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  • New Poll Predictions for 12/13

    I know Williams is set to play today but I'm assuming a win for the Ephs.

    So here goes with assuming a win by Williams today.

    1.Oswego
    2.St. Norbert
    3.Williams
    4.Bowdoin
    5.Norwich
    6.Gustavus Adolphus
    7.Adrian
    8.Geneseo
    9.Manhattanville
    10.Neumann
    11.MSOE
    12.Hamline
    13.Utica
    14.Amherst
    15.Castleton
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    Re: New Poll Predictions for 12/13

    Given Morrisville's (5-2-1 SUNYAC, 5-3-1 overall) win over Geneseo (5-2-1 SUNYAC, 8-3-2 overall), IMO, they deserve more respect than they are likely to receive.
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    • #3
      Re: New Poll Predictions for 12/13

      Utica deserves better than #13 "By Far" Losing to the #1 team Oswego 2-1(hitting the pipe on a breakaway in the third too) and 3-1 earlier this year. Of their four losses two to Oswego...one to Neumann and one to Elmira...all ranked teams. I think 10 or better would be appropriate.
      It all starts with the goaltending.

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      • #4
        Re: New Poll Predictions for 12/13

        Originally posted by sshablak View Post
        Utica deserves better than #13 "By Far" Losing to the #1 team Oswego 2-1(hitting the pipe on a breakaway in the third too) and 3-1 earlier this year. Of their four losses two to Oswego...one to Neumann and one to Elmira...all ranked teams. I think 10 or better would be appropriate.
        I do like Utica, and I am impressed with their SOS, unfortunately, that is also their down fall, they played well, but alas, not well enough when facing the teams that could get them into the top ten
        Last edited by norm1909; 12-12-2010, 12:03 PM.
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        • #5
          Re: New Poll Predictions for 12/13

          Originally posted by sshablak View Post
          Utica deserves better than #13 "By Far" Losing to the #1 team Oswego 2-1(hitting the pipe on a breakaway in the third too) and 3-1 earlier this year. Of their four losses two to Oswego...one to Neumann and one to Elmira...all ranked teams. I think 10 or better would be appropriate.
          Elmira is not ranked. Unfortunately what we all "think" and what the pollsters actually come out with doesn't oftentimes line up. Just the way it is. Remember, this is a poll prediction of how it shakes out and not how I would rank the teams.
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          • #6
            Re: New Poll Predictions for 12/13

            Code:
            Overall ____ This Week Results
            Team W L T W L T
            Oswego 12 1 0 1 1 0 W 2-1 VS # 14 UTICA L 2-5 @ HOBART
            St. Norbert 11 2 0 0 0 0 IDLE
            Norwich 5 2 1 1 1 0 W 8-1 @ ST.MIKES L 3-4 VS CASTLETON
            Williams 6 0 1 0 0 0 NICOLS
            Bowdoin 6 1 0 2 0 0 W 3-2 VS COLBY W 6-5 @ COLBY
            Gustavus Adolphus 9 3 1 2 0 0 W 3-2 @ FINLANDIA W 4-1 @ FINLANDIA
            Adrian 8 2 0 0 0 0 IDLE
            Milwaukee School of 9 1 0 1 1 0 L @ ST THOMAS W @ ST THOMAS
            Geneseo 8 3 2 0 0 0 IDLE
            Manhattanville 7 3 2 2 0 0 W 5-3 @ POTSDAM W 8-0 @ POTSDAM
            Neumann 7 3 1 1 0 0 W 5-3 VS BROCKPORT
            Hamline 6 3 1 0 0 0 IDLE
            Utica 9 4 0 1 1 0 L 1-2 @ #1 OSWEGO W 3-2 VS BUFF STATE
            Wisconsin-Eau Claire 8 5 0 1 1 0 W 4-2 VS UWSP L 2-3 VS UWSP
            Wisconsin-Superior 8 4 1 1 1 1 T 1-1 VS LAWRENCE L 1-3 VS CSS W 7-3 VS CSS
            Amherst 4 2 1 1 0 0 W 8-0 SALVE REGINA
            Plattsburgh 7 4 0 1 0 0 W 4-1 @ SKIDMORE
            UW-Stout 8 5 0 1 0 0 W 4-3 VS UWRF
            St. Thomas 8 5 0 1 1 0 W 2-1 @ #8 MSOE L 4-5 @ #8 MSOE
            Elmira 7 5 2 1 0 0 W 5-1 @ CORTLAND
            Salem state 6 3 0 0 2 0 L 4-5 VS S.MAINE L 4-5 @ WORCHESTER
            Buffalo State 6 5 2 0 2 0 L 0-6 @ HOBART L 2-3 @ #14 UTICA
            Castleton 6 2 0 2 0 0 W 5-4 VS SKIDMORE W 4-3 @ #3 NORWICH
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            • #7
              Re: New Poll Predictions for 12/13

              Code:
              1 Oswego 11-1-0 1-1-0 Beat Utica with backup Jones, Loss to Hobart 2-5 in the Cooler
              2 Williams 6-0-1 ? Awaiting….
              3 SNC 11-2-0 IDLE Idle
              4 Bowdoin 6-1-0 2-0-0 Beat Colby twice, 1 home 1 away
              5 Norwich 5-2-1 1-1-0 Beat up on St.Mikes 8-1, then loss to Castleton
              6 Gustavus 9-3-1 2-0-0 Got two wins over 1 win Finlandia
              7 Adrian 8-2-0 IDLE Idle
              8 Manhatanville 7-3-2 2-0-0 Gave the Bears hope Friday night, then buried them Saturday 8-0
              9 Geneseo 8-3-2 IDLE Idle
              10 Neumann 7-3-1 1-0-0 Barely got by 1 win Brockport 5-3
              11 Hamline 6-3-1 IDLE Idle
              12 MSOE 9-1-0 1-1-0 Split with St.Thomas
              13 Utica 9-4-0 1-1-0 Loss at #1 Oswego, Beat Buff State 3-2
              14 Amherst 4-2-1 1-0-0 8-0 win over Salve Regina High School
              15 Plattsburgh 7-4-0 1-0-0 4-1 win over Skidmore, 2nd longest win streak in DIII behind only Williams and Plymouth State
              16 Castleton 6-2-0 2-0 Barely got by Skidmore, beat Norwich..their other 4 wins…Saint As, Becker, NEC, and Brockport
              17 Elmira 7-5-2 1-0 Win over Cortland, getting better
              18 St.Thomas 8-5-0 1-1 Split with #12 MSOE
              19 UWEC 8-5-0 1-1 Split with UWSP
              20 UWS 8-4-1 1-1-1 Win over CSS, Loss to CSS, Tie with Lawrence
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              • #8
                Re: New Poll Predictions for 12/13

                Originally posted by PrezdeJohnson09 View Post
                Elmira is not ranked. Unfortunately what we all "think" and what the pollsters actually come out with doesn't oftentimes line up. Just the way it is. Remember, this is a poll prediction of how it shakes out and not how I would rank the teams.
                They were when we played them. The following week they were #6.
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                • #9
                  Re: New Poll Predictions for 12/13

                  Originally posted by UCBadger View Post
                  They were when we played them. The following week they were #6.
                  But you lost, 6-0, so you weren't even close in that game. Yes, Utica has improved making this year even tougher in the ECAC-W
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                  • #10
                    Re: New Poll Predictions for 12/13

                    Utica is a dam good team...ask Oswego !!!
                    It all starts with the goaltending.

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                    • #11
                      Re: New Poll Predictions for 12/13

                      Originally posted by PrezdeJohnson09 View Post
                      Remember, this is a poll prediction of how it shakes out and not how I would rank the teams.
                      If that's the case, I doubt Amherst's win over Salve Regina would displace both Wis-EauClaire & Wis-Superior.

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                      • #12
                        Re: New Poll Predictions for 12/13

                        Originally posted by NorthernLite View Post
                        If that's the case, I doubt Amherst's win over Salve Regina would displace both Wis-EauClaire & Wis-Superior.
                        Didn't both of those teams lose games?

                        Amherst was just barely out of the poll last week and they won. The two teams in front of them lost. Castleton gets in and I think Amherst slides in to. Amherst might actually be #15 and Castleton #14.
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                        • #13
                          Re: New Poll Predictions for 12/13

                          Originally posted by sshablak View Post
                          Utica is a dam good team...ask Oswego !!!
                          Must mean un-ranked Elmira is a great team since they spanked Utica 6-0
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                          • #14
                            Re: New Poll Predictions for 12/13

                            Originally posted by PrezdeJohnson09 View Post
                            Didn't both of those teams lose games?

                            Amherst was just barely out of the poll last week and they won. The two teams in front of them lost. Castleton gets in and I think Amherst slides in to. Amherst might actually be #15 and Castleton #14.
                            Call it a homer opinion, but...

                            Castleton beat the #3 team in the nation in OT, and beat an unranked opponent in OT.
                            In the same week, Plattsburgh beat that same unranked opponent 4-1, along with another 4-1 W. Plattsburgh has also beaten that same ranked opponent by 1 goal.

                            Plattsburgh is currently riding the second-longest unbeaten streak in DIII, behind 7-0-1 Williams

                            Last week, Plattsburgh received 22 votes and was second out of the poll
                            Last week, Castleton received 5 votes and was well out of the top 15.

                            According to the DIII KRACH page, Plattsburgh has the slightly stronger SOS (the PWC page shows Plattsburgh leading in both OWP and OOP categories). Castleton does lead in Win% and Win Ratio, partly due to 3 fewer games (after excluding the 1 DII opponent).

                            Also, neither team has beaten a ranked opponent whose name wasn't Norwich.

                            So, if EITHER of them is going to slip into the top 15, would you mind telling me how Castleton so drastically leapfrogs Plattsburgh to take that spot?
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                            NEWHL Champ x5: 18, 19, 20, 22, 23
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                            NCAA DIII Runner-up x4-ish: 86, 90, 06, 08
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                            • #15
                              Re: New Poll Predictions for 12/13

                              Originally posted by PrezdeJohnson09 View Post
                              Didn't both of those teams lose games?

                              Amherst was just barely out of the poll last week and they won. The two teams in front of them lost. Castleton gets in and I think Amherst slides in to. Amherst might actually be #15 and Castleton #14.
                              With their weekend split, Eau Claire now have 6 victories over teams that are(*6,7,& 9) or were ranked in the USCHO Poll.
                              I doubt that there's another team that can make this claim and I'd be surprised if they dropped out of this week's Ranking.

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