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Priceless
02-05-2011, 04:12 PM
I guess we'll find out how they break ties between two teams if this holds up.

If that's the case, I would switch the Denver/Notre Dame game with UND/BU. Notre Dame is one of the few schools that can bus to St. Louis, and give it a chance at having a "name" team.

I doubt this will hold up. It never has before :p

Fighting Sioux 23
02-05-2011, 04:31 PM
I doubt this will hold up. It never has before :p

Very true. It would be nice if it did though.

Priceless
02-05-2011, 05:36 PM
I was just playing around at SiouxSports (because I clearly have no life) and noticed they still have the 10-game requirement for TUCs. That criteria no longer exists.

burgie12
02-05-2011, 05:40 PM
I was just playing around at SiouxSports (because I clearly have no life) and noticed they still have the 10-game requirement for TUCs. That criteria no longer exists.
Jason Moy's second-most recent post in the Bracketology Blog. (http://www.uscho.com/bracketology/2011/02/01/explaining-a-subtle-change-to-the-pairwise/)

Fast-forward to this week, when this season’s handbook appeared. Well, the 10-games language is back.

Priceless
02-05-2011, 05:50 PM
Jason Moy's second-most recent post in the Bracketology Blog. (http://www.uscho.com/bracketology/2011/02/01/explaining-a-subtle-change-to-the-pairwise/)

I just love how the committee tweaks criteria like this in the middle of a season.

So much for transparency.

IrishHockeyFan
02-05-2011, 05:52 PM
I guess we'll find out how they break ties between two teams if this holds up.

If that's the case, I would switch the Denver/Notre Dame game with UND/BU. Notre Dame is one of the few schools that can bus to St. Louis, and give it a chance at having a "name" team.

Except that that "name" team could barely draw 2000 people to the Sears Centre for their own tournament, and no one had to scramble to make arrangements. Granted, an in season tourney isn't the same as the NCAAs, but I think St. Louis is going to have a problem with attendance almost no matter who is slotted there.

Priceless
02-05-2011, 06:03 PM
Except that that "name" team could barely draw 2000 people to the Sears Centre for their own tournament, and no one had to scramble to make arrangements. Granted, an in season tourney isn't the same as the NCAAs, but I think St. Louis is going to have a problem with attendance almost no matter who is slotted there.

Unless the NCAA makes the Blues a host school, there are going to be about 16,000 empty seats. That's going to look awesome on TV.

Fighting Sioux 23
02-05-2011, 06:59 PM
Except that that "name" team could barely draw 2000 people to the Sears Centre for their own tournament, and no one had to scramble to make arrangements. Granted, an in season tourney isn't the same as the NCAAs, but I think St. Louis is going to have a problem with attendance almost no matter who is slotted there.

I completely agree. St Louis is going to struggle. Saying that, it needs any and all help it can get. Notre Dame would draw more interest than say Western Michigan. Plus, it's a bus trip, and saves the NCAA a flight.

Perhaps if there are 16k+ empty seats, the NCAA will give more thought to on-campus first round series.

J.D.
02-05-2011, 08:05 PM
I just love how the committee tweaks criteria like this in the middle of a season.

So much for transparency.

I was under the impression the tweaks were done prior to the season but they just didn't release the handbook till mid season

J.D.
02-05-2011, 08:08 PM
Really, st. Louis needs und at the very least along with a uno and michigan

burgie12
02-05-2011, 08:14 PM
I was under the impression the tweaks were done prior to the season but they just didn't release the handbook till mid season
Don't let facts get in the way of his rambling, unwarranted anger.

Fighting Sioux 23
02-05-2011, 10:58 PM
Really, st. Louis needs und at the very least along with a uno and michigan

While I think UND would probably draw the best out of the current #1 seeds in St. Louis, I don't think they'd bring a ton of fans. The only way, IMO, that St Louis gets a decent turnout is if 2 out of Notre Dame, Michigan and Miami make the field and are placed in St. Louis.

bronconick
02-05-2011, 11:45 PM
St. Louis is going to have to offer free tickets to anyone walking by on the street to make it look something other than empty.

redwings8831
02-06-2011, 12:41 AM
Through tonights games:

1. Yale (EC) - 29
2. Boston College (HE) - 26
3. Minnesota-Duluth (WC) - 26
4. New Hampshire (HE) - 26
5. North Dakota (WC) - 26
6. Denver (WC) - 25
7. Rensselaer (EC) - 21
8. Wisconsin (WC) - 21
9. Union (EC) - 20
10. Merrimack (HE) - 20
11. Notre Dame (CC) - 18
12. Michigan (CC) - 18
13. Western Michigan (CC) - 18
14. Boston University (HE) - 17
15. Nebraska-Omaha (WC) - 16
16. Atlantic Hockey Champ (AH)

-----------------

Bridgeport:
1. Yale (EC)
8. Wisconsin (WC)
9. Union (EC)
14. Boston University (HE)

St. Louis:
2. Boston College (HE)
5. North Dakota (WC)
12. Michigan (CC)
15. Nebraska-Omaha (WC)

Green Bay:
3. Minnesota-Duluth (WC)
6. Denver (WC)
11. Notre Dame (CC)
13. Western Michigan (CC)

Manchester:
4. New Hampshire (HE)
7. Rensselaer (EC)
10. Merrimack (HE)
16. Atlantic Hockey Champ (AH)

1 seeds: #1 Yale (Bridgeport Host), #4 New Hampshire (Manchester Host), #3 Duluth within driving to Green Bay, leaves #2 BC for St. Louis.

2/3 seeds: Switched the 7/10 and 5/12 matchups to help with attendance.

4 seeds: #13 Western Michigan within driving to Green Bay, kept the #15 UNO for in St Louis for attendance. Switched #14 BU and #16 AHA Champ to avoid Hockey East first round matchup in Manchester.

J.D.
02-06-2011, 06:44 AM
If the season ended like it is now, attendance would be pretty good in each regional (and the best possible scenario for St. Louis really):

East:

1. Yale
2. RPI
3. Merrimack
4. RIT

Northeast:

1. Boston College
2. New Hampshire
3. Notre Dame
4. Nebraska-Omaha

Midwest:

1. Minnesota-Duluth
2. Wisconsin
3. Union
4. Western Michigan

West:

1. North Dakota
2. Denver
3. Michigan
4. Boston University

du78
02-07-2011, 09:57 AM
If the season ended like it is now, attendance would be pretty good in each regional (and the best possible scenario for St. Louis really):

East:

1. Yale
2. RPI
3. Merrimack
4. RIT

Northeast:

1. Boston College
2. New Hampshire
3. Notre Dame
4. Nebraska-Omaha

Midwest:

1. Minnesota-Duluth
2. Wisconsin
3. Union
4. Western Michigan

West:

1. North Dakota
2. Denver
3. Michigan
4. Boston University

28 NCAA Titles in the West bracket

FlagDUDE08
02-07-2011, 10:20 AM
28 NCAA Titles in the West bracket

w00t, two titles in the East bracket! :D

UnionHockeyManiac
02-07-2011, 10:29 AM
If the season ended like it is now, attendance would be pretty good in each regional (and the best possible scenario for St. Louis really):

East:

1. Yale
2. RPI
3. Merrimack
4. RIT

Northeast:

1. Boston College
2. New Hampshire
3. Notre Dame
4. Nebraska-Omaha

Midwest:

1. Minnesota-Duluth
2. Wisconsin
3. Union
4. Western Michigan

West:

1. North Dakota
2. Denver
3. Michigan
4. Boston University


I'm new at this, so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but why wouldn't Union and Notre Dame be switched here?

FlagDUDE08
02-07-2011, 10:34 AM
I'm new at this, so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but why wouldn't Union and Notre Dame be switched here?

Given the information we find on TBRW, my best guess would be that bracket integrity is being kept, and there's a thinking that Union wouldn't have a big enough travelling fan base to warrant moving them to an eastern site.

Slasher7
02-07-2011, 10:36 AM
Given the information we find on TBRW, my best guess would be that bracket integrity is being kept, and there's a thinking that Union wouldn't have a big enough travelling fan base to warrant moving them to an eastern site.

Isn't Union in NY???