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Eaglefan06
02-12-2011, 11:16 AM
Looks like Mankato will win...5-1 midway through the 3rd.


1 Yale (EC) 29 0.5811
2 Boston Coll (HE) 28 0.5821
3 North Dakota (WC) 26 0.5778
4 Denver U (WC) 25 0.5749
5 Minn-Duluth (WC) 25 0.5692
6 Merrimack (HE) 24 0.5554
7 Union (EC) 22 0.5594
8 New Hampshire (HE) 22 0.5575
9 RPI (EC) 22 0.5469
10 Notre Dame (CC) 19 0.5496
11 Wisconsin (WC) 19 0.5473
12 NE-Omaha (WC) 18 0.5414
13 Michigan (CC) 18 0.5469
14 Dartmouth (EC) 15 0.5433
15 Miami (CC) 15 0.5415
16 Western Mich (CC) 15 0.5401
17 Boston Univ (HE) 14 0.5402
18 CO College (WC) 11 0.5266
19 Princeton (EC) 11 0.5223
20 Ferris State (CC) 10 0.5150
21 MSU-Mankato (WC) 9 0.5162
22 Maine (HE) 8 0.5182
23 AK-Fairbanks (CC) 8 0.5149
24 Minnesota (WC) 6 0.5138
25 St Cloud (WC) 5 0.5051
26 AK-Anchorage (WC) 4 0.5064
27 Ohio State (CC) 3 0.5030
28 RIT (AH) 2 0.5027
29 Robert Morris (AH) 2 0.5043
30 Cornell (EC) 0 0.5013


Natural brackets:


Bridgeport Manchester St Louis Green Bay
Yale BC North Dakota Denver
UNH Union Merrimack UMD
RPI Notre Dame Wisconsin UNO
AHA Champ Miami Dartmouth Michigan

Accounting for hosts, intra-conference games and attendance


Bridgeport Manchester St Louis Green Bay
Yale BC North Dakota Denver
Union UNH UMD Merrimack
UNO RPI Notre Dame Wisconsin
AHA Champ Miami Dartmouth Michigan

Dartmouth can be swapped with Miami or Michigan to reduce flights/improve attendance (allegedly) in St. Louis.

Wow, BC topped Yale in the RPI rankings. Nice.

Eaglefan06
02-12-2011, 11:17 AM
1. Yale (EC) - 29
2. Boston College (HE) - 28
3. North Dakota (WC) - 26
4. Denver (WC) - 25
5. Minnesota-Duluth (WC) - 25
6. Merrimack (HE) - 24
7. Union (EC) - 22
8. New Hampshire (HE) - 22
9. Rensselaer (EC) - 22
10. Notre Dame (CC) - 19
11. Wisconsin (WC) - 19
12. Nebraska-Omaha (WC) - 18
13. Michigan (CC) - 18
14. Dartmouth (EC) - 15
15. Miami (CC) - 15
16. Atlantic Hockey Champ (AH)

----------------------------

Bridgeport:
1. Yale (EC)
7. Union (EC)
12. Nebraska-Omaha (WC)
16. Atlantic Hockey Champ (AH)

Manchester:
2. Boston College (HE)
8. New Hampshire (HE)
9. Rensselaer (EC)
14. Dartmouth (EC)

St. Louis:
3. North Dakota (WC)
6. Merrimack (HE)
11. Wisconsin (WC)
15. Miami (CC)

Green Bay:
4. Denver (WC)
5. Minnesota-Duluth (WC)
10. Notre Dame (CC)
13. Michigan (CC)

I am really sure BC would be very happy with that region. :D

Priceless
02-12-2011, 03:42 PM
An RPI win tonight will remove Cornell from TUC and might knock Yale out of the top spot (at least temporarily). The Bulldogs will drop to 9 games vs TUC and without that criteria they start losing comparisons. With a loss they can fall as far as 4th.

However, depending on the outcome of other games, Yale could lose tonight and still remain #1 as Clarkson moves up to ~.5003 and becomes a TUC with a win. That would give Yale 10 games vs TUC and flip all those comparisons back.

Simple math, indeed. ;)

komey1
02-12-2011, 03:47 PM
Just win baby.

Priceless
02-12-2011, 08:48 PM
If St. Cloud beats Duluth (they are winning 3-2) then Merrimack is a 1 seed.

The Apocalypse is upon us.

Priceless
02-12-2011, 10:39 PM
The end is nigh!


1 Yale (EC)
2 Boston Coll (HE)
3 North Dakota (WC)
4 Merrimack (HE)
5 Denver U (WC)
6 Minn-Duluth (WC)
7 Union (EC)
8 NE-Omaha (WC)
9 New Hampshire (HE)
10 Michigan (CC)
11 Miami (CC)
12 Notre Dame (CC)
13 Dartmouth (EC)
14 RPI (EC)
15 Wisconsin (WC)
16 Western Mich (CC)
17 Boston Univ (HE)
18 CO College (WC)
19 Maine (HE)
20 Minnesota (WC)
21 Ferris State (CC)
22 Princeton (EC)
23 MSU-Mankato (WC)
24 AK-Fairbanks (CC)
25 St Cloud (WC)
26 Cornell (EC)
27 RIT (AH)
28 Robert Morris (AH)
29 AK-Anchorage (WC)


Brackets:


Bridgeport Manchester St Louis Green Bay
Yale BC North Dakota Merrimack
Union UNO UMD Denver
Miami UNH Michigan Notre Dame
AHA Champ RPI Dartmouth Wisconsin


SiouxSports will be different because they break head to head ties by RPI, TBRW breaks them by comparison. Therefore, they will have Denver #4 and Merrimack #5. The NCAA has never made it clear how they break ties between two teams when the RPI and comparisons conflict (and it's never happened before).

Dartmouth and RPI are interchangeable in this bracket.

redwings8831
02-12-2011, 10:57 PM
1. Yale (EC) - 29
2. Boston College (HE) - 27
3. North Dakota (WC) - 25
4. Denver (WC) - 24
5. Merrimack (HE) - 24
6. Minnesota-Duluth (WC) - 22
7. Union (EC) - 20
8. Nebraska-Omaha (WC) - 20
9. New Hampshire (HE) - 29
10. Michigan (CC) - 19
11. Miami (CC) - 19
12. Notre Dame (CC) - 18
13. Dartmouth (EC) - 18
14. Rensselaer (EC) - 17
15. Wisconsin (WC) - 15
16. Atlantic Hockey Champ (AH)

----------------------------

Bridgeport:
1. Yale (EC)
5. Merrimack (HE)
10. Michigan (CC)
16. Atlantic Hockey Champ (AH)

Manchester:
2. Boston College (HE)
7. Union (EC)
9. New Hampshire (HE)
15. Wisconsin (WC)

St. Louis:
3. North Dakota (WC)
8. Nebraska-Omaha (WC)
11. Miami (CC)
14. Rensselaer (EC)

Green Bay:
4. Denver (WC)
6. Minnesota-Duluth (WC)
12. Notre Dame (CC)
13. Dartmouth (EC)

Ties broken by RPI. Not ideal with Wisconsin going east, but with North Dakota and Denver occupying #1's out west, nothing you could really do. If AHA champ is Air Force, send them to St. Louis, Wisconsin to Bridgeport, and Rensselaer to Manchester.

Priceless
02-12-2011, 11:08 PM
Ties broken by RPI. Not ideal with Wisconsin going east, but with North Dakota and Denver occupying #1's out west, nothing you could really do.

Technically, since the WCHA would get 5 teams in, the committee could keep Wisconsin west for an intra-conference game. That would be a blatant money grab.

redwings8831
02-12-2011, 11:13 PM
Technically, since the WCHA would get 5 teams in, the committee could keep Wisconsin west for an intra-conference game. That would be a blatant money grab.

For some reason, I thought it was one conference getting 6 teams in before that could occur (or if there was no way to prevent it from happening).

Priceless
02-12-2011, 11:18 PM
For some reason, I thought it was one conference getting 6 teams in before that could occur (or if there was no way to prevent it from happening).

The precedent is to make the switch to avoid such a game even with five teams (2003) but the rule says they can do it.

Onion Man
02-13-2011, 05:30 AM
I still dont see how Wisconsin doesn't end up in Green Bay for attendance purposes, but if they end up a 4, I guess the NCAA would have no choice to send them east if DU and UND hold the 1s.

Priceless
02-13-2011, 10:40 AM
The TUC line



St Cloud 0.5081
Cornell 0.5081
RIT 0.5071
Robert Morris 0.5041
AK-Anchorage 0.5032
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Bemidji State 0.4999
Northern Mich 0.4998
Ohio State 0.4992
Quinnipiac 0.4985
Lake Superior 0.4979
Brown 0.4936
Mich State 0.4930
Niagara 0.4917
Clarkson 0.4915


4 teams from the CCHA and 3 from the ECAC are within shouting distance of becoming TUC. Hockey East doesn't have a single team on either side of the line. Northeastern is almost .015 points away.

mookie1995
02-13-2011, 11:00 AM
The TUC line.

you can increase that NU number with their upcoming defeat on Monday..

J.D.
02-13-2011, 11:28 PM
I still dont see how Wisconsin doesn't end up in Green Bay for attendance purposes, but if they end up a 4, I guess the NCAA would have no choice to send them east if DU and UND hold the 1s.

Given that I still haven't seen a definitive word on what actually breaks a tie between two teams, for the sake of this argument, I gave Merrimack the #1 seed over Denver and came up with endless possibilities. Focusing strictly on maximizing attendance and of course avoiding intra-conference matchups in the first round, I was able to come up with:

East:

1. Yale (1)
2. Union (7)
3. Notre Dame (12)
4. RIT (16)

Northeast:

1. Boston College (2)
2. Denver (5)
3. New Hampshire (9)
4. Dartmouth (13)

Midwest:

1. Merrimack (4)
2. Minnesota-Duluth (6)
3. Michigan (10)
4. Wisconsin (15)

West:

1. North Dakota (3)
2. Nebraska-Omaha (8)
3. Miami (11)
4. RPI (14)

MinnesotaNorthStar
02-13-2011, 11:50 PM
Technically, since the WCHA would get 5 teams in, the committee could keep Wisconsin west for an intra-conference game. That would be a blatant money grab.
They'd send Denver out East...

Priceless
02-14-2011, 08:21 AM
They'd send Denver out East...

That would mean making BC get on a plane even though they're the #2 overall seed. Not to mention the cost of an extra flight. How much does it cost now for the NCAA for the plane?

redwings8831
02-14-2011, 01:37 PM
Given that I still haven't seen a definitive word on what actually breaks a tie between two teams, for the sake of this argument, I gave Merrimack the #1 seed over Denver and came up with endless possibilities. Focusing strictly on maximizing attendance and of course avoiding intra-conference matchups in the first round, I was able to come up with:

East:

1. Yale (1)
2. Union (7)
3. Notre Dame (12)
4. RIT (16)

Northeast:

1. Boston College (2)
2. Denver (5)
3. New Hampshire (9)
4. Dartmouth (13)

Midwest:

1. Merrimack (4)
2. Minnesota-Duluth (6)
3. Michigan (10)
4. Wisconsin (15)

West:

1. North Dakota (3)
2. Nebraska-Omaha (8)
3. Miami (11)
4. RPI (14)

Switch Michigan and Notre Dame and I agree. ND can bus to Green Bay.

Priceless
02-14-2011, 02:30 PM
I have asked the NCAA to clarify the tie-breaking procedures in the event the overall comparison and the RPI don't agree (as with Merrimack and Denver). I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer.

Priceless
02-14-2011, 06:48 PM
That sound you heard was the NCAA thanking Harvard for keeping Wi$conSin in the tournament.

Priceless
02-14-2011, 09:16 PM
If BC wins, the Pairwise remains unchanged. If Northeastern wins, NoDak and BC flip flop. If that happens, the NCAA might swap UMD and UNO in my brackets, but no other changes.



Bridgeport Manchester St Louis Green Bay
Yale BC North Dakota Merrimack
Union UMD UNO Denver
Miami UNH Michigan Notre Dame
AHA Champ RPI Dartmouth Wisconsin