemento
02-07-2011, 10:24 AM
We are 3-0-1 in the last 4 games an have basically given up close to or above 40 shots in each of these games. Even if most of the shots are coming from out at the point-this may be of some concern(Princeton's 2nd goal was a clean blast from the point). We do seem to be giving up a rather high number of shots especially later on in the games. Perhaps this may even be part of our strategy in games that we take the lead?