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The Rube
11-06-2010, 02:47 PM
Does anyone know if there is a way to get a live stream from BTN tonight?

I have a friend of a friend whose uncle's sister in law who says that if you search "free live streaming (insert event)" on Google search, you should be able to find just about anything. This includes stuff like PPV events. Just what I heard. ;)

solovsfett
11-06-2010, 03:08 PM
wow...

I've been to a lot of gopher games at the mooch and that game flat out depressed me and I'm not even a gopher fan. 5 minutes in I knew the badgers would win. The defense was horrible. Atmosphere was horrible...fans were leaving halfway through the second. Quite a few empty seats...for the badgers?! Come on! Passing was horrible. I credit wisconsin for losing a ton of talent off of last year's team and remaining relevant. Eaves can coach. I'm convinced the problem right now is not with the talent on the team but the leadership at the top. Who were lucia's assistants at CC and alaska? I'm now thinking that his success had more to do with them than his abilities. There is no ying and yang with those coaches. Hill and lucia are clones and it's not working. It's going to be hard for me to go to sleep after that nightmare.


I don't remeber who Lucia's assistants were at CC, but I think that really says something. Generally I tend to remember those things but it was more like Blaiser at Nodak where you knew the success was 100% from the guy at the top.

I guess I'm not qualified to comment on Lucia more than to say he impressed the hell out of me at CC, won 2 NCAA championships already (should have been 3 w/1 at cc vs mich that was there's to win) at mn, but something is wrong and I'm not a rat fan so I generally only see the games when they play UW or Nodak and cannot deduce more than what I can see in 4 - 6 games per year.

What I saw last night from UW and UMN was telling.

UW - Coach Eaves has an excellent system (for lack of a better word) and work ethic in place. It seems now that the coaching changes at assistant positions have had little effect on his methods, and little effect on his team. The kids have thoroughly surprised me now through 9 games at 6-2-1 and the frosh are playing well, even the frosh d (well Faust did have one terrrible giveaway last night). They've gone from a methodical trapping team to now a more open run n' gun style of play and this season in particular Coach Eaves has changed his power play and offensive scheme's a bit as they don't at all resemble the 03, through 09 seasons. much more creative now. It actually reminds me quite a bit of how CC played offense under Lucia in 95. watch those trailers, what the back door or you you're team will get buried.

UMN - They were beaten to loose pucks in the offensive zone, and beaten badly at times on the walls in their defensive zone, + their d-zone coverage looked out of synch. I don't know what that says of Lucia, I don't recall his teams at CC playing like that at all, and definitely not his early gopher (er rat) teams. I think it's possible his assistants have let him down on that. I don't know what advantage Hill gives Lucia. I don't know what advantage the 3rd guy gives him. If he's hired one or 2 guys over the years to try and influence their kid to come to UMN that's a HUGE mistake.

the gopher posters are right in that it's perfectly fine if your team goes down swinging once in a while, but this gopher team I saw last night barely put up a fight. It almost felt anti-climactic to have my favorite team wipe them out 6-0. I know they're short-handed but that's still not that big of an excuse. I've seen Pat White and Larson play and they wouldn't have changed things dramatically. bjugstad and budish would have helped but I don't know about changing the outcome.

my best analysis is the type of goals Wisconsin scored were all hard-hat, gritty, gutsy plays. It shows how much the players have bought into Eaves' coaching. To the extent they reflect on UMN is that the gophs weren't clearing guys out or didn't know who to cover. My thing is I don't know if that's a reflection of Lucia, Hill (or both), or the types of players they bring in. 4 games a year isn't enough for me to know

Gurtholfin
11-06-2010, 03:15 PM
You say "I'll be back?" I already said I refuse to leave the bandwagon. I can't come back if I never left.


When I said "you'll" I meant Minnesota as a solid program and the unjustified arrogance that their fans exhibit when the team is only competitive - not great.

The arrogance can't go away. You all think that you are the epicenter of hockey in the USA and a few down years can't erase that from your arrogant souls.

You'll be back and I'm enjoying the lull while it lasts.

Gurtholfin
11-06-2010, 03:16 PM
Hey, you guys watch any football today? ;):D:p

Gurtholfin
11-06-2010, 03:17 PM
paint thinner will do that.

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Skeeterman
11-06-2010, 05:16 PM
So, if Wisconsin wins this "real battle of interstate 94" will the speed limit be raised to 70, or kept at 65 so the troopers in Wisconsin will still have something to do?

ScoobyDoo
11-06-2010, 05:17 PM
When I said "you'll" I meant Minnesota as a solid program and the unjustified arrogance that their fans exhibit when the team is only competitive - not great.

The arrogance can't go away. You all think that you are the epicenter of hockey in the USA and a few down years can't erase that from your arrogant souls.

You'll be back and I'm enjoying the lull while it lasts.

And like I said. The football team was the epicenter of the world at one time as well. Wisconsin will never catch Minnesota in National Championships in football. Still, that changed and we're still waiting for it to come back 50~ years later.

Slap Shot
11-06-2010, 05:20 PM
Well it's good to know the hockey team has entered a 50 year abyss - now I won't have to watch them anymore.

solovsfett
11-06-2010, 09:55 PM
great game tonight. Craig Johnson and Tyler Barnes both had some eye popping moves but they didn't result in goals so it may as well have been practice.

hats off to UW for not giving up and hanging tough. Michael Mersch and Jordy Murray have to be two of the more hard-nosed players UW has had in years. Similar to Burish I suppose but w/more offensive talent.

I was happy to see Faust and Simonelli get important minutes in a rivalry game and Bennett get the nod in goal. He can't fault himself for any of those 3.

as for the rats. good game rats. you played significantly better than last night. patterson is a MUCH better goaltender than kangas kahn (don't know what happend to him)

Gurtholfin
11-06-2010, 09:57 PM
That tie is a loss for the Gophers.

Great weekend for Bucky although too bad we didn't compete in the first tonight.

Bakunin
11-06-2010, 10:03 PM
patterson is a MUCH better goaltender than kangas kahn (don't know what happend to him)
I don't agree with this. A more accurate statement is MN is a much better team in front of Patterson - they didn't give up the boatload of quality chances tonight that they did last night. With that said, a tie is completely unacceptable. MN had the lead and could not hold it. They are now 1-4-1 at home in WCHA games.

The obvious solution is to play Patterson from here on out due to how the team plays in front of him. Even if they do that (and I doubt they will), I don't have any expectations for this team - they are clearly heading for a middling finish yet again and no NCAA berth. This is completely unacceptable. With all the advantages this program has at its disposal, how can they *'ing have four straight years of mediocrity?

solovsfett
11-06-2010, 10:05 PM
I don't agree with this. A more accurate statement is MN is a much better team in front of Patterson - they didn't give up the boatload of quality chances tonight that they did last night. With that said, a tie is completely unacceptable. MN had the lead and could not hold it. They are now 1-4-1 at home in WCHA games.

The obvious solution is to play Patterson from here on out due to how the team plays in front of him. Even if they do that (and I doubt they will), I don't have any expectations for this team - they are clearly heading for a middling finish yet again and no NCAA berth. This is completely unacceptable. With all the advantages this program has at its disposal, how can they *'ing have four straight years of mediocrity?

for this one weekend I thought patterson played w/more rebound control, and wasn't as iffy on wraparound opps (those were significantly fewer than last night)

I'll cede to goph fans, I'm basing my opinion on the few games I see of the rats

The Rube
11-06-2010, 10:08 PM
I don't agree with this. A more accurate statement is MN is a much better team in front of Patterson - they didn't give up the boatload of quality chances tonight that they did last night. With that said, a tie is completely unacceptable. MN had the lead and could not hold it. They are now 1-4-1 at home in WCHA games.

The obvious solution is to play Patterson from here on out due to how the team plays in front of him. Even if they do that (and I doubt they will), I don't have any expectations for this team - they are clearly heading for a middling finish yet again and no NCAA berth. This is completely unacceptable. With all the advantages this program has at its disposal, how can they *'ing have four straight years of mediocrity?

This.

I'm happier than last night, but that's not saying anything.

WI took it to us. Until next time, Buck the Fadgers. That is all.

Driftryder
11-06-2010, 10:15 PM
Grats to Becky for taking 3pts out of Mariucci (I'll puke now) better game tonight by the Gophers I wish we could have played like that last night.

Grab some more thinner and a dead deer on your way back to cheddarland.

Bakunin
11-06-2010, 10:20 PM
for this one weekend I thought patterson played w/more rebound control, and wasn't as iffy on wraparound opps (those were significantly fewer than last night)

I'll cede to goph fans, I'm basing my opinion on the few games I see of the rats
The main difference between the two that I see (other than how the team plays in front of them) is that Patterson seems to be better at making the 1-2 key saves to keep the game tied or close. If stupid Helgeson didn't knock his stick away, MN wins tonight. :mad: But crap like that is what happens to mediocre teams, and they cannot overcome such mistakes.

MN will be somewhere around .500 at season's end just like they've been for the past three seasons. I'm sure we'll hear the "young team" excuse again, and we'll probably hear the injury line as well. As far as I'm concerned, the first one should only be used about once per four years (rebuilding). There is no way this coaching staff should remain in place after this likely mediocre season ends.

ScoobyDoo
11-06-2010, 10:22 PM
Everyone was right. 7-9th place if that.

Can't wait to enter the Big 10. Out of the 6 schools Minnesota will consistently be in about the 4 spot.

Gurtholfin
11-06-2010, 10:27 PM
Grats to Becky for taking 3pts out of Mariucci (I'll puke now) better game tonight by the Gophers I wish we could have played like that last night.

Grab some more thinner and a dead deer on your way back to cheddarland.

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Went out collecting this afternoon. All set, thanks! ;)

Stauber1
11-06-2010, 10:46 PM
That was a pretty entertaining game. Tonight was what I had expected to see both games this weekend; two halfway decent teams playing each other tough.

It's getting frustrating watching MN pick and choose when they want to make an effort. If they went out and fought for every game, they could probably squeak out an NCAA berth. But apparently they only want to do that half the time. The rest of the time they're content to just roll over.

dxmnkd316
11-06-2010, 11:35 PM
Everyone was right. 7-9th place if that.

Can't wait to enter the Big 10. Out of the 6 schools Minnesota will consistently be in about the 4 spot.

:rolleyes:

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11-06-2010, 11:35 PM
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