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dggoddard
01-05-2011, 09:57 PM
Something STINKS in Buffalo, New York. WOW! What a COLOSSAL crapping of the crib by team Canada!
Let the recriminations and media finger pointing begin. Pass the popcorn.

vizoroo
01-05-2011, 10:16 PM
Some good news on the DU front.

Jesse Martin returned to Denver for the NMU series and started school on Monday. He only has to wear a cervical collar for a couple of more weeks. He will be a student assistant coach for the remainder of the season.

Jay Z, Drew Shore and Beau Bennett will all be back and playing in the MSUM series in 2 weekends.

You know it is simply unbelievable and miraculous that Jesse has progressed so much. WOW!

And in case you haven't read the USCHO story on the bronze medal winning game,


Thanks in large part to moving Shore to center the top line and score the turnaround goal, Team USA claimed two firsts in the World Juniors: a medal on home ice and a medal in a second straight tournament.


Read more: http://www.uscho.com/2011/01/05/line-shift-provides-needed-shake-up-carries-u-s-to-world-junior-bronze/#ixzz1ADyiQ6kj

BTW, Quentin Shore scored a goal and will be bringing home a silver from the U17 tournament. Now he just needs to commit to DU.

co14ers
01-05-2011, 11:23 PM
Let the recriminations and media finger pointing begin. Pass the popcorn.

Ya know, to me, the arrogant jersey grab of his Canadian logo in front of the camera when Schenn scored Canada's third goal provided the fire for Ivan. I've always subscribed to my own saying, "those who pop off lose". Proven time and time again, ones that dismiss their opponents, at least at a championship level, then to lose A LOT. Although I would never cheer for Ivan since I was trained to kill him when I was in the US Army, I must admit a bit of satisfaction in seeing some of those Canadian sods in an extremely bummed out state.

dggoddard
01-06-2011, 05:51 AM
Ya know, to me, the arrogant jersey grab of his Canadian logo in front of the camera when Schenn scored Canada's third goal provided the fire for Ivan.
The Russians were having a good old time popping their jerseys after the game, so you're right they all saw Shenn do it.

The three games (USA-Canada, Canada-Russia & Sweden-Russia) were three of the most spectacular games I've seen in a long time. The skill, speed & heart displayed by the four teams were amazing.

co14ers
01-06-2011, 09:24 AM
Let the recriminations and media finger pointing begin. Pass the popcorn.

Nope, didn't take long at all as evidenced by this article in the Toronto Star: http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/juniorhockey/article/916914--cox-a-major-meltdown-for-team-canada?bn=1

SoCalSiouxFan
01-06-2011, 03:13 PM
http://www.uscho.com/2011/01/03/wrenn-bolts-denver-for-whls-winterhawks


"William has decided to leave our varsity hockey program and concentrate full-time on his hockey career,” DU head coach George Gwozdecky said in a statement. “William feels he will have a better opportunity to play on a regular basis and contribute in a more important role at the junior hockey level. He was a good teammate and was well liked in our locker room. William will be missed by our program.”
When I read this my BS gauge went off the scale. Sounds more like he just had difficulty concentraiting on school work.:rolleyes::p

du78
01-06-2011, 04:18 PM
http://www.uscho.com/2011/01/03/wrenn-bolts-denver-for-whls-winterhawks


When I read this my BS gauge went off the scale. Sounds more like he just had difficulty concentraiting on school work.:rolleyes::p

If he had been academically ineligible, he would not have been able to play in any of DU's December/Jan. 1 games as school ended before Thanksgiving and the grades were posted within days. In the few times in the past, DU has immediately declared a player academically ineligible as soon as the grades are posted. Current and future playing time was the issue not academics. He was the 7th d-man and with only 1 player graduating and two top notch d-men coming in next year he saw the handwriting on the wall. He came to DU with lots of potential but primarily hip and groin injuries set him back significantly. He had hip surgery after last season and had ongoing groin injuries this year. Tough to compete at this high level when you can't go all out due to injuries. I hope the best for him.

Puck Swami
01-06-2011, 04:23 PM
http://www.uscho.com/2011/01/03/wrenn-bolts-denver-for-whls-winterhawks


When I read this my BS gauge went off the scale. Sounds more like he just had difficulty concentraiting on school work.:rolleyes::p

Wrenn's BS or Gwoz' BS? Not sure to which you are referring.....

Wrenn is an WCHA all-academic student, and the the fact that he played last weekend means there is likely no academic issue, given final exams were in November and grades were posted in December. His problem with DU, as Gowz pointed out, was lack of playing time, which drives some drafted guys to drastic measures. Wrenn was beaten out of the d corps rotation by a string of injuires and two recruited walk ons, who took advantage of his absence to secure spots above him. Wrenn was a nice kid, but his injuries stalled his development and he just wasn't going to crack the top 6 DU lineup anytime soon, let alone play on the PP. He left the team so he could get a chance for regular playing time elsewhere. The reality is if you can't crack the DU lineup by your second year, and you can't crack the US junior final selection camp (top 29-30), your NHL chances are likely fading fast. So William followed the footsteps of two other second round pick defensemen (TJ Fast and Keith Seabrook) and headed to the WHL. Neither Fast nor Seabrook have ever played an NHL minute, and Fast is now in the ECHL and Seabrook is in the AHL.

All three guys, I think, over-estimated their abilties and would have been better served by getting their degrees, and then playing in the minors. Sure, you might sign for $200,000 but your are also throwing away a base $200,000 scholarship, and more then if you put a monetary value on the DU hockey experience.

SoCalSiouxFan
01-06-2011, 05:19 PM
Wrenn's BS or Gwoz' BS? Not sure to which you are referring.....

Wrenn is an WCHA all-academic student, ....lack of playing time...injuries stalled his development ...chance for regular playing time elsewhere.

Sorry. Thanks for clarifying the facts. Without all the facts the article was a bit misleading. Sounded like he just wanted to get away fron school work, but obviously that is not the whole story. Hopefully he can recover fully from his injuries without having adverse long term effects that would be a major obsticle to his ambitions. One can only hope that he can be successful.

Puck Swami
01-06-2011, 10:13 PM
Pioneer hoops wins a huge game at Western Kentucky tonight - WKU is the most decorated program in the Sun Belt with 22 NCAA appearances including a Sweet 16 run in 2008, and the Pioneers have never won there before, although they have beaten WKU at Magness.

The Pioneers have now won 5 straight games, and go to 3-0 in Sun Belt play.

vizoroo
01-06-2011, 11:17 PM
Bozak has winning goal in the shootout for 6-5 Leafs win over the Blues.

Old Pio
01-07-2011, 12:07 AM
Bozak has winning goal in the shootout for 6-5 Leafs win over the Blues.

BTW, just read the Russian kids were drinking Crown Royal. That explains a lot.

SJHovey
01-07-2011, 08:26 AM
Wrenn's BS or Gwoz' BS? Not sure to which you are referring.....

Wrenn is an WCHA all-academic student, and the the fact that he played last weekend means there is likely no academic issue, given final exams were in November and grades were posted in December. His problem with DU, as Gowz pointed out, was lack of playing time, which drives some drafted guys to drastic measures. Wrenn was beaten out of the d corps rotation by a string of injuires and two recruited walk ons, who took advantage of his absence to secure spots above him. Wrenn was a nice kid, but his injuries stalled his development and he just wasn't going to crack the top 6 DU lineup anytime soon, let alone play on the PP. He left the team so he could get a chance for regular playing time elsewhere. The reality is if you can't crack the DU lineup by your second year, and you can't crack the US junior final selection camp (top 29-30), your NHL chances are likely fading fast. So William followed the footsteps of two other second round pick defensemen (TJ Fast and Keith Seabrook) and headed to the WHL. Neither Fast nor Seabrook have ever played an NHL minute, and Fast is now in the ECHL and Seabrook is in the AHL.

All three guys, I think, over-estimated their abilties and would have been better served by getting their degrees, and then playing in the minors. Sure, you might sign for $200,000 but your are also throwing away a base $200,000 scholarship, and more then if you put a monetary value on the DU hockey experience.

USCHO has Wrenn in the lineup for every game going all the way back to the BC series. Are they wrong about that?

du78
01-07-2011, 09:00 AM
USCHO has Wrenn in the lineup for every game going all the way back to the BC series. Are they wrong about that?

No but for most of them he was dressed as the 7th d-man who got minimal ice time. When he did play he was a step slower than everyone else and his -7 is testament to that for a team which is +60. As noted he has been battling injuries since he came to DU and no one knows if he was ever at 100% this year. His main issue this year was a strained groin which really doesn't heal without complete rest. He did miss 4 games due to that injury. Who knows what percentage his hip is at. It took A-Rod a whole year until he was 100% from his hip injury after surgery which was similar. During his return from hip surgery, A-Rod was given plenty of days off and DH'd a lot. He didn't have to skate like hockey players do. You have to give Wrenn credit for battling through the injuries and trying to continue to play. Have to give Gwoz credit as he tried to get him going by dressing 7 d-men most nights and rotating him in the d-man line-up. Gwoz could have easily sat him in the press box but didn't. I wish William well as I understand he is a great kid. It is too bad that it didn't work out for him as I expected him to be a top 4 d-man when he came to DU.

du78
01-07-2011, 09:05 AM
BTW, just read the Russian kids were drinking Crown Royal. That explains a lot.

I hope there is no temporary shortage of this product due to this incident for your sake. :D:rolleyes:;)

dggoddard
01-07-2011, 09:55 AM
USCHO has Wrenn in the lineup for every game going all the way back to the BC series. Are they wrong about that?DU dressed 7 D-men and 11 forwards every game this season unless a D-man was hurt. Factor in that Donovan gets lots of ice time and Makowski has established himself as an exceptional power play specialist and the minutes start drying up.

co14ers
01-07-2011, 11:12 AM
So, no DU hockey this weekend. Upon looking at the schedule, I found myself frowning as our next series is at the "House of Horrors" in Mankato. Can we just call it a split and not play those games there? :p

Puck Swami
01-07-2011, 11:19 AM
USCHO has Wrenn in the lineup for every game going all the way back to the BC series. Are they wrong about that?

In the lineup and dressed, but rarely saw much ice time - maybe a shift or two per period on average.

Old Pio
01-07-2011, 01:05 PM
I hope there is no temporary shortage of this product due to this incident for your sake. :D:rolleyes:;)

Not to worry. I have a 500 gallon tank under the patio.

du78
01-07-2011, 01:11 PM
Not to worry. I have a 500 gallon tank under the patio.

Have you gotten the back-up ice maker? I thought we were going to have to call EMS when your ice maker broke earlier this season. :D