Alaska Airlines Governors Cup UA vs. UAA Feb 25th & Feb 26th

[Alaska Hockey]

Re: Alaska Airlines Governors Cup UA vs. UAA Feb 25th & Feb 26th

I'm at work and therefore too lazy to look it up, who do y'all play this weekend and where?

The Seawolves are at home playing a team that was smart enough to depart the CCHA.

[Squarebanks]

The Seawolves are at home playing a team that was smart enough to depart the CCHA.

At least you aren't playing in Omaha.

[Alaska Hockey]

Re: Alaska Airlines Governors Cup UA vs. UAA Feb 25th & Feb 26th

At least you aren't playing in Omaha.

Or Ferris State.

[Suze]

Re: Alaska Airlines Governors Cup UA vs. UAA Feb 25th & Feb 26th

Thanks to our recent troubles, we are now in a 3-way tie for 6th. If we lay an egg against Sparty this weekend we are going to be in a world of hurt.

I'm at work and therefore too lazy to look it up, who do y'all play this weekend and where?

Unfortunately, both the Nanooks and the Seawolves are near other teams in the standings who have 2 games in hand. Ouch.

[Alaska Hockey]

Re: Alaska Airlines Governors Cup UA vs. UAA Feb 25th & Feb 26th

I always knew you could see Russia from the Sully.

Anchorage is not as blessed as _airbanks with their 2 new-fangled “Tourist Traps “with in shooting distance from the Carlson. I wonder which one get’s more inattention?
The spot where Sarah gave her “I quit speech”,
Or Joe Miller’s (I couldn’t beat a write-in) campaign headquarters for the U. S. senate race?
mmf you may have to camphene this for squarebanks as he’s "working".

[mmf]

Re: Alaska Airlines Governors Cup UA vs. UAA Feb 25th & Feb 26th

Anchorage is not as blessed as _airbanks with their 2 new-fangled “Tourist Traps “with in shooting distance from the Carlson. I wonder which one get’s more inattention?
The spot where Sarah gave her “I quit speech”,
Or Joe Miller’s (I couldn’t beat a write-in) campaign headquarters for the U. S. senate race?
mmf you may have to camphene this for squarebanks as he’s "working".

Hold on a minute...I need to check my Alaska Hockey dictionary.

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[Squarebanks]

Unfortunately, both the Nanooks and the Seawolves are near other teams in the standings who have 2 games in hand. Ouch.

My point exactly. Although doesn't UAA have another WCHA series after the GC?

[Squarebanks]

I have no idea what any of that means, but well played good sir.

Anchorage is not as blessed as _airbanks with their 2 new-fangled “Tourist Traps “with in shooting distance from the Carlson. I wonder which one get’s more inattention?
The spot where Sarah gave her “I quit speech”,
Or Joe Miller’s (I couldn’t beat a write-in) campaign headquarters for the U. S. senate race?
mmf you may have to camphene this for squarebanks as he’s "working".

[Suze]

Re: Alaska Airlines Governors Cup UA vs. UAA Feb 25th & Feb 26th

My point exactly. Although doesn't UAA have another WCHA series after the GC?

Just one, against Minnesota State. And I'm still trying to figure out the new way of earning points in the CCHA. A win is 3 pts, correct? A tie is how many? And a shoot out point how many more?

[Squarebanks]

Just one, against Minnesota State. And I'm still trying to figure out the new way of earning points in the CCHA. A win is 3 pts, correct? A tie is how many? And a shoot out point how many more?

Regular W is 3 points. A tie with a shootout W is 2 points, and a tie with a shootout L is 1. I'm not a fan of it, even though the Nooks have benefited from those extra shootout points over the last few years.

Also, the NCAA doesn't recognize shootout wins or losses, so those games just show up as ties for NCAA calculations.

[Suze]

Re: Alaska Airlines Governors Cup UA vs. UAA Feb 25th & Feb 26th

Regular W is 3 points. A tie with a shootout W is 2 points, and a tie with a shootout L is 1. I'm not a fan of it, even though the Nooks have benefited from those extra shootout points over the last few years.

Also, the NCAA doesn't recognize shootout wins or losses, so those games just show up as ties for NCAA calculations.

Probablya dumb question, but if the NCAA doesn't recognize them, how does that affect the standings and the playoff spots, or doesn't it?

[Jimjamesak]

Re: Alaska Airlines Governors Cup UA vs. UAA Feb 25th & Feb 26th

Regular W is 3 points. A tie with a shootout W is 2 points, and a tie with a shootout L is 1. I'm not a fan of it, even though the Nooks have benefited from those extra shootout points over the last few years.

The slightly modified IIHF 3-2-1-0 point system (the IIHF uses 2 points for an OT win as well as Shootout win).

[Squarebanks]

Probablya dumb question, but if the NCAA doesn't recognize them, how does that affect the standings and the playoff spots, or doesn't it?

If you're referring to PWR, CCHA shootout wins or losses are only seen as ties when computing the PWR.

In terms of determining CCHA playoff position, it is simply a way for teams to get more points and avoid too much of a clog in the standings. Like last Friday against Lake State, we were tied after the end of OT. Each team had earned one point at that time, but we won the ensuing shootout to earn an extra point. We came away with two points and Lake State held onto their one point. Now, if we hadn't coughed up a two goal lead, we would have won outright and earned three points in the CCHA.

It took me a while to sort it out...and I still think it's a stupid system. I remember one game I attended last season at the Carlson, against Michigan State. We tied 1-1, and both teams literally played to a draw in almost every statistical category across the board. But Sparty got the extra point in the standings because they knocked an extra goal past Greenham in the shootout, despite not actually earning that extra point in regulation play, IMO. And it goes both ways, we've gotten plenty of those "unearned" points too. I just don't see it as a fair system. I hope the WCHA doesn't touch that idea with a 10 foot pole.

Hopefully that makes sense...

[Squarebanks]

The slightly modified IIHF 3-2-1-0 point system (the IIHF uses 2 points for an OT win as well as Shootout win).

Good point. Although an OT (non-shootout) win still counts for 3 in the CCHA.

[Suze]

Re: Alaska Airlines Governors Cup UA vs. UAA Feb 25th & Feb 26th

If you're referring to PWR, CCHA shootout wins or losses are only seen as ties when computing the PWR.

In terms of determining CCHA playoff position, it is simply a way for teams to get more points and avoid too much of a clog in the standings. Like last Friday against Lake State, we were tied after the end of OT. Each team had earned one point at that time, but we won the ensuing shootout to earn an extra point. We came away with two points and Lake State held onto their one point. Now, if we hadn't coughed up a two goal lead, we would have won outright and earned three points in the CCHA.

It took me a while to sort it out...and I still think it's a stupid system. I remember one game I attended last season at the Carlson, against Michigan State. We tied 1-1, and both teams literally played to a draw in almost every statistical category across the board. But Sparty got the extra point in the standings because they knocked an extra goal past Greenham in the shootout, despite not actually earning that extra point in regulation play, IMO. And it goes both ways, we've gotten plenty of those "unearned" points too. I just don't see it as a fair system. I hope the WCHA doesn't touch that idea with a 10 foot pole.

Hopefully that makes sense...

A lot more info than I wanted, but thanks for the reply, I do appreciate it.